Elite LLL.com holders--Portfolios worth $100k+

fonzie_007 · 10-24-2006, 07:38 AM

A scan on 10/21/06 yielded the following number of domains registered to a particular email address.

This scan was sponsored by: www.4rchitect.com

Points to consider when interpreting the data:

This scan was imperfect due to whois privacy and one particularly large registrar blocking proxy whois queries for email addresses. In total, all 17576 LLL.com domains were scanned, but only 8753 came back with email results. This means that the scan only came back with apporximately 50% valid results. Please keep in mind the remaining 8823 domains may yield other email addresses that have large LLL.com portfolios or more domains registered to a particular email address that is already listed below.

While it is understood many LLL.com have values that far exceed $3,500, I have used this dollar value as a conservative mark of what an average LLL.com may be worth on a reseller's market.

An individual with a smaller portfolio may actually have a more valuable portfolio than someone who has a larger portfolio if the smaller portfolio has better letter quality.

Millionaires—The Elite of the Elite
Email address ---- # of domains ---- $ value (@$3500/domain)
develop[at]telepathy.com 895 $3,132,500
1[at]1tv.tv 575 $2,012,500
support[at]moniker.com 509 $1,781,500

Elite LLL.com holders
Email address ---- # of domains ---- $ value (@$3500/domain)
jdouman[at]aol.com 166 $581,000
itadmin[at]scottcraft.com 142 $497,000
admin[at]mostwanteddomains.biz 104 $364,000
javafx[at]aol.com 101 $353,500
admin[at]67k.com 97 $339,500
contact[at]anything.com 94 $329,000
drewphy[at]gmail.com 89 $311,500
chiccodin[at]aol.com 78 $273,000
proxy0805[at]domaingrabber.com 478 $273,000
domains[at]nettuner.com 63 $220,500
info[at]spamfreereg.com 60 $210,000
yoni[at]original.com 55 $192,500
noc[at]dwt.co.in 51 $178,500
brokerage[at]buydomains.com 50 $175,000
cio[at]3v.net 49 $171,500
dnsadmin[at]kingweb.com 44 $154,000
domainadmin[at]exoticdomains.net 43 $150,500
domains[at]modernsecurity.com 36 $126,000
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/250424-elite-lll-com-holders-portfolios-worth.html
corporatedomains[at]cscinfo.com 31 $108,500

Please do not email these individuals unless you are geniunely interested in purchasing their domains.

If you or someone you know has been omitted from this list, please pm me with the domains. I will then verify them and update the thread accordingly. Thanks.

Jiblob · 10-24-2006, 10:53 AM

1[at]1tv.tv is elequa me thinks

interesting

Chappy · 10-24-2006, 11:20 AM

Thanks for the info Fonzie. These are the LLL hogs that limit supply!

gazzip · 10-24-2006, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Jiblob

1[at]1tv.tv is elequa me thinks

interesting

Yep - he has thousands of LLL.com LLL.info LLL.biz

"Heading into the last week of February 2004, there were still thousands of threes available in .info and .biz (the best combinations were gone but as long as any lingered their very availability was a stigma for the entire extension as far as many investors were concerned). Then things literally changed overnight. On Monday, Feb. 23, the last available three-letter .info domains suddenly disappeared."

"He already held thousands of three-letter .coms, .nets and .orgs before claiming about 2,500 three-letter .infos and the 4,600 .biz. Adding those .biz domains to the 200 three-letter names he already had from the 2001 land rush gives him close to 30% of the world supply!. "
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=250424

http://www.dnjournal.com/columns/cover030304.htm

(for those that have'nt heard of Elequa )
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ekal · 10-24-2006, 11:40 AM

Telepathy.com own huge numbers of regional domains.

Lots of large U.S. cities and states (Pennsylvania.com, Maryland.com, NorthCarolina.com, Annapolis.com, CollegePark.com and OceanCity.com) plus most of the Indian states in .co.in.

kev · 10-24-2006, 11:44 AM

wow, 30% of the world supply

great investment!

fonzie_007 · 10-24-2006, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Jiblob

1[at]1tv.tv is elequa me thinks

interesting

Can anyone confirm this (that Elequa is 1[at]1tv.tv)?

gazzip · 10-24-2006, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by kev

wow, 30% of the world supply

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=250424

great investment!

I'd be as happy as a pig in s**t if I had just one good LLL.com !

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johnn · 10-24-2006, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by ekal

Telepathy.com own huge numbers of regional domains.

Lots of large U.S. cities and states (Pennsylvania.com, Maryland.com, NorthCarolina.com, Annapolis.com, CollegePark.com and OceanCity.com) plus most of the Indian states in .co.in.

I just talked to Nat from Telepathy a couple of days ago.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=250424
They seem to be interested in my 3-letter .com

They're heading to the traffic conference in FL this week.

kev · 10-24-2006, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by gazzip

I'd be as happy as a pig in s**t if I had just one good LLL.com !

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=250424

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your so right there man

gazzip · 10-24-2006, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by fonzie_007

Can anyone confirm this (that Elequa is 1[at]1tv.tv)?

1tv.tv
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=250424

Registrant: Future Media Architects, Inc
FMA .com (email removed)
P.O.Box 71
Road Town, Tortola 99999
VG

fma is Elequa

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scrsteven · 10-24-2006, 12:05 PM

You probably aren't making these people too happy by posting their email addresses...
interesting info regardless. How is your post "sponsored by" a website?

fonzie_007 · 10-24-2006, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by scrsteven

You probably aren't making these people too happy by posting their email addresses...
interesting info regardless. How is your post "sponsored by" a website?

It's harpo's website. He sponsored the search. I am not related with the website.

***Domainate.com*** · 10-24-2006, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by johnn

I just talked to Nat from Telepathy a couple of days ago.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=250424
They seem to be interested in my 3-letter .com

They're heading to the traffic conference in FL this week.

Cool...my OTY.com will hopefully be making the auction. Maybe they'll take a stab at it.

equity78 · 10-24-2006, 05:25 PM

Very cool fonzie and I invented the post sponsored theme with the .tv original thread very cool and nice site Harpo. Yes 1@1.tv Is Elequa and those 575 are not for sale at any price has received offers many times

OTY.com nice one IMO good luck with the sale

gamehouse · 10-24-2006, 06:51 PM

Mind blowing. Nice info there Fonzie. Eloqua also owns lot of .tv primium names.

GH

Lasher · 10-24-2006, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by fonzie_007

brokerage[at]buydomains.com 50 $175,000

50 domains at $25 each = $1250. That's some nice profit they're sitting on right there

VURG · 10-24-2006, 08:40 PM

I'm guessing that there are many 3 letter domains worth more than $3,132,500. My gut feeling is that an average 3 letter domain at $3500 is very low. Over 70% of 3 letter domains have at least two premium letters. Personally, I would multiply these figures by at least 2.

Charley · 10-24-2006, 11:24 PM

Quote:

http://www.dnjournal.com/columns/cover030304.htm

(for those that have'nt heard of Elequa )

Wow, this is one cool guy. How does he renew all these Domains !

gazzip · 10-25-2006, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by Charley

Wow, this is one cool guy. How does he renew all these Domains !

He's so cool he even owns it

yep, he owns Cool.com !!!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=250424

....and music.tv - MP3.tv - ibiza.com - Dj.net - i.net ...oh and MEDIA.com !!!

I would hate to imagine what Media.com alone is worth ! any guesses ?

www.fma.com

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Originally Posted by microdude431

I bet one of those guys is a member here at NP. 575 LLL domains is a lot... wow.

Elequa is for sure

fonzie_007 · 10-25-2006, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by VURG

I'm guessing that there are many 3 letter domains worth more than $3,132,500. My gut feeling is that an average 3 letter domain at $3500 is very low. Over 70% of 3 letter domains have at least two premium letters. Personally, I would multiply these figures by at least 2.

You are right and that is why I prefaced the post stating the fact the $3500 is a very conservative estimate (even on a reseller's market).

gazzip · 10-25-2006, 05:36 AM

I can't get my head around the whole LLL.com thing to be honest

I can only really see the actual value in them as acronyms for company names etc (big value) but - why do people that have loads of money and will not ever sell them want them so much ?

Yes the may get alot of traffic but does that traffic actually convert to clicks ?

Just how would anyone know what they were looking for in order to have decent ads for them to click on ?

Are they valuable only because they are so rare and if so does this make them usefull though or just an under used trophy ?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=250424

someone please enlighten me

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Lasher · 10-25-2006, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by gazzip

He's so cool he even owns it

yep, he owns Cool.com !!!

....and music.tv - MP3.tv - ibiza.com - Dj.net - i.net ...oh and MEDIA.com !!!

I would hate to imagine what Media.com alone is worth ! any guesses ?

www.fma.com

Check this out for a portfolio, and this is by no means a complete list:

search.com, tv.com, radio.com, help.com, tunes.com, mp3.com, freeware.com, news.com, computers.com, browser.com, online.com, browsers.com, builder.com, downloads.com, uploads.com, future.com, labs.com, shopper.com, welcome.com.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=250424

All owned by Cnet. *Drool*

VURG · 10-25-2006, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by gazzip

I can't get my head around the whole LLL.com thing to be honest

I can only really see the actual value in them as acronyms for company names etc (big value) but - why do people that have loads of money and will not ever sell them want them so much ?

Yes the may get alot of traffic but does that traffic actually convert to clicks ?

Just how would anyone know what they were looking for in order to have decent ads for them to click on ?

Are they valuable only because they are so rare and if so does this make them usefull though or just an under used trophy ?

someone please enlighten me

.

The big thing about a 3 letter domain is it is easy to remember. What I consider significant about this is that an easy to remember name results in a higher response rate to an advertising campaign as the market that you advertise to is less likely to forget who advertised to them.

Lets say you are a company and your marketing costs for the next 3 years are expected to be $20 million. Typically your market has a response rate of 0.7% if you use a hard to remember name and 0.6% if you use a hard to remember name. Now if that $20 million brings in $30 million in revenue (after sales costs) with a 0.6% response rate how much revenue would a 0.7% response rate bring?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=250424

$35 million. An increase of $5 million. It doesn't stop there there is now an extra $5 million to reinvest. This has an exponential effect on the effectiveness of marketing business for the life of the business. The higher response rate in marketing would definately means for example the domain name is worth millions.

You may think that this is quite extreme but I don't. I know of one group who call themselves KFC when they used to call themselves "Kentucky Fried Chicken". I know of another group who call themselves NAB when they used to call themselves "National Australia Bank". I know of other cases as well. This act of a large company reinventing themselves to their 3 letter acronym name often costs the company tens or hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars. In hindsite they realise the lost business they have because their name is easily forgotten.

It's not just reponse rate in marketing. It's maintaining customers as well. A company can lose very good customers just because they have a complex business name. It's not just forgetting, you can lose a customer to a spelling mistake. This is extremely frustrating with email addresses. You tell a customer your email address over the phone and they put in one letter wrong and get upset at you for not responding.

$3500 is nothing to a lot of companies and a lot of wealthy people. Increased response rate in marketing is often a lot bigger consideration in the value of a three letter domain than type-in traffic. Many investors are happy to wait for the $XXX,XXX+ offers because there is a good chance that with enough time, somebody will be willing to pay that. In addition the competition between LLL.com investors to own large collections is growing and giving steady growth in values of the domains.

gazzip · 10-25-2006, 03:59 PM

I can only really see the actual value in them as acronyms for company names etc (big value)

but -

why do people that have loads of money and will not ever sell them want them so much ?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=250424
.............................................

Great post Vurg

I do realise the value of them regarding SELLING to end users/businesses and the benefits of a short easy to remember domain when it comes to marketing but alot of the people that have thousands of LLL 's eg. Elequa state that they are NOT FOR SALE and so few ever get developed.

I just question how a random LLL.com can be suitably monetised for domain parking - as you would basically have no idea what the person is looking for.

They cost alot to buy but do they produce a good return in PPC ?

Thanks, Rep added

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10-24-2006, 07:38 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
fonzie_007 NamePros Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: LLL.us City Posts: 6,328	Elite LLL.com holders--Portfolios worth $100k+ A scan on 10/21/06 yielded the following number of domains registered to a particular email address. This scan was sponsored by: www.4rchitect.com Points to consider when interpreting the data: This scan was imperfect due to whois privacy and one particularly large registrar blocking proxy whois queries for email addresses. In total, all 17576 LLL.com domains were scanned, but only 8753 came back with email results. This means that the scan only came back with apporximately 50% valid results. Please keep in mind the remaining 8823 domains may yield other email addresses that have large LLL.com portfolios or more domains registered to a particular email address that is already listed below. While it is understood many LLL.com have values that far exceed $3,500, I have used this dollar value as a conservative mark of what an average LLL.com may be worth on a reseller's market. An individual with a smaller portfolio may actually have a more valuable portfolio than someone who has a larger portfolio if the smaller portfolio has better letter quality. Millionaires—The Elite of the Elite Email address ---- # of domains ---- $ value (@$3500/domain) develop[at]telepathy.com 895 $3,132,500 1[at]1tv.tv 575 $2,012,500 support[at]moniker.com 509 $1,781,500 Elite LLL.com holders Email address ---- # of domains ---- $ value (@$3500/domain) jdouman[at]aol.com 166 $581,000 itadmin[at]scottcraft.com 142 $497,000 admin[at]mostwanteddomains.biz 104 $364,000 javafx[at]aol.com 101 $353,500 admin[at]67k.com 97 $339,500 contact[at]anything.com 94 $329,000 drewphy[at]gmail.com 89 $311,500 chiccodin[at]aol.com 78 $273,000 proxy0805[at]domaingrabber.com 478 $273,000 domains[at]nettuner.com 63 $220,500 info[at]spamfreereg.com 60 $210,000 yoni[at]original.com 55 $192,500 noc[at]dwt.co.in 51 $178,500 brokerage[at]buydomains.com 50 $175,000 cio[at]3v.net 49 $171,500 dnsadmin[at]kingweb.com 44 $154,000 domainadmin[at]exoticdomains.net 43 $150,500 domains[at]modernsecurity.com 36 $126,000 ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/250424-elite-lll-com-holders-portfolios-worth.html corporatedomains[at]cscinfo.com 31 $108,500 Please do not email these individuals unless you are geniunely interested in purchasing their domains. If you or someone you know has been omitted from this list, please pm me with the domains. I will then verify them and update the thread accordingly. Thanks. __________________ Feeling achy? · ACL Injury Information · Indian Recipes Last edited by fonzie_007; 10-25-2006 at 05:04 AM.

10-24-2006, 10:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
Jiblob Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: .co.uk Posts: 2,237 Follow @coultonluke	1[at]1tv.tv is elequa me thinks interesting __________________ :hi:

10-24-2006, 11:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
Chappy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,104	Thanks for the info Fonzie. These are the LLL hogs that limit supply! __________________ Domainer Since 1975

10-24-2006, 11:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
kev KevinMacpherson.co.uk Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 3,886	wow, 30% of the world supply great investment! __________________ One Letter Domain Names for sale including F.AF - 40 other names available all priced to sell

10-24-2006, 12:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
scrsteven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: FL Posts: 1,267	You probably aren't making these people too happy by posting their email addresses... interesting info regardless. How is your post "sponsored by" a website? __________________ SKDomains.com Distance Learning

10-24-2006, 11:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
ekal Play up Pompey! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,324	Telepathy.com own huge numbers of regional domains. Lots of large U.S. cities and states (Pennsylvania.com, Maryland.com, NorthCarolina.com, Annapolis.com, CollegePark.com and OceanCity.com) plus most of the Indian states in .co.in.

10-24-2006, 05:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	Very cool fonzie and I invented the post sponsored theme with the .tv original thread very cool and nice site Harpo. Yes 1@1.tv Is Elequa and those 575 are not for sale at any price has received offers many times OTY.com nice one IMO good luck with the sale __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

10-24-2006, 06:51 PM	#16 (permalink)
gamehouse Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,401	Mind blowing. Nice info there Fonzie. Eloqua also owns lot of .tv primium names. GH

10-24-2006, 08:40 PM	#18 (permalink)
VURG VURG Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 2,565	I'm guessing that there are many 3 letter domains worth more than $3,132,500. My gut feeling is that an average 3 letter domain at $3500 is very low. Over 70% of 3 letter domains have at least two premium letters. Personally, I would multiply these figures by at least 2.

10-25-2006, 05:36 AM	#22 (permalink)
gazzip First Time Poster ! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: GB Posts: 6,877	I can't get my head around the whole LLL.com thing to be honest I can only really see the actual value in them as acronyms for company names etc (big value) but - why do people that have loads of money and will not ever sell them want them so much ? Yes the may get alot of traffic but does that traffic actually convert to clicks ? Just how would anyone know what they were looking for in order to have decent ads for them to click on ? Are they valuable only because they are so rare and if so does this make them usefull though or just an under used trophy ? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=250424 someone please enlighten me . Last edited by gazzip; 10-25-2006 at 05:40 AM.

10-25-2006, 03:59 PM	#25 (permalink)
gazzip First Time Poster ! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: GB Posts: 6,877	I can only really see the actual value in them as acronyms for company names etc (big value) but - why do people that have loads of money and will not ever sell them want them so much ? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=250424 ............................................. Great post Vurg I do realise the value of them regarding SELLING to end users/businesses and the benefits of a short easy to remember domain when it comes to marketing but alot of the people that have thousands of LLL 's eg. Elequa state that they are NOT FOR SALE and so few ever get developed. I just question how a random LLL.com can be suitably monetised for domain parking - as you would basically have no idea what the person is looking for. They cost alot to buy but do they produce a good return in PPC ? Thanks, Rep added .

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