Reece

Many LLLL.com scams are currently going on. Please read this thread, avoid doing sales via Paypal or any currency exchange which isn't "hard" and be careful no matter who you're dealing with. I recommend using Moneybookers for all domain name purchases. NP$ are another safe option.


There's another very large fraud investigation going on over at the other forum. Moderators over there have recommended people stay away from the following domains until it can be verified who the real owner is:

illu.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
neoo.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
bogy.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
veko.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
chah.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
mopi.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
admy.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
jeef.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
skyfish.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
gtgame.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
konet.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
gtoy.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
cdcm.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
keti.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
latt.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
xran.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
lave.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
anbu.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
jasu.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
morr.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
acct.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
sibe.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
jins.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
ftc.net poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-14 2008-04-14 Federal Trade Commision(Already has been SOLD)
microgreen.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-14 2008-04-14
gmeil.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmailcom.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmaii.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
frgoogle.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmile.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gmill.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
wowmart.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
youworld.com poscon@gmail.com Go Daddy Software,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13

3004.COM
DESIGNK.COM
DTWS.COM
GMDX.COM
HZHZ.COM
ICOZ.COM
JNSP.COM
REEX.COM
YESM.COM
GEHO.COM
WIHY.COM
SMSLIFE.COM
COJI.COM
OSSY.COM
MUKS.COM Ki
IZIP.COM

junto.com poscon@gmail.com Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
bestland.com poscon@gmail.com Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
uspace.com poscon@gmail.com Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
postdata.com poscon@gmail.com Dotster, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13

achannel.com poscon@gmail.com eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
texo.com poscon@gmail.com eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
rentsale.com poscon@gmail.com eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
advision.com poscon@gmail.com eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
blak.com poscon@gmail.com eNom, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13

eeee.com poscon@gmail.com Moniker Online Ser.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
egf.com poscon@gmail.com Moniker Online Ser.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
openclub.com poscon@gmail.com Name.com LLC 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
everygame.com poscon@gmail.com Name.com LLC 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
gns.net poscon@gmail.com Network Solutions,.. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
freesociety.com poscon@gmail.com Rebel.com Services.. 2008-04-15 2008-04-15
cznet.com poscon@gmail.com register.com, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
elli.com poscon@gmail.com register.com, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13
gtoys.com poscon@gmail.com register.com, Inc. 2008-04-13 2008-04-13


I was interested in one of these domains and I'm aware that at least 2 other NPers were in negotiations over some of these names as well. I'd recommend putting off any purchases of any of the names listed above until management over there gets to the bottom of this. The whois details are updated on these domains as per the dates the original poster suggests they were stolen and the current owner seems to be in a hurry to offload these domains, which seems somewhat questionable at best.

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sibaong

Originally Posted by Paypal

This payment has been selected for review and we have opened an investigation. We suspect that this transaction may not have been authorized by the PayPal account holder. We have placed a temporary hold on the funds until the investigation is complete. Please provide some additional information about this transaction. Response deadline: Feb. 5, 2008 Inquiry by PayPal - Case ID: PP-412-497-287 Status: Waiting For Seller's Response Transaction ID: 20C52167YT566570K Buyer Name & Email: James Morris, iggymorris@gmail.com Transaction Amount: $350,00 USD Transaction Date: Jan. 29, 2008

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Administrative Contact:
nospam, kev kevdomain@yahoo.com

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Reece

I posted this here (and paid for a sticky) because it seems like this guy is preying on Namepros members.. With how fast he's targetting them, having merely a post in the Warnings and Alerts section just won't get the word out soon enough...

Anyone with more info on this guy, please let us know. As EG.Domains, the NPer who alerted me to this scammer told me -- it's very probable that large holders of LLLL.coms are at the very top of his list of people to scam.

Originally Posted by sibaong

Domain Whois Administrative Contact: nospam, kev kevdomain@yahoo.com

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SlimPickins

thanks for the headsup! i actually received a bulk offer on my names from this person last night by email using the kevnospam account. i had an odd feeling, Declined his offer, and told him (since the text from my LLLL offers thread was pasted into the email) to please make future offers via pm or post OVER the forum, for both of our safety, as it includes a level of 'identity' and credibility. He made a second offer anyway via email which i declined. havent heard back since! thanks again for the info and i hope everyone gets their names back! sp

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Expron

It always stinks how a few bad seeds ruin it for the rest of us!

Thanks for the heads up Reece,

Without your warning, Many would probably fall victim of this scam. The odds always are... & with so many attempts...

Be on the lookout.

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EG.domains

Thanks to your Blog post all his emails indexed in Google now


Please keep your blog updated with any info about him. %90 of domainers search Google before selling or replying to "direct email offers"

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4LTR.org

So he broke into someone's paypal account and purchased a name with someone elses money? And slimpickins can you post his email account so we can investigate.

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Duh....I just saw that we have his email addresses. I'm sure he will get caught now.

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If your stolen domains on GoDaddy , contact :

support@godaddy.com & undo@secureserver.net

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mellowmasher

Originally Posted by Reece

The scammer is not a Namepros member which makes dealing with him more difficult. .

Staff are on the case and looking at an account

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His Yahoo Messenger nickname : Crazy crazy

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More info found by NPer Ronald Regging

Originally Posted by Ronald Regging

Did some digging, heres what I found so far: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=606491 A post on DP by a user named Kevnospam (banned), asking for an appraisal for the domain PayMass.com PayMass.com is owned by: Whois Record Registrant: Dorobantu Marian bd tomis nr 68 Constanta, Constanta 8700 Romania Did a bit more digging for this name and found another related scam thread on NP from Nov.. http://www.namepros.com/domain-name...-name-ebay.html Looks to be the same guy. Wibrodomains helped get the domains back for the person in the above thread, so I have asked him if he can check out this thread and maybe shed some light. Worth a shot at least

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Don

Kudos to you Reece for the sticky and extra exposure!

Hopefully nobody else will fall victim to this putz.

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Thanks for the info Reece.
I'll try do some digging as well.

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4LTR.org

Hmmm....word of advice. Last night someone posted an unbelievable offer for a great domain at a fantastic price here at Namepros. However, the ad said NO PM'S and he stated that you needed to send him and email. He then spelled out his email with the dot etc.. The person was a member since 2004 so I thought, it was a little strange, but, o.k.

Being a dummy late at night (12:00 am in California) I opened up my email program and sent them a letter saying I'd take the name. However, now looking back I realize this person has my personal email addres. So exercise caution not only if someone contacts you through your email, but, when responding to great offers for domains with a message that they won't accept PM's and that you need to email them.

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Reece

As long as you pay with Paypal, you're covered should the seller choose not to follow through. The burden is on the seller to provide proof that he "shipped" the item in question.

I've never been a big fan of selling domains using Paypal tbh -- and I'm sure some of you have seen one of my many rants on here about it. I was the victim of a similar scam (nothing to do with LLLL.coms though) in December of 2006 and am surprised at how little Paypal did to investigate the situation or even give me the time of day to tell my side of the story... They're clearly focussed on being "Buyer Safe" rather than "Transaction Safe" like Escrow.com would be...

I never do any transactions through Paypal with people who send emails to my whois listed email address. I'm very cautious about even doing Paypal transactions with newer Namepros members or members with little feedback. You can never be too safe... That $25 escrow fee is really worth the peace of mind... I do every transaction over $500 via escrow except when I have a good relationship with the buyer.

Originally Posted by 4ltrorg

Hmmm....word of advice. Last night someone posted an unbelievable offer for a great domain at a fantastic price here at Namepros. However, the ad said NO PM'S and he stated that you needed to send him and email. He then spelled out his email with the dot etc.. The person was a member since 2004 so I thought, it was a little strange, but, o.k. Being a dummy late at night (12:00 am in California) I opened up my email program and sent them a letter saying I'd take the name. However, now looking back I realize this person has my personal email addres. So exercise caution not only if someone contacts you through your email, but, when responding to great offers for domains with a message that they won't accept PM's and that you need to email them. .................................................. .......................... I just checked my email and I see that he accepted my offer. Do you think I should take a chance and buy it???

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zurc.net

Even more of a reason to hold onto my LLLL.com's

Thanks for the heads up, I have gotten a few offers on my LLLL.com's via email, I checked to see if any were him, but they weren't..

Thanks again,
-zurc