Do you think CSS is worth programming???

thomaslgates · 10-30-2005, 09:48 AM

How many of you in here think that CSS is worth???

If yes, why?
If no, why?

I think CSS is worth. I will giv you the reason after you guys reply to this thread..!

Put up all yer reasons..

theparrot · 10-30-2005, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomaslgates

How many of you in here think that CSS is worth programming???

If yes, why?
If no, why?

I think CSS is worth. I will giv you the reason after you guys reply to this thread..!

Put up all yer reasons..

not sure what you mean? If you are writing a program to parse and display html you should include css these days.

If you mean use css, then yes. You do not program in CSS though, as neither it nor html are programming languages.

adam_uk · 10-30-2005, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomaslgates

How many of you in here think that CSS is worth???

If yes, why?
If no, why?

I think CSS is worth. I will giv you the reason after you guys reply to this thread..!

Put up all yer reasons..

anyone that says no to this to be honest needs there head testing

anyone that doesnt use css when building and styling there pages are just asking for trouble because you can bet your house on it that there code will be big, slwo to render, full of tables, repeating and not at all search engine freindly

css is the way foward, using tables in layouts is a thing of past now imho

deadserious · 10-30-2005, 11:14 AM

I use CSS in every Website whether it has tables or not. But what's your reason?

Immersion · 10-30-2005, 11:34 AM

Css is a must! You cant have a decent site without css. I personally like sites coded in css not tables. I dont know why and dont ask me

Sites without css would be bland and just plain boring. Also it is a good way to edit text when you have jsut made the tables all wrong :P

dre · 10-30-2005, 11:45 AM

why are table bad? you can still use CSS and table, its not all about divs, even google uses tables

Immersion · 10-30-2005, 12:06 PM

i didnt say tables were bad, i jsut dont personally like them as much. I think css sites are jsut better. I really dont know why. My mind works in mysterious ways.

mholt · 10-30-2005, 12:20 PM

CSS is processed faster and is more customizable/compatible. I love CSS

But am not very good at it.

Immersion · 10-30-2005, 12:31 PM

It isnt necesarily compatible. You get all the problems with ie and safari and fire fox all showing it different if it is not done right. Especially with whole css layouts. Theres bound to be something wrong.

mholt · 10-30-2005, 12:46 PM

Well that's cause Micro$oft thought they were better than everyone so they made up their own rules for CSS.

Immersion · 10-30-2005, 12:54 PM

i Know i find that really stupid. I hope they fix that in ie7. Everyone go to firefox!!! Why did microsoft have to try being differnet it jsut messes everything up.

mholt · 10-30-2005, 01:15 PM

Over 100 million HAVE downloaded firefox. Frankly, I hope they DON'T in IE7... it wouldn't fix much

Immersion · 10-30-2005, 01:16 PM

thats a good point. I hope everyone uses firefox! wouldnt like be great :P

brianmn · 10-30-2005, 01:25 PM

I think css is very nice because of its compatability. And as for getting it to work in IE all you have to do is validate the css code and it'll work about 90% of the time. The times it doesn't you just have to find work arounds to fix it.

thomaslgates · 10-31-2005, 02:08 AM

I can tell you guys that CSS are really useful as they help in the enhancement of websites..!

As far as I am concerned, even the big websites like Yahoo and MSN use CSS but they use internal CSS and not external. As you see these CSS helps in changing a look of a website and thus saving more space.

Immersion · 10-31-2005, 02:18 AM

What do you mean even big sites. All big sites have to use css. Its like a must have. Otherwise it would be so boring to view their site. ALso anything like borders will be done in css changing their colours and such.

Bebito · 11-01-2005, 01:25 AM

I just made my first website without any tables only css based. But how can i check how it looks in firefox without have firefox installed on the PC. Because i heared that when you use XHTML (css) it can be messed up in Firefox and looks ok in IE. Is there an online firefox validator to see if there are any misstakes.

My first website with css and no tables : www.ipodnew.com

Thanks to advise

Immersion · 11-01-2005, 09:43 AM

ill ahve you know that sites look ok when designed in firefox and messed up in ie most of the time. This is because microsoft decided to make their own css rules. If you give me the link ill look at it and such to see if its ok. I use firefox like many.

iDev · 11-01-2005, 10:10 AM

The biggest benefit that I see in CSS is that it reduces site maintenance while increasing site flexibility. Styles can be defined outside of the html file and thus updating the style in one place will update the style (formatting) on all your pages.

jmweb · 11-02-2005, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compuXP

CSS is processed faster and is more customizable/compatible. I love CSS

But am not very good at it.

Dito me too!

puzzlebox · 11-02-2005, 09:10 AM

I love CSS. but I still use tables.

it's better to have the right kind of blend in everything..

italks · 11-02-2005, 12:52 PM

I just Love CSS and just like puzzlebox i still use tables for some of my website.

Immersion · 11-02-2005, 02:07 PM

yeah tables are still god but you need a mixture of both.

Coolprogram · 11-02-2005, 03:56 PM

Of course, because you can do so much with css. you can do the same stuff almost with HTML but it takes a lot more coding. And morework. so i say Yes! two thumbs up.
-Coolprogram

sm · 11-03-2005, 05:54 AM

smaller files sizes, faster load times, low website maintenance overheads, single repository of all page level style rules, and a more methodical and forwards compatible approach to designing web pages are all important factors as to why every webmaster needs to use some (or a lot of) CSS these days.

Think of HTML as a fixed-tag variation of XML.. that is a markup language with elements that define a document structure and/or hierarchy, and CSS as a flexible, easy-to-change way of styling these elements

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thomaslgates Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: India Posts: 672 169.75 NP$ (Donate)	Do you think CSS is worth??? How many of you in here think that CSS is worth??? If yes, why? If no, why? I think CSS is worth. I will giv you the reason after you guys reply to this thread..! Put up all yer reasons.. Last edited by thomaslgates; 10-30-2005 at 11:10 AM.

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mholt DNOA Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Utah Posts: 5,041 18.01 NP$ (Donate)	Well that's cause Micro$oft thought they were better than everyone so they made up their own rules for CSS. __________________ codeboards A high-quality community of programmers -- Join today and post! We want new members!

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deadserious Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,300 2.85 NP$ (Donate)	I use CSS in every Website whether it has tables or not. But what's your reason?

10-30-2005, 11:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
Immersion NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 231 223.75 NP$ (Donate)	Css is a must! You cant have a decent site without css. I personally like sites coded in css not tables. I dont know why and dont ask me Sites without css would be bland and just plain boring. Also it is a good way to edit text when you have jsut made the tables all wrong :P

10-30-2005, 12:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Immersion NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 231 223.75 NP$ (Donate)	i didnt say tables were bad, i jsut dont personally like them as much. I think css sites are jsut better. I really dont know why. My mind works in mysterious ways.

10-30-2005, 12:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Immersion NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 231 223.75 NP$ (Donate)	It isnt necesarily compatible. You get all the problems with ie and safari and fire fox all showing it different if it is not done right. Especially with whole css layouts. Theres bound to be something wrong.

10-30-2005, 12:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
Immersion NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 231 223.75 NP$ (Donate)	i Know i find that really stupid. I hope they fix that in ie7. Everyone go to firefox!!! Why did microsoft have to try being differnet it jsut messes everything up.

10-30-2005, 01:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
Immersion NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 231 223.75 NP$ (Donate)	thats a good point. I hope everyone uses firefox! wouldnt like be great :P

10-30-2005, 01:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
brianmn NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 174 52.70 NP$ (Donate)	I think css is very nice because of its compatability. And as for getting it to work in IE all you have to do is validate the css code and it'll work about 90% of the time. The times it doesn't you just have to find work arounds to fix it.

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thomaslgates Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: India Posts: 672 169.75 NP$ (Donate)	I can tell you guys that CSS are really useful as they help in the enhancement of websites..! As far as I am concerned, even the big websites like Yahoo and MSN use CSS but they use internal CSS and not external. As you see these CSS helps in changing a look of a website and thus saving more space.

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Immersion NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 231 223.75 NP$ (Donate)	What do you mean even big sites. All big sites have to use css. Its like a must have. Otherwise it would be so boring to view their site. ALso anything like borders will be done in css changing their colours and such. Last edited by Immersion; 11-01-2005 at 09:41 AM.

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Bebito NamePros Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 73 48.00 NP$ (Donate)	I just made my first website without any tables only css based. But how can i check how it looks in firefox without have firefox installed on the PC. Because i heared that when you use XHTML (css) it can be messed up in Firefox and looks ok in IE. Is there an online firefox validator to see if there are any misstakes. My first website with css and no tables : www.ipodnew.com Thanks to advise __________________ My Blog

11-01-2005, 09:43 AM	#18 (permalink)
Immersion NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 231 223.75 NP$ (Donate)	ill ahve you know that sites look ok when designed in firefox and messed up in ie most of the time. This is because microsoft decided to make their own css rules. If you give me the link ill look at it and such to see if its ok. I use firefox like many.

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iDev NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Seattle, USA Posts: 238 2,090.00 NP$ (Donate)	The biggest benefit that I see in CSS is that it reduces site maintenance while increasing site flexibility. Styles can be defined outside of the html file and thus updating the style in one place will update the style (formatting) on all your pages.

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puzzlebox New Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2 4.00 NP$ (Donate)	I love CSS. but I still use tables. it's better to have the right kind of blend in everything..

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italks NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Delhi,India Posts: 390 105.00 NP$ (Donate)	I just Love CSS and just like puzzlebox i still use tables for some of my website. __________________ CafeDesi - A Desi Discussion Forum

11-02-2005, 02:07 PM	#23 (permalink)
Immersion NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 231 223.75 NP$ (Donate)	yeah tables are still god but you need a mixture of both.

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Coolprogram NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 655 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Of course, because you can do so much with css. you can do the same stuff almost with HTML but it takes a lot more coding. And morework. so i say Yes! two thumbs up. -Coolprogram

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sm NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: India Posts: 608 138.45 NP$ (Donate)	smaller files sizes, faster load times, low website maintenance overheads, single repository of all page level style rules, and a more methodical and forwards compatible approach to designing web pages are all important factors as to why every webmaster needs to use some (or a lot of) CSS these days. Think of HTML as a fixed-tag variation of XML.. that is a markup language with elements that define a document structure and/or hierarchy, and CSS as a flexible, easy-to-change way of styling these elements

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