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Old 07-09-2009, 12:06 AM THREAD STARTER               #1 (permalink)
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Help! Do search engines pick up .infos? urgent help needed!!!


Today i am thinking of registering a .info domain and developing it, so i just wanted to ask that if a keyword is registered in many extensions and only if the .info is developed, would the search engines show .info domain ahead of other extensions for that keyword search?

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Domain extensions have nothing to do with SERPs. I guess you could say .edu and .gov have more weight or creditability, but besides that it doesn't matter if you have .info or .com.

And Google always valued content/quality so why would they rank a non developed keyword.com higher than your developed keyword.info?
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I have a developed LLN.info where the .com is parked
when you type just the LLN in google, it's on the first page (197,000) results
and no .com in site
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there a lot of keywords with thousands of exact searches and most of the domains registered (specifically .com and .nets) are undeveloped so it would be a good idea to pick up the cheap extension .info and developing it!
resulting in more traffic..

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Originally Posted by mis_chiff View Post
I have a developed LLN.info where the .com is parked
when you type just the LLN in google, it's on the first page (197,000) results
and no .com in site
now thats a great thing!
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that makes the .info more valuable than the .com , until someone develops the .com 2!
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Originally Posted by conanfx View Post
there a lot of keywords with thousands of exact searches and most of the domains registered (specifically .com and .nets) are undeveloped so it would be a good idea to pick up the cheap extension .info and developing it!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=595310
resulting in more traffic..
yea it is a smart method but can also be time consuming which is why there are many keyword TLDS still available.
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Go with the .info! If properly developed, your website will be in the first page(s) of search eangines.
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I only have one developed .info site but I don't see any penalty for .info. The search phrase "vestido de boda" (wedding dress in Spanish) produces 2.8 million results without quotes and 68K with quotes. Per Google Adwords keyword tool, the phrase is searched about 8 thousand times monthly (plural would be better). In either case my ministe with a few videos, pictures of my wife searching for dresses and minimal textual content is on page one of Google position eight (without quotes which is the way most people search) for that phrase. However, the page which appears is the privacy page which neither has the keyword phrase nor any content about wedding dresses? The only thing I can imagine is Google likes text and that is the one page with more text than any other
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However, a comparable and higher-quality wedding dress minisite (in regards to videos and photos but Google doesn't care) on a .TV domain doesn't get the same favorable treatment. The phrase "vestidos de novia" shows far fewer results but our site is on page twelve of Google while a .COM minisite (another registrant, older site and more text) with the same keywords is on page two. It appears .TV does not get the same favorable treatment as .COM, .NET, .INFO by Google.
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Originally Posted by garptrader View Post
I only have one developed .info site but I don't see any penalty for .info. The search phrase "vestido de boda" (wedding dress in Spanish) produces 2.8 million results without quotes and 68K with quotes. Per Google Adwords keyword tool, the phrase is searched about 8 thousand times monthly (plural would be better). In either case my ministe with a few videos, pictures of my wife searching for dresses and minimal textual content is on page one of Google position eight (without quotes which is the way most people search) for that phrase. However, the page which appears is the privacy page which neither has the keyword phrase nor any content about wedding dresses? The only thing I can imagine is Google likes text and that is the one page with more text than any other
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=595310

However, a comparable and higher-quality wedding dress minisite (in regards to videos and photos but Google doesn't care) on a .TV domain doesn't get the same favorable treatment. The phrase "vestidos de novia" shows far fewer results but our site is on page twelve of Google while a .COM minisite (another registrant, older site and more text) with the same keywords is on page two. It appears .TV does not get the same favorable treatment as .COM, .NET, .INFO by Google.
thank you for sharing your experience, maybe this will help us domainers understand google better~
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It is actually quite interesting that you bring this up. Correct me if im wrong, but I remember a while back that Google was once considering purging all .info domains from it's index. The idea behind this was that because .info domains were so cheap to register (99 cents to $1.99 for the first year), people were using them for scam and phishing sites, etc.

However this idea never did go through as far as I know.
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If you Google Amsterdam, amsterdam.info is above amsterdam.com - that result alone made me re-evaluate the extension...
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Even if the dot com is eventually developed your site will have the advantage of age, links etc. Personally I think it will be years before most of the dot coms are developed so I like to build sites on other extensions.
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So many factors go into SERP rankings, and TLD is definitely one of them.

.info has been slapped by google a bit. Scammers and affiliates bought these up in bulk and as a result google treats .info as a second rate tld. Compared to a .Net .Org or .Com they will not initially perform as well.

Back to the first point, since there are many factors involved in SERP rankings the TLD effect can be overcome and minimized. I personally have one .info site that does quite well in the SERP's but it did not take off quickly or easily as one of the big three would have. Once google develops a 'trust' of your website/domain then you will have no problems. Gaining this trust just takes a little bit longer with a .info domain. Hard to get top rankings in the first few months, not impossible, just a little harder. After that, it all depends on your links, content, 'on site SEO', and the relative strength of your competition. If you have solid content and a good SEO strategy then .info is worth considering. If you are planning on making a 'one-page wonder' affiliate site, then you will not likely gain G's trust with a .info, and will likely be placed in the supplemental results. The google deep dark dungeon.
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This has been my experience, of course your mileage may vary.
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I agree, to the person above who said TLD doesn't matter in SERP - that's not my experience.

In my experience, .COM still rules in SERP and I think for some info .org is valuable too. .INFO does get penalized. You can get ranked, and even ranked well with .INFO, but it's more difficult than with .COM.

In the end, unique, useful content is still the way to get on page one with ANY tld.
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What intheflow said was spot on.

.info's appear to be subject to a little more initial scrutiny because of the history of spammy usage. However if you build a quality site your rankings for various keywords will be determined the same as they would if your site was built on any other TLD.

The key concept is "quality site" .
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dude, Google knows that tons of scammers use .info. So you won't get ranked as quickly as you would with a .com or .org. Avoid .info if you can - it'll make getting up in the SERPs just a bit harder and longer.
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Google .info and phishing and you will find articles showing that .info has become one of the safer .TLDs in the past couple of years since the registry got tougher on security.

Google has also stated repeatedly they dont discriminate based on TLD's

I run about a dozen .info sites and they do as well as my .com or .net sites, sometimes better. My most profitable site is an .info.

People who think Google slaps info are just superstitious as there is NO data to back this up. Yes .coms rank high in the search but that is because of factors like age, content, amount of promotion and other factors unrelated to choice of TLD.

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However, the page which appears is the privacy page which neither has the keyword phrase nor any content about wedding dresses? The only thing I can imagine is Google likes text and that is the one page with more text than any other
You need to use nofollow to sculpt your internal PR to fix this. Links to things like privacy or contact which often appear site-wide but don't contain content should be nofollowed.
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People who think Google slaps info are just superstitious as there is NO data to back this up.
The only "clue" that I know of that Google might at one time have been treating them differently (or was thinking of doing so) was the incident a while back when all the .info's got dropped from the index for about a day. Obviously a big "oops" on their part, but what were they testing when things went awry?
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Originally Posted by pcp View Post
If you Google Amsterdam, amsterdam.info is above amsterdam.com - that result alone made me re-evaluate the extension...

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=595310
Same thing if you google Spain .....not surprising though if you look at spain.com



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The only "clue" that I know of that Google might at one time have been treating them differently (or was thinking of doing so) was the incident a while back when all the .info's got dropped from the index for about a day. Obviously a big "oops" on their part, but what were they testing when things went awry?
.info being so cheap (the first year) it's an attractive TLD for spammers and people who are up to no good. Same holds true for .tk.
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There's nothing wrong with .info extension. It can overtake other extension if you do better SEO for it.
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It wont have any problem and domain names are in no way related to serps. It is backlinks that rank you higher in serps. If you've tons of backlinks for free blogger blog, you can still make your way up to the first page.
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.info is spammer tend to use because of low cost. So Google doesn't love it
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Originally Posted by conanfx View Post
Today i am thinking of registering a .info domain and developing it, so i just wanted to ask that if a keyword is registered in many extensions and only if the .info is developed, would the search engines show .info domain ahead of other extensions for that keyword search?

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A .info domain can rank as high as a .com domain. Domain extensions only matter when it comes to ranking of sites for localized searches.
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Originally Posted by angilina View Post
A .info domain can rank as high as a .com domain. Domain extensions only matter when it comes to ranking of sites for localized searches.
what are localized searches?
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what are localized searches?
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Local search example.
Toronto Canada - the Toronto.ca extension (Canada TLD) would have some extra SERP benefit if it was developed the exact same way as the Toronto.info

Also for anyone worried about .info, scammers and a Google slap I'd think that by regging for an extra year that might help any potential Google slap. The scammers usually do not reg for more than one year.
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