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Old 05-15-2008, 10:11 AM   · #1
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Arrow WhyPark - Just what the Doctor ordered....

WhyPark - Just what the Doctor ordered.... and I'm only speaking for me. So before you kill the carrier, these are my thoughts, right, wrong or indifferent....

I've watched my revenue drop to 1/100th of what it was when I started parking at standard "parking companies".... clicks that paid over $4 each, down to penny's.

Soooo I took the plunge at WhyPark

$100 seemed like a lot at first, but I tried it anyway.... done with 70 "mini" sites now and counting....

I'm in heaven....

Adsense allowed. Backlinks allowed. Sale page provided. Google Sitemaps provided. Meta Description Tag provided. Relevant Articles provided. Analytics provided.

Gee whiz - who'd a thought it? - a parked page with relevance!

Link to WhyPark Parked Domains (click on the underlined hyperlinked domains) Take a peek at a few of them, I used different backgrounds with different "themes". Out of 215 domains on that list, I have 70 developed now....

Takes me a few minutes to configure each domain...

How come there's not more user feedback on WhyPark here?

Seems to me WhyPark is the bomb - but I haven't had it that long to make a final determination.... and at $1 a domain, I like what I see so far

Thoughts? Any negatives?

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Old 05-15-2008, 11:34 AM   · #2
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I sugest you make an advanced search on WhyPark here at Namepros and read through the many threads about them and to see how they have evolved in the past year and a half or so. There's enough info about them to keep you busy for quite a while.

They and domainers were penalized by Google because of duplicate content. WhyPark however are changing things around in the past few months. Lets hope its for the better.

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Old 05-15-2008, 11:38 AM   · #3
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Good Info - Thanks

I wondered about having so many domains that have "similar" content....

Starting my read now....

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What I'm reading is not so good.....

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I still have plenty of sites with Whypark, and the most important thing is to get rid of or limit the amount of duplicate content. Its faster and more efficient than setting up a wordpress site, but you need to still add your unique content.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:37 PM   · #5
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Arrow WhyPark

I did add a "custom page" to all 70 of the mini-sites.... with a link to my main Forum

IE - Telepresence Communications

This is the only change I made to any of the standard WhyPark templates or articles.

Not enough "unique content" I suspect? I'm thinking out loud now but that's 70 links identically the same.... Probably a bad thing too, no?

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Originally Posted by avi2l
I still have plenty of sites with Whypark, and the most important thing is to get rid of or limit the amount of duplicate content. Its faster and more efficient than setting up a wordpress site, but you need to still add your unique content.



Yeah, I don't use Whypark yet, but that seems like the reasonable way to go.

Does anyone know if they allow affiliate links and banners on their pages?
Also, do they take up any page realestate with ads of their own?

l2ride55, have your WhyPark pages shown any signs of making good money yet?
(Good money = paying for their reg fees.)
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You can pretty much do whatever you want with your WP site. You can easily customize your the html and can add whatever ads you want. I had some kontera and adsense with some affiliate links.

As for L2, I think you'll be OK. Just get rid of any autogenerated content. As for links to your forum. I don't think there is any definitive answer on that. Just try to make the links in context and not necessarily looking like a text link ad type.
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Answer....

Well, per Google TOS.... I can't give the exact amounts BUT....

For the "keyword" I use - it pays for the reg fee of a domain name every few days and over the last few months, that's building weekly

The "keyword" industry is relatively new, and I got lucky regging some pretty good .com's - there's a lot of people searching for information and that's helping....

That's why the "keyword" forum, and at least 2 other developed websites....

I just needed to convert the domains I bought (and didn't develop) into something, and it seems like Whypark is a great answer for me, at least so far.

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Yeah, I don't use Whypark yet, but that seems like the reasonable way to go.

Does anyone know if they allow affiliate links and banners on their pages?
Also, do they take up any page realestate with ads of their own?

l2ride55, have your WhyPark pages shown any signs of making good money yet?
(Good money = paying for their reg fees.)



I do believe you can build a "custom page" with anything you'd like.... That's what I did to a lesser extent than what you're talking about.

There is no ads by Whypark on any of the domains I parked there. I liked that too.

And there is no revenue split - the ads (and their revenue) are 100% mine.

They did get my $100 a year though.... I'm thinking it was a small price to pay for 100 domains, but the jury is still out for now...

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Originally Posted by l2ride55
...They did get my $100 a year though.... I'm thinking it was a small price to pay for 100 domains, but the jury is still out for now...
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I thought I read somewhere that it was a one-time fee of $100, not by year. Am I crazy or did that change?
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Arrow Maybe it is...?

It may be a one time $100! - I never read the TOS, I just figured it was a year! Hopefully it's not a month, or week or something! LOL

Checking on it now....

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From the WhyPark website....

"For a one-time fee of only $99.95, you can host up to 100 of your domain names at WhyPark.com. That includes:

Free Hosting of your WhyPark.com web sites. Use your domain names to generate traffic and revenue

Instant keyword rich web sites with no technical knowledge required
Free professional support and helpful tips. We'll help you build traffic to your domain names

You keep all of your revenue from your web sites, plus we give you easy-to-manage tools for increasing your profits with text links, commissions from linking to WhyPark.com, and by increasing the traffic to your domain names"


You were right! Even better! A one time fee, not yearly....

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Old 05-15-2008, 03:48 PM   · #11
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Originally Posted by GILSAN
They and domainers were penalized by Google because of duplicate content. WhyPark however are changing things around in the past few months. Lets hope its for the better.



There is no future in these kinds of services. The search engines don't want this junk content so they'll be forever trying to find loopholes which google will plug.

It is a bit like begging in the street, might get away with it for the first half hour, then the police come along and kick your ass, eventually they know you on a first name basis and you get moved on before you've made anything.
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There is no future in these kinds of services. The search engines don't want this junk content so they'll be forever trying to find loopholes which google will plug.



From a publishers standpoint....

Junk content, Google indexed or not - is probably better than waiting for somebody to type in a url on a true parked page, no?

Even if the "junk content, parked page" is not indexed, or worse - penalized. What's left is a simple content parked page with paid advertising with no split, which may still be better than a parked page at Sedo or any of the others, no?

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Originally Posted by l2ride55
From a publishers standpoint....

Junk content, Google indexed or not - is probably better than waiting for somebody to type in a url on a true parked page, no?

Even if the "junk content, parked page" is not indexed, or worse - penalized. What's left is a simple content parked page with paid advertising with no split, which may still be better than a parked page at Sedo or any of the others, no?

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My point was though, it has no long term future, parking domains that have no traffic isn't going to work also since parking is for domains that actually have traffic, so why bother with either ideas? Wouldn't it better to look for a model that works and is sustainable for more than a couple of weeks?
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Agreed....

Problem is the search engines that constantly change their rules - arbitrage, ads, parking, etc..,

Developing ONE website takes months and years to get fully mapped and utilized...

How is it even possible to do 200 similar, or better yet - 2000 without overlapping content, keywords, etc?

The million dollar question I guess
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Originally Posted by l2ride55
Agreed....

Problem is the search engines that constantly change their rules - arbitrage, ads, parking, etc..,

Developing ONE website takes months and years to get fully mapped and utilized...

How is it even possible to do 200 similar, or better yet - 2000 without overlapping content, keywords, etc?

The million dollar question I guess



The only way to is hire a lot of staff or buy unique content. There is no easy way to making large amounts of money..."get traffic quick" ideas like whypark aren't the answer. Instead I would suggest either focus on developing one or two domains or buy names that have traffic.
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Just enough....

Not fooling anybody with this post....

"The Plan" was to do something with the domains, hoping that the new "keyword" industry stays on it's rocket path.... Then sell them for a profit to end users that need the "keyword" .com domain names.

It's the "mean time" between early purchase and end user sales that has no clear cut path LOL, LOL!

Buy low, sell high - Hold in the middle hahaha

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WhyPark the Good and the Bad

Hi all, This is my virgin post on NP. I been here before when I did research on WhyPark, but at the time there was very little information. I was one of their first customers and ended up doing an angel investment with Craig last month.

Most of the commentary about WhyPark on this forum is pretty much on target. I started a blog today to share my results with WhyPark - the good, bad and the ugly. If you haven't guessed the blog name is http://WhyParkInsider.com.

About two months ago, Adsense did stop serving ads to some WhyPark sites, including mine, and this was a mini-disaster. As an alternative a WhyPark ad feed was quickly developed and is almost ready to come out of beta testing. I've had 304 domains in the beta test; some clicks have been .01 and the highest has been .60. This is lower than the click amounts from last year at this time with Adsense, but it's pretty comparable to what the Adsense clicks were in December and January. I think in general the price per any click is down due to the economy.

With Adsense and Whypark I was making about $15 on average per domain each year as compared to an average of $0.45 with traditional parking. I just looked at my average with the beta ad feed and annualized it's at $2.50 per domain. Over the last 8 weeks however, it's been increasing about 0.25 per week. The relevancy of the ads seem to be getting better because the CTR is increasing.

Will I get back to $15 soon - I doubt it; but I think it has a pretty good chance of getting to $8 in the next six months. I think short term the invalid click monitoring by Click Forensics will reduce the CTR, but long term WhyPark will be known for delivering quality traffic for advertisers and this will yield higher prices per click.

Add in the 10 to 12 domain sales I get each year from the Whypark sales link and I'll take this over any parking service that I've tried.

To answer the question that started this long post, the $100 is a one-time fee. Sorry for the long story!
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Welcome to Namepros, WPI! And thanks for the long post, it's appreciated.

From the sound of those figures you may have a hard time paying the reg fees on all those domains from the adsense revenue alone. Have you experimented with affiliate links and banners on your WP pages?
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Wish I could get my $100 back; once I got into it, I realized it would never work out for me, but it was too late by then.

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Hi NetMeg: It looks like the DNS got changed, I'll get the site back up. With the $100 you can host 100 sites, if you ad custom content it's close to web hosting without the monthly charges. What is the reason that it doesn't work for you? You don't need to answer, I'm just curious. If its a constructive change, I'd like to get it on the suggestion board where members can vote on suggested improvements.

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Thumbs up WhyPark

Well we're more than a few days in and I'm still very pleased with WhyPark....

Pages load quickly, Google has indexed quite a few of them, all around - I'm quite happy with the time it took to build 72 "parked" sites and the benefits I see with WhyPark. Going to build a few more tonight.

I did sign up for the WhyPark Advertising plan a few days ago, and I do see a "hitch" for now.

The ads that are showing as "Sponsored" ads are not relevant to my keyword, articles, or description.

I figure I'm in such a "niche" market, and the advertising program is still in Beta, they probably don't have any advertisers there (if even one) for what I need - yet.

I just wrote support and asked to change it back to my Adsense for now while they develop the advertisers - I'll report on that progress here...

Good to meet Alan too - I read about your Investment in Whypark here - Link to Whypark Angel Investor

That article was the reason I decided to jump "all in" here Alan....

If it's good enough for your 1/4 Million - I figure I couldn't go wrong with $100

Good to have you here too - I'll check your Blog after I post here.

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DADomains.... A lil' off subject - I just bought your Frontierswoman.com on another post you had here at NP.... I chased your sig from here

My wife's job as a flight attendant is in jeopardy at Frontier right now....

But it's worth the risk LOL

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Hi L2

I just accepted your linkedin invite and sent a PM.

There has been a lot of A - B testing going on with the ad feed, that's why its in beta. I definitely see more relevant ads some days than other days and it definitely shows up in the CTR. I can't disclose the ad sources, notice plural, but some are much better than others.

WhyPark hosted domains are generating an increasing amount of traffic each week and as we meet certain thresholds, better quality ad networks become available to us.

If you can use adsense on your domains I think you should do it for now. I saw the keyword your working around and its very current. A word of caution, just watch that you don't duplicate too much content on your domains.

I'd watch what sites and articles are getting indexed and then use those as your primary domains for the keyword. Then use the other secondary domains to help boost page rank on your key domains. You can write an article (add a custom page feature on the secondary domains) about the topic with a link to the primary domains. Or, you can use the Text Ad Manager on the secondary domains to link back to primary domains. Don't do reciprocating links because that neutralizes the value of the link.

I'm a little short on time so I like to use the Text Ad Manager for this. I edit the HTML a little so the text links are right above "Related Articles." Use analytics and you'll see the referral traffic from these links.

If you have a real website on the subject with some decent page rank, you may want to add a link to a primary domain because that usually helps get more pages indexed. Don't do too much linking to drain the link juice.

We'll anyway you guys are better at this than me, I make kids clothes for a living. When I get tired of my wife, Corky and Company, I spend time with my mistress, WhyPark.
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THose who "talk down" on parking on this thread make me laugh. you all still do it!
whypark is not a bad business, but if google kills domains that have their nameserver(as they often have done these days), its not a great option. Bottom line : get GOOD names, and by good i mean, to the best of your ab