EPN Quality Click Pricing - Success or Failure?

Billy! · 10-02-2009, 03:39 AM

The Ebay Partner Network Quality Click Pricing started today - I know it is early, but are you reporting a increase or a decrease oin your Earnings?

As of Day 1 for me, it is a complete failure. I have earned ZILCH and ZERO

Day 1 one last I earned $29, with the old EPN system.

I just hope I am panicking for no reason.

enlytend · 10-02-2009, 04:40 AM

See my comments in this thread. I think there are quite a few affiliates who will be getting the short end of the stick under the new system.

My report also shows 0 for day 1 - which is weird, because I had clicks and I thought that this would pick up from the estimated click pricing from the previous month. But perhaps because it's just starting "for real" now, they start you out at zero and don't set a click price until there's a sale?

(In case you couldn't tell, I'm not a fan!)

Billy! · 10-02-2009, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by enlytend

See my comments in this thread. I think there are quite a few affiliates who will be getting the short end of the stick under the new system.

My report also shows 0 for day 1 - which is weird, because I had clicks and I thought that this would pick up from the estimated click pricing from the previous month. But perhaps because it's just starting "for real" now, they start you out at zero and don't set a click price until there's a sale?

(In case you couldn't tell, I'm not a fan!)

I can't afford to lose $500 a month I am currently averaging from EPN.

I feel EPN introduced this new system, because they were losing too much money due to the payouts they were giving.

Lets hope we are wrong.

enlytend · 10-02-2009, 06:22 AM

eBay is only a small part of my business model (more like ~300/month) so I don't have quite THAT much to lose, but still cutting it in half or by 2/3 (as the preview reports suggest) would be obnoxious! Especially since I'm doing everything they recommend doing quality-wise, I'm just not sending them a LOT of traffic or a steady stream of bidders. It's the chicken and the egg - I *could* put more focus on them, but in light of their history I really don't *want* to.

Here's two of us hoping ...

Billy! · 10-02-2009, 07:44 AM

Keep us informed how you go.

SpareDomains · 10-02-2009, 02:45 PM

The preview tool showed me I should get about a 500% jump in earnings this month, day #1 looked damn good at about 2000% increase, have to wait and see how day #2 and the rest of the month shapes up but if it stays anywhere near their estimate of a 500% increase I will be very happy, have to update at the end of the month as I don't wanna get too happy after 1 day.

teatime · 10-02-2009, 06:10 PM

Seeing an increase here.

Billy! · 10-05-2009, 05:22 AM

Anyone noticed a decrease or increase in earnings since to new qcp has started?

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thebutler · 10-05-2009, 06:08 PM

I have one site generating most of my traffic. Earnings will likely be down becausse I was getting a few big days every month with the old system. My preview/comparision for Sept confirms that. I think some people will be taking a huge hit. Anyone attracting a very small amount of high quality traffic should be worried.

enlytend · 10-06-2009, 09:37 AM

Thebutler - it Sounds like you and I are in the same boat

- big sales, quality traffic, but not a lot of it? As I expected from the preview reports, my earnings are down.

I'm looking for ways to replace them - doable for some things, unfortunately not so for others ... Or I could put together a site or two to push the kind of sales they want, but honestly I'm not feeling too motivated to spend my time on them. This is two compensation model changes in how long? When's the next one

???

SpareDomains · 10-06-2009, 02:47 PM

At the close of day #6 it appears I will have passed what I made all last month so the estimate that I will make 500% more on this new system seems about right, the products I am promoting vary across about 30+ product niches currently, I am not selling anything as expensive as cars like you guys describe seeing the bad reports on however.

namebug · 10-29-2009, 07:46 PM

I did better under the old regime. Surprised there isn't more squawking about this.

Billy! · 10-30-2009, 06:44 PM

Earnings are down $200 compared to last month. The new EPN really sucks.

umxca · 10-30-2009, 08:05 PM

Hi I just started with EPN so I have nothing to report, but I do have a couple of questions if anyone can help:

1) I had someone click through one of my sites that bid on and won an auction for $76.00. Is .41 cents too low of a commission?

2) Also am I eligible for future commissions from this person if he/she is already an ebayer with prior auction wins?

thx

.X. · 10-30-2009, 09:14 PM

My decrease is minimal so far, Around 0.01 .

enlytend · 10-31-2009, 02:35 AM

I've had a couple of decent sized sales and steadier smaller sales than usual, so it isn't quite the bloodbath my September report predicted - the last few days my per-click has been in the $0.40's, which helped make up some ground.

Nevertheless it's about 50% of what I would have made under the old system

!

43 cents for a $76 sale is a little over 1/2 percent. Hard to compare this to traditional PPC or CPA programs, but as an affiliate I wouldn't even consider promoting a "normal" affiliate program offering that low a rate.

In this program you really have to look at how much you're getting per click over time, not just one day.

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10-02-2009, 04:40 AM	#2 (permalink)
enlytend Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,466 289.90 NP$ (Donate)	See my comments in this thread. I think there are quite a few affiliates who will be getting the short end of the stick under the new system. My report also shows 0 for day 1 - which is weird, because I had clicks and I thought that this would pick up from the estimated click pricing from the previous month. But perhaps because it's just starting "for real" now, they start you out at zero and don't set a click price until there's a sale? (In case you couldn't tell, I'm not a fan!) __________________ Enlytend Solutions - SEO/SEM/Web development specializing in local business marketing Was my advice helpful? Please consider a small donation to the National Canine Cancer Foundation - they directly fund promising research, and it's tax deductible (503(c))

10-02-2009, 06:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
enlytend Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,466 289.90 NP$ (Donate)	eBay is only a small part of my business model (more like ~300/month) so I don't have quite THAT much to lose, but still cutting it in half or by 2/3 (as the preview reports suggest) would be obnoxious! Especially since I'm doing everything they recommend doing quality-wise, I'm just not sending them a LOT of traffic or a steady stream of bidders. It's the chicken and the egg - I could put more focus on them, but in light of their history I really don't want to. Here's two of us hoping ... __________________ Enlytend Solutions - SEO/SEM/Web development specializing in local business marketing Was my advice helpful? Please consider a small donation to the National Canine Cancer Foundation - they directly fund promising research, and it's tax deductible (503(c))

10-02-2009, 07:44 AM	THREAD STARTER #5 (permalink)
Billy! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Perth > Western Australia Posts: 1,283 25.00 NP$ (Donate)	Keep us informed how you go. __________________ Rural Classifieds \| Depression Forum \| Lost Treasure \| Rain Calendar \| Beaut Utes \| My Domains

10-02-2009, 02:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
SpareDomains DNOA Founding Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,367 0.06 NP$ (Donate)	The preview tool showed me I should get about a 500% jump in earnings this month, day #1 looked damn good at about 2000% increase, have to wait and see how day #2 and the rest of the month shapes up but if it stays anywhere near their estimate of a 500% increase I will be very happy, have to update at the end of the month as I don't wanna get too happy after 1 day. Last edited by SpareDomains; 10-02-2009 at 03:18 PM.

10-02-2009, 06:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
teatime NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 323 541.00 NP$ (Donate)	Seeing an increase here. __________________ Dividend Stocks \|\| Solar Motion Sensor Lights \|\| Equipo Sonido \|\| Undercabinet TVs \|\| 1080p TVs

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Billy! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Perth > Western Australia Posts: 1,283 25.00 NP$ (Donate)	Anyone noticed a decrease or increase in earnings since to new qcp has started? __________________ Rural Classifieds \| Depression Forum \| Lost Treasure \| Rain Calendar \| Beaut Utes \| My Domains

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10-05-2009, 06:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
thebutler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,081 593.84 NP$ (Donate)	Those big sales are gone I have one site generating most of my traffic. Earnings will likely be down becausse I was getting a few big days every month with the old system. My preview/comparision for Sept confirms that. I think some people will be taking a huge hit. Anyone attracting a very small amount of high quality traffic should be worried. __________________ Test Internet Speed - Computer Freezes - Slow Internet Best site hosting - Slow computer - Internet speed check B4 - B5 - B7

10-06-2009, 09:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
enlytend Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,466 289.90 NP$ (Donate)	Thebutler - it Sounds like you and I are in the same boat - big sales, quality traffic, but not a lot of it? As I expected from the preview reports, my earnings are down. I'm looking for ways to replace them - doable for some things, unfortunately not so for others ... Or I could put together a site or two to push the kind of sales they want, but honestly I'm not feeling too motivated to spend my time on them. This is two compensation model changes in how long? When's the next one ??? __________________ Enlytend Solutions - SEO/SEM/Web development specializing in local business marketing Was my advice helpful? Please consider a small donation to the National Canine Cancer Foundation - they directly fund promising research, and it's tax deductible (503(c))

10-06-2009, 02:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
SpareDomains DNOA Founding Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,367 0.06 NP$ (Donate)	At the close of day #6 it appears I will have passed what I made all last month so the estimate that I will make 500% more on this new system seems about right, the products I am promoting vary across about 30+ product niches currently, I am not selling anything as expensive as cars like you guys describe seeing the bad reports on however.

10-29-2009, 07:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
namebug NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 356 85.85 NP$ (Donate)	I did better under the old regime. Surprised there isn't more squawking about this.

10-30-2009, 06:44 PM	THREAD STARTER #14 (permalink)
Billy! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Perth > Western Australia Posts: 1,283 25.00 NP$ (Donate)	Earnings are down $200 compared to last month. The new EPN really sucks. __________________ Rural Classifieds \| Depression Forum \| Lost Treasure \| Rain Calendar \| Beaut Utes \| My Domains

10-30-2009, 08:05 PM	#15 (permalink)
umxca Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Okanagan Valley Posts: 1,370 842.40 NP$ (Donate)	Hi I just started with EPN so I have nothing to report, but I do have a couple of questions if anyone can help: 1) I had someone click through one of my sites that bid on and won an auction for $76.00. Is .41 cents too low of a commission? 2) Also am I eligible for future commissions from this person if he/she is already an ebayer with prior auction wins? thx __________________ Portfolio \|\| NoPrescription.ca \|\| STOP HST \|\| Send a Text

10-30-2009, 09:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
.X. Revolution Calling! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NamePros Avenue Posts: 5,750 97.70 NP$ (Donate)	My decrease is minimal so far, Around 0.01 .

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10-31-2009, 02:35 AM	#17 (permalink)
enlytend Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,466 289.90 NP$ (Donate)	I've had a couple of decent sized sales and steadier smaller sales than usual, so it isn't quite the bloodbath my September report predicted - the last few days my per-click has been in the $0.40's, which helped make up some ground. Nevertheless it's about 50% of what I would have made under the old system ! 43 cents for a $76 sale is a little over 1/2 percent. Hard to compare this to traditional PPC or CPA programs, but as an affiliate I wouldn't even consider promoting a "normal" affiliate program offering that low a rate. In this program you really have to look at how much you're getting per click over time, not just one day. __________________ Enlytend Solutions - SEO/SEM/Web development specializing in local business marketing Was my advice helpful? Please consider a small donation to the National Canine Cancer Foundation - they directly fund promising research, and it's tax deductible (503(c)) Last edited by enlytend; 10-31-2009 at 02:38 AM.