Google on .info

Takwa · 08-01-2008, 07:32 AM

My .info site is ranked about 2 millions in Alexa, and traffic been going up.

But I found out Google sech on my keywords gone really bad, a month ago I my site can be found on page 10 of the key word, now it dropped to page 18.

it's a "Keyword".info so I am wondering do Goggle favour .com/net/org to .info?

soggyindo · 08-01-2008, 07:54 AM

I've heard they do. They place .com/.net/.org and the local ccTLD (.co.uk, .com.au or even .asia and .eu) over .info, .tv, .cc, .ws etc results.

The logic is that .tv, .cc, .ws are different places than the US or wherever, and hence show interest to different people. Com, net and org are "universal". It's a bit dated and doesn't make sense for .info I know (info island?).

Apparently if you follow the steps taken in Google Webmasters you can recalibrate your .info, .tv etc to "act" like a .com - and hence not suffer any drops in searches. I haven't tried this though - shoot me a PM if you do?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/search-engines/499083-google-on-info.html

Also, I'm not too worried (and developing like crazy .infos and .me) because, as more and more good content moves to these extensions, google would be shooting themselves in the business foot not to rank these sites. And they say it's all about delivering the best content to their users.

IMHO

Takwa · 08-01-2008, 08:54 AM

I knew it those Google looking down on .info, maybe I will give that thing a try thanks soggyindo Rep added

gwkg · 08-01-2008, 09:40 AM

Google definitely looks down at .info, Matt Cutts mentioned it. A .info domain needs to do more to establish trust that other domain extensions.

I've yet to see a .info with under a year registration do anything of significance in Google SERPs. Registering it for more than a few years might help, but I haven't seen any evidence of that yet. If anyone knows any different, I'd like to know.

interestedenough · 08-01-2008, 09:46 AM

I have noticed that it is harder to get your keywords up in the search engines when you have something other than .com than ws for example. However, the competition for keywords that I have for my .com's is lower than that for my .ws's.

I've registered some beautiful .ws dictionary words in the hopes that at some point the Search Engines recognize that the country that owns the extension rather have their .ws known as web site than as Western Samoa which isn't even their name anymore.

Takwa · 08-01-2008, 10:51 AM

How about .biz is it up there with .org or down there with .info?

Sleepys · 08-04-2008, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Takwa

How about .biz is it up there with .org or down there with .info?

Down there with .info.

holyroller · 08-04-2008, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by gwkg

Google definitely looks down at .info, Matt Cutts mentioned it. A .info domain needs to do more to establish trust that other domain extensions.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=499083

I've yet to see a .info with under a year registration do anything of significance in Google SERPs. Registering it for more than a few years might help, but I haven't seen any evidence of that yet. If anyone knows any different, I'd like to know.

I have taken a few .info domains from reg to front page in 3 months, but it seems to be a lot harder recently.

**-Nick-** · 08-04-2008, 10:33 AM

In real there is no difference in TLDs but Yes as .infos had been mostly used due to its cheap prices for spam blogs and all other stuff. Maybe it will be harder to rank them. But I still don't want to say for sure that search engines are doing any partiality with TLD. It is just the matter of proving that your .info site is worth it. Which is in any other TLD cases too.

bluearrow · 08-07-2008, 10:40 AM

I don't think Google do any favors to any of those TLDs except if you search in local Google site you might find the ccTLD on top of search result.

thebutler · 08-08-2008, 06:08 PM

Since G seen some many spam .info sites because of the 99 cents reg fees I think that G might have tweaked things in reagrd to domain age for .infos.

priyakochin · 08-12-2008, 12:15 AM

No google is not having any favour towards any domain extensions.
I am having few domains with .info.
It may your problem with SEO.

Timewarp · 08-15-2008, 01:40 PM

There was an incident earlier this year when all .infos disappeared from Google for a couple of days so I would say yes they are penalizing them somewhat.

soggyindo · 08-15-2008, 10:37 PM

you can geotarget your .info to the us, uk or wherever, that might fix your problem.

just working it out myself, but when done i'll let you know

gwkg · 08-24-2008, 02:48 PM

On June 1st, I set up a BANS site (build a niche store) on a .info a .us and a .com.

I added a privacy policy, adsense on all 3.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=499083
I added google analytics on the .info and the .us.
I added no extra content.
I put the .com in a subdirectory.

.info was de-indexed, .us and .com are still indexed.

Even the default root directory page is indexed for the .com, even though there is no conent there (its all in a subdirectory.) The title of the page is Index of / and its still indexed.

For those that don't know, there have been reports of default BANS installs being deindexed from Google, so all 3 of these domains should be considered as having a high risk of being de-indexed.

soggyindo · 08-24-2008, 06:24 PM

it's a good point ^.

out of interest, how many people can name .info (or .tv or .me) site that is at #1 place for a decently searched term? i rarely see it...it would be good to make a list...

gwkg · 09-02-2008, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by soggyindo

out of interest, how many people can name .info (or .tv or .me) site that is at #1 place for a decently searched term? i rarely see it...it would be good to make a list...

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=499083
Spain.info gets to #2 for spain but it has some impressive SEO stats

PR: 7
Google Indexed Pages: 293,000
Yahoo Backlinks: 44,393
Alexa Rank: 20890
Created: 2001
Registered Until: 2017

soggyindo · 09-02-2008, 09:57 AM

thanks for that ^ ! i don't think i'll be coming close to any of those stats for a while soon!

anyone else found any?

+ rep added to gwkg

gwkg · 09-02-2008, 09:03 PM

I came across this one by accident... not the best of keywords but hostip.info is #1 for geo ip lookup

Again the stats are impressive

PR: 7
Google Indexed Pages: 927
Yahoo Backlinks: 176,121
Alexa Rank: 43134
De.licio.us Links: 1799
Registered Since: 2003
Registered Until: 2012

soggyindo · 09-02-2008, 09:55 PM

nice detective work again.

if anyone had alexa know how, i'm sure there's a way to spot the top .infos - and guess, check which keywords they rank for..?

i guess the question after that would be - what's the .info with the lowest stats - that ranks well for a keyword? something like the level we're going to be able to reasonably produce...

angilina · 09-04-2008, 11:35 AM

Domain extensions have nothing to do with SERPs.

Google do not hate or like any specific domain extension.

Domain extension only is considered when talking about geographical search.

How old is your site?

Google give a New Content Boost to new pages and new sites, this boost helps them rank high in search results. But this boost is only temporary.

May be your site was new and had this boost and now when that boost is gone or decreased, your SERPs dropped.

soggyindo · 09-07-2008, 09:07 AM

i've found another one - prchecker.info is #1 for "page rank checker" (at least from where i sit)

gwkg · 09-12-2008, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by angilina

Domain extensions have nothing to do with SERPs.

Maybe its a matter of symantics, but I am 100% sure it is harder to get and keep a .info indexed and/or out of the Google "sandbox" than a .com.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=499083

Once you establish trust for your .info, then maybe it is put back on a level playing field with the rest of the TLDs.

soggyindo · 09-12-2008, 07:30 PM

yes, seeing google reps have said they have been used in the past for SERPs, and there is little evidence of well performing .infos, i'm not sure how they can "prove" that they don't matter?

is it just they "don't think so"? or have they done objective tests with identical names hm?

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08-01-2008, 07:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
soggyindo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ✰$479 sites✰ artistwebsite.org Posts: 1,283	I've heard they do. They place .com/.net/.org and the local ccTLD (.co.uk, .com.au or even .asia and .eu) over .info, .tv, .cc, .ws etc results. The logic is that .tv, .cc, .ws are different places than the US or wherever, and hence show interest to different people. Com, net and org are "universal". It's a bit dated and doesn't make sense for .info I know (info island?). Apparently if you follow the steps taken in Google Webmasters you can recalibrate your .info, .tv etc to "act" like a .com - and hence not suffer any drops in searches. I haven't tried this though - shoot me a PM if you do? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/search-engines/499083-google-on-info.html Also, I'm not too worried (and developing like crazy .infos and .me) because, as more and more good content moves to these extensions, google would be shooting themselves in the business foot not to rank these sites. And they say it's all about delivering the best content to their users. IMHO __________________ Get a top quality domain portfolio, blog, or developed website, from $479. Quote NAMEHUGGER11 for a NamePros only discount. Artist Website \| Contemporary Art Blogs.

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gwkg NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 457	Google definitely looks down at .info, Matt Cutts mentioned it. A .info domain needs to do more to establish trust that other domain extensions. I've yet to see a .info with under a year registration do anything of significance in Google SERPs. Registering it for more than a few years might help, but I haven't seen any evidence of that yet. If anyone knows any different, I'd like to know.

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interestedenough NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 395	I have noticed that it is harder to get your keywords up in the search engines when you have something other than .com than ws for example. However, the competition for keywords that I have for my .com's is lower than that for my .ws's. I've registered some beautiful .ws dictionary words in the hopes that at some point the Search Engines recognize that the country that owns the extension rather have their .ws known as web site than as Western Samoa which isn't even their name anymore.

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thebutler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,229	Maybe age Since G seen some many spam .info sites because of the 99 cents reg fees I think that G might have tweaked things in reagrd to domain age for .infos. __________________ Test Internet Speed - Computer Freezes - Slow Internet SEO in Toronto - Slow computer - Internet speed check DSL speed test help

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Timewarp Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 1,031	There was an incident earlier this year when all .infos disappeared from Google for a couple of days so I would say yes they are penalizing them somewhat. __________________ Established Premium Games Domain For Sale

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soggyindo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ✰$479 sites✰ artistwebsite.org Posts: 1,283	you can geotarget your .info to the us, uk or wherever, that might fix your problem. just working it out myself, but when done i'll let you know __________________ Get a top quality domain portfolio, blog, or developed website, from $479. Quote NAMEHUGGER11 for a NamePros only discount. Artist Website \| Contemporary Art Blogs.

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gwkg NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 457	On June 1st, I set up a BANS site (build a niche store) on a .info a .us and a .com. I added a privacy policy, adsense on all 3. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=499083 I added google analytics on the .info and the .us. I added no extra content. I put the .com in a subdirectory. .info was de-indexed, .us and .com are still indexed. Even the default root directory page is indexed for the .com, even though there is no conent there (its all in a subdirectory.) The title of the page is Index of / and its still indexed. For those that don't know, there have been reports of default BANS installs being deindexed from Google, so all 3 of these domains should be considered as having a high risk of being de-indexed. Last edited by gwkg; 08-24-2008 at 02:53 PM.

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soggyindo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ✰$479 sites✰ artistwebsite.org Posts: 1,283	it's a good point ^. out of interest, how many people can name .info (or .tv or .me) site that is at #1 place for a decently searched term? i rarely see it...it would be good to make a list... __________________ Get a top quality domain portfolio, blog, or developed website, from $479. Quote NAMEHUGGER11 for a NamePros only discount. Artist Website \| Contemporary Art Blogs.

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gwkg NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 457	I came across this one by accident... not the best of keywords but hostip.info is #1 for geo ip lookup Again the stats are impressive PR: 7 Google Indexed Pages: 927 Yahoo Backlinks: 176,121 Alexa Rank: 43134 De.licio.us Links: 1799 Registered Since: 2003 Registered Until: 2012

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soggyindo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ✰$479 sites✰ artistwebsite.org Posts: 1,283	nice detective work again. if anyone had alexa know how, i'm sure there's a way to spot the top .infos - and guess, check which keywords they rank for..? i guess the question after that would be - what's the .info with the lowest stats - that ranks well for a keyword? something like the level we're going to be able to reasonably produce... __________________ Get a top quality domain portfolio, blog, or developed website, from $479. Quote NAMEHUGGER11 for a NamePros only discount. Artist Website \| Contemporary Art Blogs.

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angilina NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 467	Domain extensions have nothing to do with SERPs. Google do not hate or like any specific domain extension. Domain extension only is considered when talking about geographical search. How old is your site? Google give a New Content Boost to new pages and new sites, this boost helps them rank high in search results. But this boost is only temporary. May be your site was new and had this boost and now when that boost is gone or decreased, your SERPs dropped.

09-07-2008, 09:07 AM	#22 (permalink)
soggyindo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ✰$479 sites✰ artistwebsite.org Posts: 1,283	i've found another one - prchecker.info is #1 for "page rank checker" (at least from where i sit) __________________ Get a top quality domain portfolio, blog, or developed website, from $479. Quote NAMEHUGGER11 for a NamePros only discount. Artist Website \| Contemporary Art Blogs.

09-12-2008, 07:30 PM	#24 (permalink)
soggyindo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ✰$479 sites✰ artistwebsite.org Posts: 1,283	yes, seeing google reps have said they have been used in the past for SERPs, and there is little evidence of well performing .infos, i'm not sure how they can "prove" that they don't matter? is it just they "don't think so"? or have they done objective tests with identical names hm? __________________ Get a top quality domain portfolio, blog, or developed website, from $479. Quote NAMEHUGGER11 for a NamePros only discount. Artist Website \| Contemporary Art Blogs.

Google on .info

Maybe age