Official NNNNN.com Evauation Thread

DomainMagnate · 02-16-2008, 05:32 AM

All NNNNN.com's have been registered a couple hours ago and now is the time to start discussing their value.

First some general guidelines:

1. According to http://www.3character.com/priceguide.html:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/433115-official-nnnnn-com-evauation-thread.html
1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9 are considered premium numbers. Other lesser high quality numbers include: 4 and 6. Lower quality numbers include the number 0. Premium NNNNN's were registered first, then more than 10k 5N.com were remaining

2. Domains starting with 0 are considered lower quality, while domaings ending with 0 are more round and thus better.

3. Lower numbers are typically more valuable, due to higher amount of possibilities and potential uses

4. Repeating digits are good, most valuable will be the domains with many repeating numbers.

5. Numbers ending in “5″ or multiples of “25″ are a little bit better.

6. Numbers that have special meaning, like zip codes, words on mobile devices, area codes etc. represent higher value.

Post more tips below to compile a complete appraising guide!
Also feel free to post some special numbers for appraisal. not the regular random NNNNN's you've just registered, but something more valuable, like 63400, 12349, 77723..

Current min prices for NNNN.com are around $350-400

Feb 20: 4 days after the buyout the min NNNNN.com prices are now basing around $12-15

Check the latest NNNNN.com Price Guide for frequent updates.

gtss · 02-16-2008, 06:06 AM

Thank you

DomainName1 · 02-16-2008, 07:35 AM

Thanks for putting this thread together Michael! It will be interesting the see the pricing of the 1st aftermarket sales in this forum!

Langfhir · 02-16-2008, 08:11 AM

Allow me to offer the first number to be appraised:

61104

Zip Code for Rockford, Illinois, pop. 150,000

Link

DomainMagnate · 02-16-2008, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Langfhir

Allow me to offer the first number to be appraised:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=433115

61104

Zip Code for Rockford, Illinois, pop. 150,000

Link

I'm thinking around mid $XX now. US zip codes are among the best NNNNN's and since marchex have most of them they are quite rare

GF · 02-16-2008, 09:51 AM

92631.com - Fullerton, CA ZIP code

Yefim247 · 02-16-2008, 03:31 PM

Amazing how fast they have gone. This way I think the price on them should grow fast!

rkbdomain · 02-16-2008, 04:12 PM

here

evirtual1 · 02-16-2008, 04:56 PM

oh no ..... my 04440.net is not .com , starts with a 0 and has 3 ... 4's

LOL !!

DomainMagnate · 02-16-2008, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by evirtual1

oh no ..... my 04440.net is not .com , starts with a 0 and has 3 ... 4's
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=433115

LOL !!

heh well it's a good number, but I don't think there is a market for NNNNN.net now.

Although its interesting that marchex redirect all their US zip code NNNNN.com's to NNNNN.net. So I guess they own like a half of NNNNN.net's too

filter · 02-16-2008, 05:15 PM

how about -> 46457 (.com)

just easy to type - no significant results from Google

I won't be selling it for less than $100, though may take a few years before the market reaches that level.

As funds allow in the near future I'll consider buying similar (easy typers) priced between $10 and $20 (quick buy at $10, might shop around a bit at $20)

But what say you?

rkbdomain · 02-16-2008, 05:25 PM

Turns out a bunch of domainers from Germany were following the countdown and even buying many of the remaining NNNNN.com's. One even remarked that he tried to register his postal code and it was already gone, so to those of us that bought a lot of foreign postal codes, the world is watching and interested, congrats!

Originally Posted by filter

how about -> 46457 (.com)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=433115

just easy to type - no significant results from Google

I won't be selling it for less than $100, though may take a few years before the market reaches that level.

As funds allow in the near future I'll consider buying similar (easy typers) priced between $10 and $20 (quick buy at $10, might shop around a bit at $20)

But what say you?

I like it, 464 is a nice sequence and then 57 is a good increasing ending. Easy to remember and it seems like my NNNNN.com's with nice sequences actually get the best type-in traffic so who knows.

DomainMagnate · 02-16-2008, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by rkbdomain

Turns out a bunch of domainers from Germany were following the countdown and even buying many of the remaining NNNNN.com's. One even remarked that he tried to register his postal code and it was already gone, so to those of us that bought a lot of foreign postal codes, the world is watching and interested, congrats!

yes I've had many visitors on my blog from that forum, also Russians an Chinese domenforum.net, domain.cn

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=433115

46457 is pretty cool, good to know you won't be looking to sell cheap and quick

I have some foreign codes and I also have a bunch of NNNNNs with around 10 million results in google. It's interesting that smaller number usually have more results in google, which further shows that smaller numbers are more valuable.

filter · 02-16-2008, 06:00 PM

Thanks. If I had regged more than a handful, I'd consider doing the "quick flip for instant 50% ROI" (and am hoping you and some other large holders will be putting some cheapies out on the market soon). But the real value in these (as with the "random" LLLL domains) is going to be seen more obviously quite a few years from now - in the meantime will be resellers doing the "future possibility discounted to present value of money" calculation based mostly on scarcity premium.

Noting that I've quickly become pretty fond of these numbers now that I have a few, I'm guessing that there may be an increasing demand among resellers once they try one or 2 on for size. (Strong "hypability" quotient - not being cynical, as I think these do have solid value in the long run - so maybe some very "helpful hype" in play here.)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=433115

Here are a couple more for evaluation: 47212 (212 is NYC phone area code) and 41556 (415 is San Francisco area code) ...

DotCN · 02-16-2008, 06:58 PM

it's a good idea.

filter · 02-16-2008, 07:05 PM

One of the reasons I like them is that they are fairly easy for the average person to remember - and more so if a chunk of the digits has some meaning.

See here for some interesting reading about human memory -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mag...s_or_Minus_Two

and also the original source material for the "7 plus or minus 2" meme here -> http://www.musanim.com/miller1956/

mkellerman · 02-17-2008, 02:34 AM

Does anyone have a US zip code list?

Does anyone have a German or other country post code list?

If so, I'd very much appreciate it if you posted it, so that we can scan our domains against this

rkbdomain · 02-17-2008, 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by mkellerman

Does anyone have a US zip code list?

Does anyone have a German or other country post code list?

If so, I'd very much appreciate it if you posted it, so that we can scan our domains against this

I had posted this at the beginning of the countdown thread (seems like years ago!)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=433115

Huge database of foreign postal codes, many NNNNN's available here

mkellerman · 02-17-2008, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by rkbdomain

I had posted this at the beginning of the countdown thread (seems like years ago!)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=433115

Huge database of foreign postal codes, many NNNNN's available here

In that case, I have no US zip codes, but I have 14 German post codes:

98646.com Adelhausen bei Hildburghausen
84553.com Halsbach
87754.com Kammlach
97996.com Niederstetten
02625.COM Bautzen
36404.COM Gehaus
37434.COM An der Rhumequelle bei Gieboldehausen
50997.COM Köln
51143.COM Köln
66892.COM Bruchmühlbach-Miesau
67697.COM Otterberg
82284.COM Grafrath
84547.COM Emmerting
87727.COM Babenhausen

I also have a bunch of Italian ones:

09039.com Villacidro
06056.com Massa Martana
09030.COM Cagliari
09040.COM Armungia
09093.COM Gonnostramatza
27029.COM Vigevano
27033.COM Garbana
29011.COM Borgonovo Val Tidone
32031.COM Alano Di Piave
39013.COM Moos In Passeier
39022.COM Algund
39029.COM Solda
39030.COM Acereto
40141.COM Bologna
41013.COM Castelfranco Emilia
55061.COM Carraia
55062.COM Colle Di Compito
61017.COM Perticara
61022.COM Colbordolo
71012.COM Rodi Garganico
71015.COM Sannicandro Garganico
98079.COM Tusa

VURG · 02-17-2008, 04:53 AM

I think that anything bought for reg fee in the last two months is probably still worth reg fee. (Some exceptions apply) The significance of a buyout is often overated.

Alex · 02-17-2008, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by VURG

I think that anything bought for reg fee in the last two months is probably still worth reg fee. (Some exceptions apply) The significance of a buyout is often overated.

Repped. Just my thoughts.

rkbdomain · 02-17-2008, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by mkellerman

In that case, I have no US zip codes, but I have 14 German post codes:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=433115

98646.com Adelhausen bei Hildburghausen
84553.com Halsbach
87754.com Kammlach
97996.com Niederstetten
02625.COM Bautzen
36404.COM Gehaus
37434.COM An der Rhumequelle bei Gieboldehausen
50997.COM Köln
51143.COM Köln
66892.COM Bruchmühlbach-Miesau
67697.COM Otterberg
82284.COM Grafrath
84547.COM Emmerting
87727.COM Babenhausen

You may have many more foreign postal codes as well, many many countries have 5-digit postal codes.

mkellerman · 02-17-2008, 05:09 AM

Interesting thread here:

http://www.domainforum.info/viewtopi...d90b35475373ab

DomainMagnate · 02-17-2008, 05:35 AM

Germans are big on domains, right now there is urlaub.com at 700K euro on sedo

So German zip codes should be quite valuable

rkbdomain · 02-17-2008, 09:31 AM

If you participated in the buyout frenzy, you may own some! I've posted a list here.

02-16-2008, 05:32 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
DomainMagnate Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,576	Official NNNNN.com Evauation Thread All NNNNN.com's have been registered a couple hours ago and now is the time to start discussing their value. First some general guidelines: 1. According to http://www.3character.com/priceguide.html: ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/433115-official-nnnnn-com-evauation-thread.html 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9 are considered premium numbers. Other lesser high quality numbers include: 4 and 6. Lower quality numbers include the number 0. Premium NNNNN's were registered first, then more than 10k 5N.com were remaining 2. Domains starting with 0 are considered lower quality, while domaings ending with 0 are more round and thus better. 3. Lower numbers are typically more valuable, due to higher amount of possibilities and potential uses 4. Repeating digits are good, most valuable will be the domains with many repeating numbers. 5. Numbers ending in “5″ or multiples of “25″ are a little bit better. 6. Numbers that have special meaning, like zip codes, words on mobile devices, area codes etc. represent higher value. Post more tips below to compile a complete appraising guide! Also feel free to post some special numbers for appraisal. not the regular random NNNNN's you've just registered, but something more valuable, like 63400, 12349, 77723.. Current min prices for NNNN.com are around $350-400 Feb 20: 4 days after the buyout the min NNNNN.com prices are now basing around $12-15 Check the latest NNNNN.com Price Guide for frequent updates. __________________ Domain Magnate Last edited by Michael_Goldman; 02-19-2008 at 06:04 PM.

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gtss Account Closed Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SnapNames：861118 Posts: 159	Thank you

02-16-2008, 07:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
DomainName1 NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 323	Thanks for putting this thread together Michael! It will be interesting the see the pricing of the 1st aftermarket sales in this forum!

02-16-2008, 08:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
Langfhir NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 178	Allow me to offer the first number to be appraised: 61104 Zip Code for Rockford, Illinois, pop. 150,000 Link

02-16-2008, 09:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
GF Domain Buyer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 5,224	92631.com - Fullerton, CA ZIP code

02-16-2008, 05:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
filter Domain Wanker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,593	how about -> 46457 (.com) just easy to type - no significant results from Google I won't be selling it for less than $100, though may take a few years before the market reaches that level. As funds allow in the near future I'll consider buying similar (easy typers) priced between $10 and $20 (quick buy at $10, might shop around a bit at $20) But what say you?

02-16-2008, 06:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
filter Domain Wanker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,593	Thanks. If I had regged more than a handful, I'd consider doing the "quick flip for instant 50% ROI" (and am hoping you and some other large holders will be putting some cheapies out on the market soon). But the real value in these (as with the "random" LLLL domains) is going to be seen more obviously quite a few years from now - in the meantime will be resellers doing the "future possibility discounted to present value of money" calculation based mostly on scarcity premium. Noting that I've quickly become pretty fond of these numbers now that I have a few, I'm guessing that there may be an increasing demand among resellers once they try one or 2 on for size. (Strong "hypability" quotient - not being cynical, as I think these do have solid value in the long run - so maybe some very "helpful hype" in play here.) ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=433115 Here are a couple more for evaluation: 47212 (212 is NYC phone area code) and 41556 (415 is San Francisco area code) ...

02-16-2008, 07:05 PM	#16 (permalink)
filter Domain Wanker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,593	One of the reasons I like them is that they are fairly easy for the average person to remember - and more so if a chunk of the digits has some meaning. See here for some interesting reading about human memory -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mag...s_or_Minus_Two and also the original source material for the "7 plus or minus 2" meme here -> http://www.musanim.com/miller1956/

02-17-2008, 02:34 AM	#17 (permalink)
mkellerman NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 814	Does anyone have a US zip code list? Does anyone have a German or other country post code list? If so, I'd very much appreciate it if you posted it, so that we can scan our domains against this

02-17-2008, 04:53 AM	#20 (permalink)
VURG VURG Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 2,565	I think that anything bought for reg fee in the last two months is probably still worth reg fee. (Some exceptions apply) The significance of a buyout is often overated.

02-17-2008, 05:09 AM	#23 (permalink)
mkellerman NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 814	Interesting thread here: http://www.domainforum.info/viewtopi...d90b35475373ab

02-17-2008, 05:35 AM	THREAD STARTER #24 (permalink)
DomainMagnate Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,576	Germans are big on domains, right now there is urlaub.com at 700K euro on sedo So German zip codes should be quite valuable __________________ Domain Magnate

02-17-2008, 09:31 AM	#25 (permalink)
rkbdomain NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 550 Follow @rkbdomain	Kuwaiti Postal Codes If you participated in the buyout frenzy, you may own some! I've posted a list here. __________________ www.NNNNNdomains.com The source for Numeric Domains: market analysis, registration trends, and auction results.

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