250.000 domains will be released in Brasil.

nameaction · 06-02-2010, 08:55 AM

This saturday June 5th., 2010, NIC Brasil will release 225.036 domain names that were not renewed by their owners.

The full list can be consulted at:
https://www.nameaction.com/Brasil_Listados/listado.html

Source: Registro .br - Info - Processo de Liberação de domínios

Juan Enrique Sánchez S.
President
www.nameaction.com
Domains Latin America

Sparhawke · 06-02-2010, 09:52 AM

Most of them will be crap but here is the question of the day...

How many of those will be simply handed over to vulture registrars so they can screw us out of our hard earned childrens inheritance?

Thanks for the list in any case

Alex P · 06-02-2010, 10:07 AM

Could be some nice pick-ups in that.

Sparhawke · 06-02-2010, 10:26 AM

I have already spotted a couple of nice ones but with the Brasil extension is could be more awkward...as such I will likely not be partaking of them at the ridiculous price of $90 each

No wonder they are dropping so fast.

Though there are some GREAT names in there.

domainwb · 06-02-2010, 11:00 AM

is .net.br popular in brasil, any value or only .com.br is valuable ?
Any brazilians please provide more input regarding this.

poing · 06-03-2010, 11:33 AM

Interesting terms and conditions on the registry site. It looks like one is limited to applying for a maximum of 20 domains amongst other regulations.

Sparhawke · 06-03-2010, 12:38 PM

The main problem is though is how many people are going to be willing to pay upto $100 for yearly renewals along with development costs on top?

You can release as many names as you want, but that doesn't matter a damn if there is nobody to take ownership of them.

*Archangel* · 06-03-2010, 02:41 PM

True but it doesn't stop most ccTLD owners.

Originally Posted by Sparhawke

The main problem is though is how many people are going to be willing to pay upto $100 for yearly renewals along with development costs on top?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/industry-news/659510-250-000-domains-will-released-brasil.html

You can release as many names as you want, but that doesn't matter a damn if there is nobody to take ownership of them.

Jaco · 06-03-2010, 03:12 PM

All domains should be $100 to register, $100 to renew.

Alex P · 06-03-2010, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jaco

All domains should be $100 to register, $100 to renew.

Ugh why would you say that?

*Archangel* · 06-03-2010, 03:27 PM

I take it that you have something against ccTLD's?

Originally Posted by Jaco

All domains should be $100 to register, $100 to renew.

Jaco · 06-03-2010, 03:29 PM

Nothing against ccTLDs.

By making the cost of domain names substantially higher than they are now, it would serve to break up the keyword-cartels that have hijacked the namespace for their own narrow gain.

It should not be profitable to buy, hold and unproductively squander a quality domain name.
If I were managing a ccTLD, I'd have $100 registrations as well. If I were king of ICANN, I'd see to it that renewals on all .com, .net and .org names was raised to $50 or more.

As long as they're going to allow people to do this, I'll do it, but if I could vote to shut it down, I would and price increases are the only way to make that happen.

*Archangel* · 06-03-2010, 03:34 PM

Hmmm Good points. The way I see it, if renewal was $100, then ppl would feel more inclined to DEVELOP their domains rather than just hold them with only a potential sale in mind. But that's just my thoughts on it.

Originally Posted by Jaco

Nothing against ccTLDs.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=659510

By making the cost of domain names substantially higher than they are now, it would serve to break up the keyword-cartels that have hijacked the namespace for their own gain.

It should not be profitable to buy, hold and unproductively squander a quality domain name.
If I were managing a ccTLD, I'd have $100 registrations as well. If I were king of ICANN, I'd see to it that renewals on all .com, .net and .org names was raised to $50 or more.

Alex P · 06-03-2010, 03:41 PM

If the renewal was $100 then idd be pushing to be able to afford running my sites, im guessing the same with a lot of people, its taking away peoples freedom to create websites.

Jaco · 06-03-2010, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Alex P

If the renewal was $100 then idd be pushing to be able to afford running my sites, im guessing the same with a lot of people, its taking away peoples freedom to create websites.

That was the same argument that they made when domains went from being free to $35 a year.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=659510

The fact is, you have no inherent 'freedom' to create websites no more than you you have an inherent 'freedom' to own a shoe store or a glass bottle factory. There are costs associated with doing everything and if you want to do those things, you must pony up.

$100 is not unreasonable and would be happily paid by people who are serious about their sites. Who would it harm? Mass domain speculators and adsense sploggers? Yeah. The world will be weeping over that...

If living in a condo in Chicago has taught me anything, it's that there are substantial tangible and intangible advantages to having high assessments. It keeps riff-raff out. The web is now 70% riff-raff, with most of the prime properties sitting undeveloped. The only way to stop this bullshit is to raise the taxes in the neighborhood.

Alex P · 06-03-2010, 05:51 PM

Well $100 over a few domains is a lot to me since im a full time student, its selfish more than anything in what your saying, your saying you can afford to chuck up the $100 per domain but screw everyone else who cant because there just filling up the web with crap.

I agree with the good domains being sat on they shouldn't be, however some 14 year old kid who took weeks to get $10 online for a domain now shouldn't have the right to his new website according to you.

Very fair.

*Archangel* · 06-03-2010, 05:58 PM

Going back to $35 a year sounds reasonable. It isn't unfair to ask a higher fee for domains. Surely one could get $35 in a year to renew his/her choice domain.

Alex P · 06-03-2010, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Archangel

Going back to $35 a year sounds reasonable. It isn't unfair to ask a higher fee for domains. Surely one could get $35 in a year to renew his/her choice domain.

$35 a year sounds fair but I dont think that would stop people sitting on there domains that are worth $xx,xxx

*Archangel* · 06-03-2010, 06:17 PM

I doubt it would. But on the other hand, it would help in other ways. Let's assume a person had 100 domains. Renewing them all @ $35 each would cost $3,500 yearly. Unless they had a good job and could afford the bill (or if they made that much from the domains on parking/Adsense), then they'd likely sell off a few of their assets to pay the bill. This would help if a person is holding decent domains and refuses to part with them. There is a pretty steep difference between $1,000 and $3,500.

Originally Posted by Alex P

$35 a year sounds fair but I dont think that would stop people sitting on there domains that are worth $xx,xxx

Alex P · 06-03-2010, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Archangel

I doubt it would. But on the other hand, it would help in other ways. Let's assume a person had 100 domains. Renewing them all @ $35 each would cost $3,500 yearly. Unless they had a good job and could afford the bill (or if they made that much from the domains on parking/Adsense), then they'd likely sell off a few of their assets to pay the bill. This would help if a person is holding decent domains and refuses to part with them. There is a pretty steep difference between $1,000 and $3,500.

True, godaddy are increasing the cost for .com and .net in July anyway I think I read somewhere? I don't think it was by much however.

*Archangel* · 06-03-2010, 06:26 PM

They are, yes. I plan to take my only last 'good' domain and renew it 10 years before the price change comes into effect
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=659510

Originally Posted by Alex P

True, godaddy are increasing the cost for .com and .net in July anyway I think I read somewhere? I don't think it was by much however.

soggyindo · 06-03-2010, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Jaco

All domains should be $100 to register, $100 to renew.

that's a very US-centric view, too. it would be a pity if poor countries were at the same disadvantage online as they are offline

Jaco · 06-03-2010, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by soggyindo

that's a very US-centric view, too. it would be a pity if poor countries were at the same disadvantage online as they are offline

I'd actually be totally in favor of all gTLD's being $100 a year, and ccTLD's being whatever the registry decided to choose for their own people, but $100 a year for anyone outside that country.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=659510

So, if India wants to make .in $6 a year for Indians, they can, but for someone like me to own a .in, it would be $100.

evirtual1 · 06-03-2010, 11:41 PM

this a domaining forum isn't it ????????

*Archangel* · 06-04-2010, 12:01 AM

Dude, you hit it outta the f*cking park with this!

Originally Posted by Jaco

I'd actually be totally in favor of all gTLD's being $100 a year, and ccTLD's being whatever the registry decided to choose for their own people, but $100 a year for anyone outside that country.

So, if India wants to make .in $6 a year for Indians, they can, but for someone like me to own a .in, it would be $100.

---------- Post added at 03:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:00 AM ----------

Technically, this discussion is on an industry-related topic so I'll let it stay as it is so long as this doesn't go astray of it.

Originally Posted by evirtual1

this a domaining forum isn't it ????????

06-02-2010, 08:55 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
nameaction New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 6	250.000 domains will be released in Brasil. This saturday June 5th., 2010, NIC Brasil will release 225.036 domain names that were not renewed by their owners. The full list can be consulted at: https://www.nameaction.com/Brasil_Listados/listado.html Source: Registro .br - Info - Processo de Liberação de domínios Juan Enrique Sánchez S. President www.nameaction.com Domains Latin America

06-02-2010, 09:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
Sparhawke Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: England Posts: 1,726	Most of them will be crap but here is the question of the day... How many of those will be simply handed over to vulture registrars so they can screw us out of our hard earned childrens inheritance? Thanks for the list in any case __________________ I taut I taw a Putty Tat Available Domain Names Last edited by Sparhawke; 06-02-2010 at 09:57 AM.

06-02-2010, 10:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
Sparhawke Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: England Posts: 1,726	I have already spotted a couple of nice ones but with the Brasil extension is could be more awkward...as such I will likely not be partaking of them at the ridiculous price of $90 each No wonder they are dropping so fast. Though there are some GREAT names in there. __________________ I taut I taw a Putty Tat Available Domain Names Last edited by Sparhawke; 06-02-2010 at 10:31 AM.

06-03-2010, 11:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
poing NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 38	Interesting terms and conditions on the registry site. It looks like one is limited to applying for a maximum of 20 domains amongst other regulations. __________________ Domain Name News \| ICANN Accreditation and Registrar Consulting DomainConvergence in Montreal - May 12-13, 2011

06-03-2010, 12:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sparhawke Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: England Posts: 1,726	The main problem is though is how many people are going to be willing to pay upto $100 for yearly renewals along with development costs on top? You can release as many names as you want, but that doesn't matter a damn if there is nobody to take ownership of them. __________________ I taut I taw a Putty Tat Available Domain Names

06-02-2010, 10:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
Alex P Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: .uk Posts: 1,349	Could be some nice pick-ups in that.

06-02-2010, 11:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
domainwb NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 339	is .net.br popular in brasil, any value or only .com.br is valuable ? Any brazilians please provide more input regarding this.

06-03-2010, 03:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
Jaco Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 1,442	All domains should be $100 to register, $100 to renew.

06-03-2010, 03:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jaco Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 1,442	Nothing against ccTLDs. By making the cost of domain names substantially higher than they are now, it would serve to break up the keyword-cartels that have hijacked the namespace for their own narrow gain. It should not be profitable to buy, hold and unproductively squander a quality domain name. If I were managing a ccTLD, I'd have $100 registrations as well. If I were king of ICANN, I'd see to it that renewals on all .com, .net and .org names was raised to $50 or more. As long as they're going to allow people to do this, I'll do it, but if I could vote to shut it down, I would and price increases are the only way to make that happen. Last edited by Jaco; 06-03-2010 at 03:33 PM.

06-03-2010, 03:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
Alex P Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: .uk Posts: 1,349	If the renewal was $100 then idd be pushing to be able to afford running my sites, im guessing the same with a lot of people, its taking away peoples freedom to create websites.

06-03-2010, 05:51 PM	#16 (permalink)
Alex P Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: .uk Posts: 1,349	Well $100 over a few domains is a lot to me since im a full time student, its selfish more than anything in what your saying, your saying you can afford to chuck up the $100 per domain but screw everyone else who cant because there just filling up the web with crap. I agree with the good domains being sat on they shouldn't be, however some 14 year old kid who took weeks to get $10 online for a domain now shouldn't have the right to his new website according to you. Very fair.

06-03-2010, 05:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
Archangel www.randypendleton.com Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southern Ohio, USA Posts: 7,302	Going back to $35 a year sounds reasonable. It isn't unfair to ask a higher fee for domains. Surely one could get $35 in a year to renew his/her choice domain.

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