brizzad

How long did it take you to build up your portfolio? Also, once you've reached an income that you're comfortable with, do you still seek out new domains to increase your income, or do you try and tweak your current domains?

matt_bodis

Both. Tweak and buy more. Took me about 3-4 months build my typo portfolio before I sold it. Now I am building a second one. But I started getting into domain market early 2006.

Overall point: The more you make, the more you'll want.

brizzad

For your portfolio, did you do research and register the domains yourself, or were they bought from other domainers? I'm trying to build up a portfolio by buying from other domainers, but it's taking so long because people either have bad domains, or want something extremely unreasonable, like 5-7 years parked income)

W-M

How much did it cost you to build up your portfolio?

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billinchina

Pricing at 5-7 years payback is cheap and hard to find for names that receive type-in traffic.
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Infact, I think you are doing very well if you can find a way to spend $1,000 to purchase a perpetuity that pays you on average $0.50 USD a day.

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brizzad

Seriously? Wow, I can't believe I've been passing those "deals" up then

So based on that forumula, it should theoretically take about $275,000 in knowledgable domain investing in order to turn a steady $50,000/year of purely type in traffic. I guess in the long run it's not too bad.

SimpleDomaining

Lets be honest with each other. lets collect some statistic please. Where are people who make living money on parking domains, and here are people who collect some domain renewal cost from parking. I think answers to this questions would make picture more cleare. You dont need to tell us exact domain name, but it would be nice honestly to share an experience.
i am sure lots of domainers would be interested in this questions:
1. what cathegory (for example: adult, games, poker etc) of domains are bringing highest parking income personally for you?
2. are that domains typos? If yes, than what kind of typos are working best for you? (for example: misspellings, missed letters, mixed letters, etc). If they are not typos, are they 1,2,3 words domains, are they .com or other. Which extension is making most money for you in parking?
3. Which parking company works best for your which cathegory of domains? (example poker domains works best at faboulos).
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4. How did you obtained you best paying parked domain?
Registered, Bought from somebody else.
5. What was a correlation of spending to buy your best paying domain name with the income its making in %.
6. Are you making living with your parked domain/domains. If yes, than how many of them making your living? 1? 10? 100? 1000?
7. How do you advertice parked domains?
Thank you. You are welcome to add more questions.

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matt_bodis

None of my portfolio domains were registered. I can definetely wake up one day and start registering thousands of domains per day and ATLEAST break even because I have tried this already in small doses and has worked out for me, but I wouldn't make a fortune.

The thing is, if you register domains you can probably get a deal as cheap as $6 per reg if you register in bulk. Or maybe even less with some registrars. If you register at that cost, you'll need $0.50 per month to break even. This is a good strategy for people who have patience - which is the key in this biz btw. On your first year you may break even, but at the end of the year when renewal time comes, you can look over each domain one by one and discard all the ones that haven't made up their registration fee. Therefore, if you discover half of the bad ones, you'll probably make double the reg fee year two. That's where you profit comes in. So it is still a good trick for those that have patience. I'd also advise people to hold all their revenue from these names on the side, otherwise when renewal comes and you don't have that money saved up you will be very angry. It's a strange feeling if you don't hold onto that money and later use it from another source. You feel like you are losing money on the typos. And you definetely do not want that feeling.

Now my portfolio was built around patience. You shouldn't jump out there and start buying up typo domains. That is not the right way to do it. Right now I am building a new typo portfolio, my last one had one domain that was bought for 4k and sold @ xxx,xxx. And the funny part is that this domain was bought on DNForum, with nearly 10 days into the thread starting date! So sometimes you can see optimization potential that nobody else does. That's the key. I turned the 4k domain into a mini Google adsense site and I was happier than ever.

Another one I bought was for 11k on a drop. I also optimized it...sold this one as well @ xxx,xxx.

Okay I hate discussing figures, but you guys should get the point.


Now to answer some of gugushes questions.

1. The category doesn't matter, but I never had any poker, casino, or adult domains. Those are usually good if only parked with services such as Fabulous. I buy domains that will do rather good everywhere.

2. Type-ins are best. For instance....ToyotaLexus.com, or something like that. But I had typos as well.

3. Well there is no good parking service. Most of them take more profits from the domain owner than you can imagine (that's why I am developing my own), but I did use Sedopro, Klickerz, RevenueDirect, Domainsponsor, etc. Also used Google Adsense.

4. I bought it on the forum and optimized it.

5. Well yes, but I am 18 so I don't really have much expenses as of right now. I don't own a house and I don't pay my rent. I view this as a hobby. A big hobby. I also view this as a gambling addiction. Again, a HUGE addiction that I can't get myself out of no matter what I try. I had about 10 domains in my portfolio. But depends what strategy you follow. You can make alot of money with 3 domains or 100,000 domains. It is upto you if you want to follow the path of finding good deals or follow the path of registering typos, or something in the middle.

7. I do not advertise anything. The domains have to receive natural type-in traffic, or typo traffic themselves. Advertising could actually get you banned from parking services, so I'd advise against that for your own good.


To wrap this up, these are basically the things you need to do to make alot of money on the internet. And if you disagree with any one of these, you will probably not have a success on the internet:
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1. You must work hard.

2. You must always follow your goal, no matter what. You cannot lose hope.

3. Have 1 good idea that you really want to persue, instead of 500 ideas.

4. Take risks. Big ones.

5. Don't be desperate. And also be patient.
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6. Work in silent mode. Don't be a show off. Don't be like: therichjerk.com! Just like in Scarface:

Thanks for sharing Matt. Definitely learned and took a lot of it to heart.

Peter

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IT IS HARD TO DO。

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tetrapak

Very good read Matt, and totally agree with it. I'm on a different business plan, i'm 90% doing research for my future mini-sites and building them, so i wouldn't be able to talk about parking companies and keyword tweakings.

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Damion

It's also interesting to use features such as domain tasting that is provided by Moniker.com for instance.

Then dropping them if the domain(s) in question don't provide any good expectations in terms of revenue yielded in a short time frame you have in order to drop the domain(s) again.

I stumbled upon this formula a couple days back to calculate if the domain is worth keeping or when it should be dropped again.

It's no bulletproof method but you can apply a calculated risk to your parking portfolio investment.

Makis.TV

this is very nice...thank u!

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I tottally agree with that.
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However, if you want to sell, you need to make people aware that you exist. Certainly not to the point to be a show-off, but visibility is indeed necessary.