Learned some lesson: Link Quality Counts

dotker · 01-30-2010, 09:23 PM

A few months back was making some few decent cash being on the first page of some keywords so I thought I do some more link building (dumped some links everywhere) hoping to improve but after less than a week my site fell back to the second page & now after a couple im not in the top 5 anymore!

This sucks my income signifacantly dropped on playing around with two sites so link quality counts & its not a good idea submitting your sites to a bunch of directories.

AbsoluteKC · 01-31-2010, 07:12 AM

Is it a new site? Newer sites are more prone to ranking fluctuations than older sites.. your ranking may recovers after a few days. I do experience this effects sometimes.

For link building, try to be consistent. This is the probably the best advice I can give =)

All the best with your site!

seotogo · 02-01-2010, 11:31 AM

Just keep focused on linking to relevant sites and not the shotgun approach. If you keep focused on link building from websites in your industry you'll be Okay.

octanmedia · 02-02-2010, 03:58 AM

Link with less but quality sites. Relevant to your website. Sooner you will again be on first page.

andr69 · 02-02-2010, 05:41 AM

Thanks for sharing your experience – although it is not at all lucky.

JoshOm · 02-02-2010, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by seotogo

Just keep focused on linking to relevant sites and not the shotgun approach. If you keep focused on link building from websites in your industry you'll be Okay.

I agree with that is the whole truth , just focus on linkbuilding and try to get more links from high ranked web sites

Hafsoh · 02-03-2010, 05:17 AM

Drop in ranking can occur also if using spammy links, or using too much similar anchor text. If most all of your anchor text is focused on your core phrase that may preclude your site for being able to rank high for that phrase.
Just continue to build related links mixing up the anchor text, if a site rankings fluctuate a bit but are always near the top you may just need a few more links with target anchor text, or a few more authoritative links.

Innocent Akuma · 02-03-2010, 05:25 AM

Your drop in link is what is called google dance. Your site will come back again.Just keep building links

durrenmatt · 02-04-2010, 02:51 PM

a link from a high pr site counts more than a few links from low-quality sites, so submitting to good sites will decrease the amount of work too...

***Corey*** · 02-04-2010, 03:11 PM

why not focus on content and buy text links?

Cheers
Corey

thebutler · 02-04-2010, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by dotker

A few months back was making some few decent cash being on the first page of some keywords so I thought I do some more link building (dumped some links everywhere) hoping to improve but after less than a week my site fell back to the second page & now after a couple im not in the top 5 anymore!

This sucks my income signifacantly dropped on playing around with two sites so link quality counts & its not a good idea submitting your sites to a bunch of directories.

If this scenario was the sole factor in your SERP drop you would simply have to duplicate the same link strategy for the sites above you. You would than rise up as they dropped down. Other factors besides link quality likely caused the drop in ranking.

bigmonkey · 02-25-2010, 01:49 AM

Hi, this is a funy topic. you can make some links to other site... They usually should have high PR. but google always change its arithmetic. now the effect of links is not as good as before. Im now study new ways to solve this problem.

Thanks

thatguy · 02-26-2010, 05:31 PM

Quality beats quantity any day of the week. So many people think just by dropping links all over it will help when in reality it can hinder. I've also seen sites dominate the SERPs who did not link to a bunch of high PR pages but instead linked to pages with relevant content on sites that Google overall trusts highly.

TechGuy1 · 03-01-2010, 06:01 PM

relevant sites and quality directories.

harkster · 03-11-2010, 04:41 PM

A few rules for submitting to directories.

1. Never ever submit to link farms. Link farms are 'so called' directories who have no editorial policy and accept any and all submissions. Read a few of their latest entries and if you see spam/keyword stuffed titles and descriptions run for the hills. These are bad neighborhoods.

2. Only submit to SEO friendly directories. These are ones who provide at least 1 direct DO FOLLOW link to your site using your title as the anchor text.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/search-engines/637120-learned-some-lesson-link-quality-counts.html

3. Write different descriptions for submissions so Big G won't see lots of duplicate content.

4. Avoid the automated submission services. There are some quality manual services but check them out before forking over any funds.

amelia20 · 03-12-2010, 03:47 AM

Just keep working on building quality links from various sources. I also think if your site is new then this is quite normal. If your suggested keywords are good for you then very soon you'll get a stable position in Google. But don't stop to link back your site from various sources (except link farms etc.) by using forums, blogs, articles, social bookmarking and networking, squidoo lens, hubpages, video marketing and many more possible sources.

globegenius · 03-12-2010, 05:54 PM

Not sure how I can get better ranking so any advice is great. This domain is only a couple of weeks old.

A search in Google for 5 star cruise ship (spaces between all) and I'm no where to be seen.

A search in Google for 5 star cruiseship (no space between cruise and ship) and I'm near the top.

Do you think in time I will rank better? I am up against some big players here.
Better site content maybe?

5starcruiseship

linkmoko · 03-16-2010, 07:22 AM

Definitely Google will count quality links from high quality high PR websites.

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bigmonkey New Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3	my opnion Hi, this is a funy topic. you can make some links to other site... They usually should have high PR. but google always change its arithmetic. now the effect of links is not as good as before. Im now study new ways to solve this problem. Thanks __________________ This is earth not beaven,so you should be better... ugg boots Ed Hardy ghd straighteners

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thatguy New Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 21	Quality beats quantity any day of the week. So many people think just by dropping links all over it will help when in reality it can hinder. I've also seen sites dominate the SERPs who did not link to a bunch of high PR pages but instead linked to pages with relevant content on sites that Google overall trusts highly.

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TechGuy1 Account Closed Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: MASS Posts: 185 Follow @techguyinfo	relevant sites and quality directories.

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harkster Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Red State Posts: 1,605	A few rules for submitting to directories. 1. Never ever submit to link farms. Link farms are 'so called' directories who have no editorial policy and accept any and all submissions. Read a few of their latest entries and if you see spam/keyword stuffed titles and descriptions run for the hills. These are bad neighborhoods. 2. Only submit to SEO friendly directories. These are ones who provide at least 1 direct DO FOLLOW link to your site using your title as the anchor text. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/search-engines/637120-learned-some-lesson-link-quality-counts.html 3. Write different descriptions for submissions so Big G won't see lots of duplicate content. 4. Avoid the automated submission services. There are some quality manual services but check them out before forking over any funds. __________________ -- A Sometimes Light Hearted Journey Through The History of Shoes -- -- QUHL.com --

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amelia20 NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 25	Just keep working on building quality links from various sources. I also think if your site is new then this is quite normal. If your suggested keywords are good for you then very soon you'll get a stable position in Google. But don't stop to link back your site from various sources (except link farms etc.) by using forums, blogs, articles, social bookmarking and networking, squidoo lens, hubpages, video marketing and many more possible sources. __________________ Hire PHP Programmer

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globegenius Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Matrix Posts: 506 Follow @HOSTNHUB	Better SEO Not sure how I can get better ranking so any advice is great. This domain is only a couple of weeks old. A search in Google for 5 star cruise ship (spaces between all) and I'm no where to be seen. A search in Google for 5 star cruiseship (no space between cruise and ship) and I'm near the top. Do you think in time I will rank better? I am up against some big players here. Better site content maybe? 5starcruiseship

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