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Old 10-20-2005, 10:01 PM   · #1
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Sad Uber Marketing Troubles... Like Major Disaster

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I'm a bit of a marketing catastrophe (Being born on Fri 13 at 4:20 PM has nothing to do with it I assume...) ... here's a little about my stats:

My main site, www.MattsProjects.net, the hub for my projects, gets about 5 uniques a day. The forums there (Also called the projection screen) have DIED. It doesn't have a central theme, which I need some advice with. I need members to come without my needing to pay them.

LawFAQ.info has just come to a dead halt... used to get like 10-15 uniques a DAY... now just 1 or 0... 5 if I'm lucky.

DomainTops.com has also come to a standstill since I stopped paying people to join... (hence why I have no NP$ right now hardly) - the site isn't done, true, but some various areas are really suffering.

Also, I normally get over 1,000 Adsense impressions. Now I'm lucky to get 100. I have also dropped to 50 cents a day revenue


I really need some advice - that I don't need to spend money with... I have none


Thanks for all help,
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Old 10-21-2005, 01:43 AM   · #2
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What did you do?

Can you go more into detail on how you advertised your site previously? Was it link exchanges, or what exactly. There are many changes search engines are going through at the moment, especially google.

Let me know.

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Old 10-21-2005, 12:50 PM   · #3
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Mostly just sig ads and some advertising in the For Sale/Advertising board... I dunno what happened
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Old 10-21-2005, 02:02 PM   · #4
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Hey Matt,
Fri 13 .... no worries ... In Italy it is considered good luck...
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Hope all goes well with GoDaddy ???

I love your topic articles and we should chat about an idea or 3 I have.
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Old 10-21-2005, 02:58 PM   · #5
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Thanks... I'll PM you.

Too bad I don't live in Italy though lol.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:00 PM   · #6
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You have had a good idea with DomainTops.com, however it appears that you don't really have much of a marketing strategy. What is your current strategy?
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:44 PM   · #7
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:57 PM   · #8
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Those ads at the bottem. Start advertising those. Umm, the only reason really why you were getting hits on the sites was because you were paying them, thats why any site I ever develop I will not offer money or some form of money (NP) to them, cause once they get their money MOST LIKELY they will just forget about it.

Try to send out a nice newsletter with what is going on and what you have to offer these days. If you need help with this I could help as I did a news letter for a gaming forum and had to research a lot but still it helps get back members that either,
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But one thing is make sure it has GOOD content and not something you threw together in like an hour.

Maybe on other forums put a advertising graphic in your sig. If you need on I could hook you up with one as I am a designer and I have lots of designer friends that could help if needed.

Add to directories. You can find some directories at http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=132390 and I also added the PR beside each site if you scroll down a little.


I hope this helps you and others. If you like this then please donate, add rep or add tr.

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Old 10-21-2005, 04:01 PM   · #9
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Old 11-01-2005, 01:24 AM   · #10
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You need more content and less ads. Your LawFAQ.info site sucks (no offense). You got barely any content on it.

Take the Google Adwords down, your not making any $$$ of the sites so ya may as well get rid of the ads.

Then build your site by content/reputation. People are more apt to link to a website with no ads then a website with ads.

After your site starts developing some traffic (100 hits a day min) feel free to put the Adsense ads back up.

Optimize mattsprojects.net for search engines. That'll help get ya back into the search engine game.


Get rid of all the colors. Sure its great to display every colour in the rainbow but ya don't need that many. It ruins your sites image.

Don't worry about marketing right now, worry about working on your sites.

After you got a good amount of content: 50% of your online time should be spent working on your sites, 50% should be on marketing.
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Old 11-04-2005, 04:20 AM   · #11
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Sorry dude but I highly dislike your advice I don't wanna take down adsense lol

I do like your SEO advice though. That's good, will work on it. And I'll see about working on the sites then too. Thanks jm!
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Old 11-04-2005, 06:30 AM   · #12
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yes matt. On the internet, content is king. The better your content, the better will be the traffic and the more you'll earn from adsense. If you can spend a couple of hours daily writing good articles that complement your services (no need to SEO them), then in about a month odd you should end up with about 30+ pages of quality content. Keep doing this month after month, and your revenues will keep climbing.

Also, you should be subtle about the ad placements... blend them well with the content.

Forget about SEO.. those rules keep changing with every google update (although a few common sense ones always stay). Focus on content, not on marketing or SEO.

Once you hit 150-200+ pages of quality content, start your marketing campaign... then those paid visitors will have a higher chance of actually revisiting your site. Make a news section on your site, get some RSS feeds on as well that are relevant to your site. start a newsletter offering interesting information, weekly roundups etc etc. there are a hundred things you can do.

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Sorry dude but I highly dislike your advice I don't wanna take down adsense lol

I do like your SEO advice though. That's good, will work on it. And I'll see about working on the sites then too. Thanks jm!


You don't have to like my advice but consider this, why have it up when its not making you any money? Which would you prefer, a site with traffic or a site with no traffic?

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Old 11-05-2005, 03:52 AM   · #14
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hehe thats actually correct. many people think .. just make some pages of content, send some traffic through some shady traffic exchange programs, slap some adsense ads and you're done !!

Fact is, it takes time, effort and a lot of patience to have a good site worthy of traffic (and $$$).

Excellent content and/or services + zero SEO + zero Marketing is a far more long term successful strategy to adopt than worthless content + great SEO + great marketing in the vast majority of the cases and on a long-term basis.
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