[advanced search]
 

Go Back   NamePros.com > Discussion > Web Design & Development > Programming

Programming PHP, Perl, Ruby on Rails, AJAX, HTML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript, MySQL and any other coding topics.


Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-27-2006, 09:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
NamePros Regular
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 732
8.00 NP$ (Donate)

kslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of light


Can we track referer of referer?

Hello

DOes anyone know if we can track the referer of referer?

Like, i have mysite.com to be redirected to funnypage.com

i know that if i track the referer from funnypage.com, it would be mysite.com, right?

so, my question, can we track the referer of mysite.com?

may be it came from google.com --> mysite.com --> funnypage.com.

can we do it?

Thanks in advance.
__________________
:alien: --> 21 LLL.US for sale; Take a look. <-- :alien:
kslup_k is online now  
Old 06-27-2006, 09:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
NamePros Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 507
175.80 NP$ (Donate)

deadmoon will become famous soon enoughdeadmoon will become famous soon enough


Not really. Unless mysite.com sends the referer of that, to funnypage.com (something such as funnypage.com/?originalreferer=http://google.com/search...etc)
__________________
deadmoon is offline  
Old 06-27-2006, 10:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
NamePros Regular
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 732
8.00 NP$ (Donate)

kslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of light


Quote:
Originally Posted by deadmoon
Not really. Unless mysite.com sends the referer of that, to funnypage.com (something such as funnypage.com/?originalreferer=http://google.com/search...etc)

No, i dont think it has funnypage.com/?originalreferer=http://google.com/search..

Is there any way?
I am suspecting that we can do it, but i just dontknow how to.
__________________
:alien: --> 21 LLL.US for sale; Take a look. <-- :alien:
kslup_k is online now  
Old 06-27-2006, 10:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
NamePros Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 507
175.80 NP$ (Donate)

deadmoon will become famous soon enoughdeadmoon will become famous soon enough


no i wasn't saying that it is funnypage.com/?orig..., im saying thats the only way, esp if theyre ondifferent servers tbh. I take it only one site is yours??
__________________
deadmoon is offline  
Old 06-27-2006, 10:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
NamePros Regular
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 732
8.00 NP$ (Donate)

kslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of light


mysite.com belongs to me. and the first domain is mine too.

but google.com (LOL) and funnypage.com are not mine

I had this question all over my head for the past week. So, i decided to tried it with my friend's help. I "supposed" that this CANNOT be done.

So, i offer him $20 if he can show me that this can be done. and he did.

but he still doesnt want to show me how to do it.!
__________________
:alien: --> 21 LLL.US for sale; Take a look. <-- :alien:
kslup_k is online now  
Old 06-27-2006, 10:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
NamePros Regular
 
Jim_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 585
285.40 NP$ (Donate)

Jim_ is a name known to allJim_ is a name known to allJim_ is a name known to allJim_ is a name known to allJim_ is a name known to allJim_ is a name known to all

Save The Children
Unless you can get funnypage to send you their referrer information, it's not possible.
__________________
ask me about the internet
Jim_ is offline  
Old 06-27-2006, 10:30 AM   #7 (permalink)
NamePros Regular
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 732
8.00 NP$ (Donate)

kslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of light


Quoted from Wikipedia

"Dereferer

Since a web server and site can log where visitors have apparently arrived from (ie the page which was clicked to reach the page they are loading), there are a number of dereferer services, which allow web pages to link to others without giving meaningful referer information. An example of a derefered link using a common dereferer service is:

* http://ultimod.org/?url=http://en.wikipedia.org/

In the above example, your browser first goes to the ultimod.org site and then is redirected to en.wikipedia.org. To the wikipedia server, it appears that the referer was on ultimod.org, not on this page which would normally be considered the referring page.
[edit]

"
__________________
:alien: --> 21 LLL.US for sale; Take a look. <-- :alien:
kslup_k is online now  
Old 06-28-2006, 09:03 AM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
ahtum's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,266
1,620.58 NP$ (Donate)

ahtum has much to be proud ofahtum has much to be proud ofahtum has much to be proud ofahtum has much to be proud ofahtum has much to be proud ofahtum has much to be proud ofahtum has much to be proud ofahtum has much to be proud ofahtum has much to be proud ofahtum has much to be proud of

Ethan Allen Fund Find Marrow Donors!
hmm <?php header("location:funnypage.com"); ?> put this on mysite.com and on funnypage.com you`ll see the refer as from google

Last edited by ahtum; 06-28-2006 at 09:09 AM.
ahtum is offline  
Old 06-28-2006, 07:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
BillyConnite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Coffs H, Australia
Posts: 3,107
47.00 NP$ (Donate)

BillyConnite has a brilliant futureBillyConnite has a brilliant futureBillyConnite has a brilliant futureBillyConnite has a brilliant futureBillyConnite has a brilliant futureBillyConnite has a brilliant futureBillyConnite has a brilliant futureBillyConnite has a brilliant futureBillyConnite has a brilliant futureBillyConnite has a brilliant futureBillyConnite has a brilliant future

Wildlife Parkinson's Disease Parkinson's Disease
Hey kslup_k,

You CANNOT track the referer of a referer. If you owned 3 websites, and you wanted to track referering from one to another, that's possible, but you cannot get the referer of a 3rd website.

If a person were to go to: Google.com > somewebsite.com > yourwebsite.com

You could only get the referer 'somewebsite.com', you could never get 'google.com' unless ofcourse you owned the website 'somewebsite.com' then you could pass the referer 'google.com' on to the next website in hidden data.

So the short answer: No.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kslup_k
So, i offer him $20 if he can show me that this can be done. and he did.

but he still doesnt want to show me how to do it.!
Your friend must have 'tricked' you , either he owned all the websites he was using as referers, or he did something else fake lol

All the best,
Rhett.
__________________
<?php if(1===1){ $computer="fine."; }else{ $computer="broken."; } echo "Your computer is ".$computer; ?>
BillyConnite is offline  
Old 07-02-2006, 08:15 PM   #10 (permalink)
NamePros Regular
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 732
8.00 NP$ (Donate)

kslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of lightkslup_k is a glorious beacon of light


I think i must have worded it wrongly and some misunderstanding between my friend and me.

Billy, you are right about your previous post.

There is no way we can track according to Billy's post, and i agree with that.
However, here is a trick that cost me $20.

From google.com -> somepage.com AND that somepage.com is redirected to funnypage.com

and guess what, the referer from funnypage.com would show google.com

i didnot referer worked like that, and apparently he does.

I hope i cleared this mess up.
__________________
:alien: --> 21 LLL.US for sale; Take a look. <-- :alien:

Last edited by kslup_k; 07-02-2006 at 08:15 PM. Reason: Bold to redirected
kslup_k is online now  
Closed Thread


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Site Sponsors
Advertise your business at NamePros

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:34 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0
Template-Modifications by TMS
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85