question about redirection

freelancewell · 08-15-2005, 08:44 PM

Hi ,

i need your help for my issue please:

- ihave a website which is PR5
-I bought a website (busy one PR4)

i don like the name of the site i bought and i have a better one to use .

I will forward both sites to the new domain name , what will happen in this case ?

-To the PR ?
-To the links in search engine?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/search-engines/115945-question-about-redirection.html

The final design will be similar to the PR4 site with some changes .

What will happen to the engines backlinks to the sites ?

both sites will still be registered..

is is better if i host these sites and forward them to the new domain ?

or is it better to forward them on the registrar basis ?

any idea how to manage without dropping on the SE ranks ?

thanks

Thanks

googlebot · 08-17-2005, 04:27 PM

I think if u just put a redirection page on ur old site whose name u dont like to forward to ur new site . Users will start coming to ur new site and most probably ur new site will get indexed also. so that might be one of the solution.

Jim_Westergren · 08-17-2005, 04:53 PM

You have to use 301 redirect. That will transfer both visitors, backlinks and PageRank.

The easiest is in .htaccess:

This will transfer from old domain to new one:

Code:

Redirect 301 / http://www.newdomain.com

This will transfer from old domain a directory in new domain:

Code:

Redirect 301 / http://www.newdomain.com/newdir/

Let me know if you have any questions. You can also e-mail me for help.

aween · 08-17-2005, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Jim_Westergren

You have to use 301 redirect. That will transfer both visitors, backlinks and PageRank.

The easiest is in .htaccess:

This will transfer from old domain to new one:

Code:

Redirect 301 / http://www.newdomain.com

This will transfer from old domain a directory in new domain:

Code:

Redirect 301 / http://www.newdomain.com/newdir/

Let me know if you have any questions. You can also e-mail me for help.

i'm sorry to dissapoint you, but google has forbidden this technique, which even could lead you been banned for ever from google SE's.

but if you are willing to take that chance, go ahead

Jim_Westergren · 08-17-2005, 06:04 PM

On what are you basing your statement?

Mine is based on maybe 30 advices from SEO savvy webmasters on forums, maybe 10 articles AND recommendations from GoogleGuy (Google representative).

Just by Googling for 2 min I get this:
-------
A 301 redirect is the most efficient and spider/visitor friendly strategy around for web sites that are hosted on servers running Apache
http://www.tamingthebeast.net/articl...1-redirect.htm

301 redirect is the most efficient and Search Engine Friendly method for webpage redirection. It's not that hard to implement and it should preserve your search engine rankings for that particular page. If you have to change file names or move pages around, it's the safest option. The code "301" is interpreted as "moved permanently".
http://www.webconfs.com/how-to-redirect-a-webpage.php

If you need to move a page or a whole website, a 301 redirect is always recommended. If you just change a file name or delete a page, you my lose search engine rankings that were associated with the old page. By using a 301 redirect, you tell search engines and humans where to find the new page.
http://www.internetbasedmoms.com/seo/301-redirect.html

A 301 Redirect as it is commonly referred to will allow you to make these changes without compromising your hard earned SEO results.
http://www.gnc-web-creations.com/301-redirect.htm

The standard recommends to use a 301 redirect when a page has been permanently moved.
http://www.internetofficer.com/301-redirect.html

You've just redesigned some pages of your web site. The pages have high search engine rankings that you don't want to lose. How can you safely redirect web site traffic from your old pages to the new pages without losing your rankings? You can do this by using a " 301 redirect "
http://www.isitebuild.com/301-redirect.htm
-----------

Perhaps you meant meta refresh? Or Javascript redirection? If you did, then yes that is true. Both those methods are NOT recommended and yes maybe you could even be banned but this I don't know.

bentong · 08-17-2005, 11:18 PM

you can add this on your htaccess file

Code:

RewriteEngine on 
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.yourdomain\.com [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*) http://www.yourdomain.com/$1 [L,R=301]

Jim_Westergren · 08-18-2005, 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by bentong

you can add this on your htaccess file

Code:

RewriteEngine on 
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.yourdomain\.com [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*) http://www.yourdomain.com/$1 [L,R=301]

Exactly. That is another method of 301 redirect.

netPH · 08-18-2005, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by xlusive

i'm sorry to dissapoint you, but google has forbidden this technique, which even could lead you been banned for ever from google SE's.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=115945
but if you are willing to take that chance, go ahead

Maybe he meant by cloaking... 301 ain't cloaking and it's OK with G AFAIK

aween · 08-18-2005, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by netPH

Maybe he meant by cloaking... 301 ain't cloaking and it's OK with G AFAIK

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=115945
What i meant is: 301 technique is also used for redirecting the site to google and then you get that PR that google has. and therefor google has banned that technique and you get deleted if they notice it.

Jim_Westergren · 08-18-2005, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by xlusive

What i meant is: 301 technique is also used for redirecting the site to google and then you get that PR that google has. and therefor google has banned that technique and you get deleted if they notice it.

Yeah that is a different thing. If you 301 redirect to Google you will be sent to Google when coming to the site.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=115945

301 redirection, other than this, is the only proper way of doing it.

freelancewell · 08-18-2005, 06:59 PM

thanks a lot guys for the help .

actually iwll be redirecting 2 sites 1 PR 5 and 1 PR 4 with around 200,000 backlinks to a totally new domain .

i hope by using the 301 redirect i can gain back all the links and PR .

it will be interesting to see the results , although i am a bit worried ....

Jim_Westergren · 08-18-2005, 07:02 PM

Please PM me when you have done it so that I can check so it is alright.

rehash · 08-19-2005, 08:12 AM

you will not get back your link popularity, you may get it only if you redirect a single website and if it has the same thematic.

08-15-2005, 08:44 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
freelancewell NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 45	question about redirection Hi , i need your help for my issue please: - ihave a website which is PR5 -I bought a website (busy one PR4) i don like the name of the site i bought and i have a better one to use . I will forward both sites to the new domain name , what will happen in this case ? -To the PR ? -To the links in search engine? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/search-engines/115945-question-about-redirection.html The final design will be similar to the PR4 site with some changes . What will happen to the engines backlinks to the sites ? both sites will still be registered.. is is better if i host these sites and forward them to the new domain ? or is it better to forward them on the registrar basis ? any idea how to manage without dropping on the SE ranks ? thanks Thanks

08-17-2005, 04:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jim_Westergren NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 733 Follow @JimWestergren	You have to use 301 redirect. That will transfer both visitors, backlinks and PageRank. The easiest is in .htaccess: This will transfer from old domain to new one: Code: Redirect 301 / http://www.newdomain.com This will transfer from old domain a directory in new domain: Code: Redirect 301 / http://www.newdomain.com/newdir/ Let me know if you have any questions. You can also e-mail me for help. __________________ Jim Westergren www.JimWestergren.com / Free website with N.nu

08-17-2005, 06:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jim_Westergren NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 733 Follow @JimWestergren	On what are you basing your statement? Mine is based on maybe 30 advices from SEO savvy webmasters on forums, maybe 10 articles AND recommendations from GoogleGuy (Google representative). Just by Googling for 2 min I get this: ------- A 301 redirect is the most efficient and spider/visitor friendly strategy around for web sites that are hosted on servers running Apache http://www.tamingthebeast.net/articl...1-redirect.htm 301 redirect is the most efficient and Search Engine Friendly method for webpage redirection. It's not that hard to implement and it should preserve your search engine rankings for that particular page. If you have to change file names or move pages around, it's the safest option. The code "301" is interpreted as "moved permanently". http://www.webconfs.com/how-to-redirect-a-webpage.php If you need to move a page or a whole website, a 301 redirect is always recommended. If you just change a file name or delete a page, you my lose search engine rankings that were associated with the old page. By using a 301 redirect, you tell search engines and humans where to find the new page. http://www.internetbasedmoms.com/seo/301-redirect.html A 301 Redirect as it is commonly referred to will allow you to make these changes without compromising your hard earned SEO results. http://www.gnc-web-creations.com/301-redirect.htm The standard recommends to use a 301 redirect when a page has been permanently moved. http://www.internetofficer.com/301-redirect.html You've just redesigned some pages of your web site. The pages have high search engine rankings that you don't want to lose. How can you safely redirect web site traffic from your old pages to the new pages without losing your rankings? You can do this by using a " 301 redirect " http://www.isitebuild.com/301-redirect.htm ----------- Perhaps you meant meta refresh? Or Javascript redirection? If you did, then yes that is true. Both those methods are NOT recommended and yes maybe you could even be banned but this I don't know. __________________ Jim Westergren www.JimWestergren.com / Free website with N.nu

08-17-2005, 11:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
bentong Hari ng Sablay Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,527	you can add this on your htaccess file Code: RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.yourdomain\.com [NC] RewriteRule ^(.*) http://www.yourdomain.com/$1 [L,R=301]

08-18-2005, 07:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jim_Westergren NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 733 Follow @JimWestergren	Please PM me when you have done it so that I can check so it is alright. __________________ Jim Westergren www.JimWestergren.com / Free website with N.nu

08-17-2005, 04:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
googlebot Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8	I think if u just put a redirection page on ur old site whose name u dont like to forward to ur new site . Users will start coming to ur new site and most probably ur new site will get indexed also. so that might be one of the solution.

08-18-2005, 06:59 PM	THREAD STARTER #11 (permalink)
freelancewell NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 45	thanks a lot guys for the help . actually iwll be redirecting 2 sites 1 PR 5 and 1 PR 4 with around 200,000 backlinks to a totally new domain . i hope by using the 301 redirect i can gain back all the links and PR . it will be interesting to see the results , although i am a bit worried ....

08-19-2005, 08:12 AM	#13 (permalink)
rehash NamePros Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 85	you will not get back your link popularity, you may get it only if you redirect a single website and if it has the same thematic. __________________ web directory free sms portal quotes db

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