eBay pricing structure raised! Your help is needed!

tekz999 · 01-13-2005, 01:43 AM

All ebayers have received the announcement by ebay about the new pricing structure, and hell I am furious about it :angry:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/industry-news/64650-ebay-pricing-structure-raised-your-help.html

First, take a look at:
http://www2.ebay.com/aw/marketing.sh...05-01-12075944

Now you can protest against it!
Contacted them by email.

Click "Help" on the right hand top menu
Under the "eBay Help" box on left, click "Contact us"
Choose
1. >> Ask about selling or bidding (for sellers only)
2. >> Billing and selling fees
3. >> Ask about selling fees

Bingo! Write them your opinion about how ebay charges us initial fee + final value fee + paypal fee are already 1/4 - 1/3 of our profit!! Your opinion will be heard!

What I also did was before sending a message, I have clearly requested them to send my opinoins to the administration/management level. As those email representatives do not have the enough power to do this change.

eBay sellers! Fight for yourself!

Best,
Gilbert

superprogrammer · 01-13-2005, 01:45 AM

Thats really a bad news
In addition to ebay being a great scam, they have now openly started looting the people!!
www.ebaysucks.com

{insert name here} · 01-13-2005, 02:58 AM

I hope someday soon ebay goes down in a blazing fashinon! I do not like ebay at all, never have. ebay has done more harm to online sales and credibilty than good IMHO!

webuyhosts · 01-13-2005, 03:00 AM

If someone started a ebay clone where you got a % of the dollar amount say 1.5% and thats it people would flock, but getting that big will be tough any marketing experts?

RareIQ · 01-13-2005, 04:52 AM

wha............

Acroplex · 01-13-2005, 09:37 AM

Pricing structure is up. They are the 800lbs gorilla and they know it.
Not worth using ebay for small change.

identity_00 · 01-13-2005, 10:13 AM

I really dont even visit ebay very often - I think the biggest impact you can probably make is to leave your feedback and never return until they come to their senses which probably wont happen.

zestydomains*com · 01-13-2005, 10:27 AM

I'd like to weigh in on this...

It is a bummer that the rates have increased so greatly, but we as users and consumers have 100% complete control over this. Ebay provides a service to us which we can either use or not use. In that way, we vote to either accept their service (and the fees associated with this) by using Ebay, or we vote against their higher costs by not using Ebay. The choice is ours to make and we have 100% control over this.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64650

And I think this is something that is true accross the board. Why bother complaining...instead become innovative and see that Ebay has now better opened doors to their competitors...which you can take part in. For the sake of competition, this might be the best news of all!

Just a $.02 on this one.

Andrew

superprogrammer · 01-13-2005, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by zestydomains*com

I'd like to weigh in on this...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64650

It is a bummer that the rates have increased so greatly, but we as users and consumers have 100% complete control over this. Ebay provides a service to us which we can either use or not use. In that way, we vote to either accept their service (and the fees associated with this) by using Ebay, or we vote against their higher costs by not using Ebay. The choice is ours to make and we have 100% control over this.

And I think this is something that is true accross the board. Why bother complaining...instead become innovative and see that Ebay has now better opened doors to their competitors...which you can take part in. For the sake of competition, this might be the best news of all!

Just a $.02 on this one.

Andrew

And who do you think you are going to use next to auction off your goods?
The next ebay alternative or competitor? Where is it?

zestydomains*com · 01-13-2005, 11:21 AM

Superprogrammer...great question and I'm happy to reply.

Firstly, there are auction services all across the web and Ebay is by no means the only auction option even for just domain names (See Namepros Auction, DNF Auction, Pool ect). Further, the reason Ebay feels they can raise their rates to this level (almost doubling some of their fees) is because they provide both a superior auction service at this time and they believe that most of their users will continue to use their services even at these higher rates.

This said, they run a business, and your dissapointment at the increase in rates is fine. You have the option not to use them at all. Take an extreme case...Even if there were no other auction services on the web, Ebay still has the right to charge as they wish and you have the complete control to use their services or not use them. To Ebay's credit, they are a sharp company, but they certainly don't have to lower their rates (or even practically give away their services) just so more users can use their auctions to make more money for themselves.

In my opinion, Ebay is working to make supply = demand. Right now demand for their auction services is high, and therefore they can charge a premium to meet that high demand. Sure, some people will no longer use Ebay now because of the high rates (and supply will go down), and Ebay knows this will happen, but the bottom line is that Ebay believes that most will not quit using Ebay and thus they can better profit from the valuable service they provide their users. This is certainly a fair business practice.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64650

Your thoughts otherwise are certainly welcome...

Andrew
(Disclaimer: And no, I have no affilation with Ebay or anything like that. I have used their services in the past and may again in the future, but likely less now because of the higher rates.)

domainguru · 01-13-2005, 11:49 AM

I don't like how ebay is raising its fees all the time either, if you are selling something you know will sell with a high profit margin ebay is great, but if you are selling a product that doesn't sell right away, their initial fees are a killer. There is no other option to go with to sell stuff or to buy stuff with the selection and prices and community like ebay has built, it is too bad another company didn't start up right with ebay that could have grown with it. Now ebay is so big, it would be hard to pull sellers away who depend on ebay to sell and attracting buyers to another site wouldn't be easy. Everyone knows what ebay is now, its like saying Ford or Chevy, you know what it is. Getting that kind of brand name power wont be easy, Yahoo or Microsoft are the only 2 companies I see that could even have a chance to go up against ebay. Actually as much as people dont like Microsoft for being so big, if Microsoft decided to go after ebay and start a on-line auction site, it might gain Microsoft better consumer views and ebay would actually have to respond to Microsoft entering into the market. I would love to see Microsoft enter into the industry, no one thought Nintendo would ever loose it's dominance, yet now with Xbox and PS2 Nintendo is out of the picture pretty much. Maybe Wal-Mart could enter into the industry too, they have the pockets and market power, but I doubt Wal-Mart would do that, it would likely compete against themselves and they would be getting out of focus on what they do best. Yahoo didnt really make it against ebay, but I think Microsoft could. Instead of trying to get into the anti-virus/adware market, they should go after ebay, a lot more money there and their service would force ebay to stop jacking up thier fees. I have pretty much quit using ebay for selling names, the fees are just too high, having to pay $5-10 each time in fees and listing again and again, it cuts into profits too fast. As for selling things I dont need or use any more around the house, ebay is the only way to really get rid of things or rather sell them. It is amazing how I can lump togeather old clothes and sell them, and they will sell on ebay, but then I try to sell a premium name on there and I hardly get any hits on my auction listing. I think ebay has pretty much lost the domain name auction industry, there are always lots of names on there for sale, but I wonder how many sellers have been on there for a extended period of time selling, I doubt very few. As the domain name industry continues to expand and grow, I think we will see ebay decline in the source to buy and sell domain names. Other than that area though, I think ebay is going to keep growing until another company with deep pockets enters into the market. Which to be honest if ebay keeps making the profits it is, another big company is bound to enter into the market, I think Microsoft could very well be the company to enter into the market next. What else has Microsoft not entered into?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64650

Those are just my thoughts.

Isis · 01-13-2005, 11:53 AM

i've never been able to make descent $$ with ebay. I get more luck with garagesales & classified ads.

Stephen · 01-13-2005, 12:18 PM

The Ebay fee hike isn't that horrible. If you are just going to be listing items such as clothing, video games, etc, you won't be noticing too much different at all.

It has increased alot however for business type sales, and or automotive sales.

I don't think this will effect my opinion of Ebay at all.

webuyhosts · 01-13-2005, 05:22 PM

What are the urls to sites that are like ebay? any close competitors?

Darkfire001 · 01-13-2005, 05:58 PM

Not that many good competitor's, but I would use one if it existed

AdoptableDomains · 01-13-2005, 07:03 PM

Yahoo once tried to give them a run for their money, but seems to have given up. (http://auctions.yahoo.com/). They also tried to put out an alternative to paypal, but folded it recently.

I hope the price increases will make the viability of an alternative (or a few) come to life. I'm still waiting for a major bank to offer a paypal alternative as well. I don't think Yahoo can do it, but maybe some other company will. Be careful what you ask for though, as Microsoft might step up to the plate.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64650

Really all a contender would need to do is offer free listings with an equal final value fee to get a bunch of people to sign on.

Can you imagine the strength of UPS doing the auction combined with simplifiying shipping, or Intuit (Quicken) doing an online payment service? I'll be Google could do auctions well if they tried, and tie them into adsense and the search engine.

drsx · 01-13-2005, 11:15 PM

There needs to be serious competition to eBay, but that is almost impossible due to eBay has gotten so big.

eBay knows they are basically the only game in town, so the loss in business will be offset by their increased fees and in time will be forgotten.

We just listed iShuffle.com on ebay and want to do others quickly before the rates increase. Plus, we need to spend time and figure in the new rates to determine where are the cut-off points. Meaning this, inexpensive items will no longer be feasible to list due to not able to recoup the costs.

With this obvious point, eBay newbies and pros will quickly realize that eBay has more pain than gain. We just don't get it. With the increase rates and inexpensive items being the bulk of their business, eBay could easily see a 10% drop of auction listings.

aww · 01-13-2005, 11:30 PM

Folks the only way to stop them is to have competition.
Letters of complaint do nothing but make you feel better for a moment. Remember they own PayPal now so they win in every way. Their revenue is insane - I doubt any other online business can top their profits for a non-physical product.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64650

It's a few years too late to invest in another massive auction system but Yahoo Auctions has been around forever and is probably the next largest online auction. Their prices are much lower because of the lower volume they get and their layout and functions are as good if not better than ebay (they even have an anti-snipe option you can enable on a per-auction basis).

People won't stop listing on ebay, but perhaps the next time you do a long term listing on ebay - you'll also try listing it on Yahoo.

The other problem to blame is that Google can and does index some ebay auctions but not Yahoo auctions.

In our niche market we are fortunate enough to have places like Afternic & Sedo and numerous independants but other merchandise is not so fortunate. If you want change, you best start supporting another service or you'll have yet another near-monopoly like PayPal, and now eBay.

dc1pop · 01-14-2005, 08:48 AM

8% on final listing price woooow

think its time for me to stop using eBay ....

Filtered · 01-14-2005, 09:04 AM

I am working on getting a better system started. TigerBid.com

There is currently a %3 final sale fee and that's it. No other fees. You do pay for Featured items etc..But there is no listing fee or other crap like that..

I'm still doing a lot of testing and might even bring it down to %2. It's hard to start a successful auction house but once people see there is a better way maybe I'll have a chance..
Anyone that hates ebay, register and tell the whole world to do the same

equity78 · 01-16-2005, 03:40 AM

www.ioffer.com MAybe ok

webuyhosts · 01-16-2005, 04:30 AM

I will commit to this , i bought the name
anewbay.com I will buy the script, set it up and it will be free for the first year, to get people using it , anyone that knows marketing or has access to mass of traffic let me know as iam serious on this, lets get a small guy going now and kick them in the side and see what falls out. hit me back here if anyone has input

AdoptableDomains · 01-16-2005, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by webuyhosts

I will commit to this , i bought the name
anewbay.com I will buy the script, set it up and it will be free for the first year, to get people using it , anyone that knows marketing or has access to mass of traffic let me know as iam serious on this, lets get a small guy going now and kick them in the side and see what falls out. hit me back here if anyone has input

If you create an auction site that has "bay" anywhere in it, you are askling for a dispute from ebay. Just check the history of UDRP and search the web. Ebay is very agressive at protecting their TM.

inflames · 01-16-2005, 09:04 AM

doesnt suprise me in the least . e-bay knows that 9 out of 10 ppl will use their "service" i think a new auction site is in order IMO

majinbuu1023 · 01-16-2005, 12:56 PM

That sucks..
That really sucks..
Theres a site called http://www.trademe.co.nz
its like ebay...
it costs to put a gallery listing and stuff...
but theirs no listing fee...
only a sucess fee...
its like 0.1% of the final bid or something

01-13-2005, 01:43 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
tekz999 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,876	eBay pricing structure raised! Your help is needed! All ebayers have received the announcement by ebay about the new pricing structure, and hell I am furious about it :angry: ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/industry-news/64650-ebay-pricing-structure-raised-your-help.html First, take a look at: http://www2.ebay.com/aw/marketing.sh...05-01-12075944 Now you can protest against it! Contacted them by email. Click "Help" on the right hand top menu Under the "eBay Help" box on left, click "Contact us" Choose 1. >> Ask about selling or bidding (for sellers only) 2. >> Billing and selling fees 3. >> Ask about selling fees Bingo! Write them your opinion about how ebay charges us initial fee + final value fee + paypal fee are already 1/4 - 1/3 of our profit!! Your opinion will be heard! What I also did was before sending a message, I have clearly requested them to send my opinoins to the administration/management level. As those email representatives do not have the enough power to do this change. eBay sellers! Fight for yourself! Best, Gilbert __________________ $60 Three Premium Letters + Numbers + Keywords .BIZ/.US lah.biz+ 10+ Years Domains! PanelRoom.com+ $60 Last edited by tekz999; 01-13-2005 at 01:49 AM.

01-13-2005, 01:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
superprogrammer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 4,324	Thats really a bad news In addition to ebay being a great scam, they have now openly started looting the people!! www.ebaysucks.com __________________ Download youtube videos at www.HugYouTube.com -NO LINKS TO PARKED PAGES- Anonymous access at www.Banned.net

01-13-2005, 03:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
webuyhosts NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 321	If someone started a ebay clone where you got a % of the dollar amount say 1.5% and thats it people would flock, but getting that big will be tough any marketing experts? __________________ Anyways more free hosts and freephpbb comign soon !! CAN YOU DIG IT!!!!!!!!

01-13-2005, 09:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
Acroplex Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,824	Pricing structure is up. They are the 800lbs gorilla and they know it. Not worth using ebay for small change. __________________ DomainGang.com - Digital Entertainment for Domainers Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog

01-13-2005, 10:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
zestydomains*com NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 623	I'd like to weigh in on this... It is a bummer that the rates have increased so greatly, but we as users and consumers have 100% complete control over this. Ebay provides a service to us which we can either use or not use. In that way, we vote to either accept their service (and the fees associated with this) by using Ebay, or we vote against their higher costs by not using Ebay. The choice is ours to make and we have 100% control over this. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64650 And I think this is something that is true accross the board. Why bother complaining...instead become innovative and see that Ebay has now better opened doors to their competitors...which you can take part in. For the sake of competition, this might be the best news of all! Just a $.02 on this one. Andrew __________________ ZestyDomains.com - 3-Letter & Other Top Domains. www.3Character.com - 3 Times the Characters, 3 Times the Fun!

01-13-2005, 02:58 AM	#3 (permalink)
{insert name here} Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,304	I hope someday soon ebay goes down in a blazing fashinon! I do not like ebay at all, never have. ebay has done more harm to online sales and credibilty than good IMHO!

01-13-2005, 04:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
RareIQ Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 2,161	wha............

01-13-2005, 10:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
identity_00 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,212	I really dont even visit ebay very often - I think the biggest impact you can probably make is to leave your feedback and never return until they come to their senses which probably wont happen.

01-13-2005, 11:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
zestydomains*com NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 623	Superprogrammer...great question and I'm happy to reply. Firstly, there are auction services all across the web and Ebay is by no means the only auction option even for just domain names (See Namepros Auction, DNF Auction, Pool ect). Further, the reason Ebay feels they can raise their rates to this level (almost doubling some of their fees) is because they provide both a superior auction service at this time and they believe that most of their users will continue to use their services even at these higher rates. This said, they run a business, and your dissapointment at the increase in rates is fine. You have the option not to use them at all. Take an extreme case...Even if there were no other auction services on the web, Ebay still has the right to charge as they wish and you have the complete control to use their services or not use them. To Ebay's credit, they are a sharp company, but they certainly don't have to lower their rates (or even practically give away their services) just so more users can use their auctions to make more money for themselves. In my opinion, Ebay is working to make supply = demand. Right now demand for their auction services is high, and therefore they can charge a premium to meet that high demand. Sure, some people will no longer use Ebay now because of the high rates (and supply will go down), and Ebay knows this will happen, but the bottom line is that Ebay believes that most will not quit using Ebay and thus they can better profit from the valuable service they provide their users. This is certainly a fair business practice. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64650 Your thoughts otherwise are certainly welcome... Andrew (Disclaimer: And no, I have no affilation with Ebay or anything like that. I have used their services in the past and may again in the future, but likely less now because of the higher rates.) __________________ ZestyDomains.com - 3-Letter & Other Top Domains. www.3Character.com - 3 Times the Characters, 3 Times the Fun!

01-13-2005, 11:49 AM	#11 (permalink)
domainguru NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 382	I don't like how ebay is raising its fees all the time either, if you are selling something you know will sell with a high profit margin ebay is great, but if you are selling a product that doesn't sell right away, their initial fees are a killer. There is no other option to go with to sell stuff or to buy stuff with the selection and prices and community like ebay has built, it is too bad another company didn't start up right with ebay that could have grown with it. Now ebay is so big, it would be hard to pull sellers away who depend on ebay to sell and attracting buyers to another site wouldn't be easy. Everyone knows what ebay is now, its like saying Ford or Chevy, you know what it is. Getting that kind of brand name power wont be easy, Yahoo or Microsoft are the only 2 companies I see that could even have a chance to go up against ebay. Actually as much as people dont like Microsoft for being so big, if Microsoft decided to go after ebay and start a on-line auction site, it might gain Microsoft better consumer views and ebay would actually have to respond to Microsoft entering into the market. I would love to see Microsoft enter into the industry, no one thought Nintendo would ever loose it's dominance, yet now with Xbox and PS2 Nintendo is out of the picture pretty much. Maybe Wal-Mart could enter into the industry too, they have the pockets and market power, but I doubt Wal-Mart would do that, it would likely compete against themselves and they would be getting out of focus on what they do best. Yahoo didnt really make it against ebay, but I think Microsoft could. Instead of trying to get into the anti-virus/adware market, they should go after ebay, a lot more money there and their service would force ebay to stop jacking up thier fees. I have pretty much quit using ebay for selling names, the fees are just too high, having to pay $5-10 each time in fees and listing again and again, it cuts into profits too fast. As for selling things I dont need or use any more around the house, ebay is the only way to really get rid of things or rather sell them. It is amazing how I can lump togeather old clothes and sell them, and they will sell on ebay, but then I try to sell a premium name on there and I hardly get any hits on my auction listing. I think ebay has pretty much lost the domain name auction industry, there are always lots of names on there for sale, but I wonder how many sellers have been on there for a extended period of time selling, I doubt very few. As the domain name industry continues to expand and grow, I think we will see ebay decline in the source to buy and sell domain names. Other than that area though, I think ebay is going to keep growing until another company with deep pockets enters into the market. Which to be honest if ebay keeps making the profits it is, another big company is bound to enter into the market, I think Microsoft could very well be the company to enter into the market next. What else has Microsoft not entered into? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64650 Those are just my thoughts.

01-13-2005, 11:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
Isis Think for yourself Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Az Posts: 1,057	ebay...noway! i've never been able to make descent $$ with ebay. I get more luck with garagesales & classified ads.

01-13-2005, 12:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
Stephen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 3,238	The Ebay fee hike isn't that horrible. If you are just going to be listing items such as clothing, video games, etc, you won't be noticing too much different at all. It has increased alot however for business type sales, and or automotive sales. I don't think this will effect my opinion of Ebay at all.

01-13-2005, 05:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
webuyhosts NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 321	What are the urls to sites that are like ebay? any close competitors? __________________ Anyways more free hosts and freephpbb comign soon !! CAN YOU DIG IT!!!!!!!!

01-13-2005, 05:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
Darkfire001 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,123	Not that many good competitor's, but I would use one if it existed __________________ Reichelt Solutions

01-13-2005, 07:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
AdoptableDomains Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,015	Yahoo once tried to give them a run for their money, but seems to have given up. (http://auctions.yahoo.com/). They also tried to put out an alternative to paypal, but folded it recently. I hope the price increases will make the viability of an alternative (or a few) come to life. I'm still waiting for a major bank to offer a paypal alternative as well. I don't think Yahoo can do it, but maybe some other company will. Be careful what you ask for though, as Microsoft might step up to the plate. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64650 Really all a contender would need to do is offer free listings with an equal final value fee to get a bunch of people to sign on. Can you imagine the strength of UPS doing the auction combined with simplifiying shipping, or Intuit (Quicken) doing an online payment service? I'll be Google could do auctions well if they tried, and tie them into adsense and the search engine. __________________ AdoptableDomains.com ~~~~~Finding Good Homes for Good Names~~~~~ FuelPrices.mobi - Fish.us - ManhattanNewYork.net - Salesmen.info - SoundSystems.org Dickering.com - JobPlacement.biz - LotteryTickets.ws - Deleted.cc - Names.im - MP3.hn

01-13-2005, 11:15 PM	#17 (permalink)
drsx NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 45	There needs to be serious competition to eBay, but that is almost impossible due to eBay has gotten so big. eBay knows they are basically the only game in town, so the loss in business will be offset by their increased fees and in time will be forgotten. We just listed iShuffle.com on ebay and want to do others quickly before the rates increase. Plus, we need to spend time and figure in the new rates to determine where are the cut-off points. Meaning this, inexpensive items will no longer be feasible to list due to not able to recoup the costs. With this obvious point, eBay newbies and pros will quickly realize that eBay has more pain than gain. We just don't get it. With the increase rates and inexpensive items being the bulk of their business, eBay could easily see a 10% drop of auction listings.

01-13-2005, 11:30 PM	#18 (permalink)
aww Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,187	Folks the only way to stop them is to have competition. Letters of complaint do nothing but make you feel better for a moment. Remember they own PayPal now so they win in every way. Their revenue is insane - I doubt any other online business can top their profits for a non-physical product. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64650 It's a few years too late to invest in another massive auction system but Yahoo Auctions has been around forever and is probably the next largest online auction. Their prices are much lower because of the lower volume they get and their layout and functions are as good if not better than ebay (they even have an anti-snipe option you can enable on a per-auction basis). People won't stop listing on ebay, but perhaps the next time you do a long term listing on ebay - you'll also try listing it on Yahoo. The other problem to blame is that Google can and does index some ebay auctions but not Yahoo auctions. In our niche market we are fortunate enough to have places like Afternic & Sedo and numerous independants but other merchandise is not so fortunate. If you want change, you best start supporting another service or you'll have yet another near-monopoly like PayPal, and now eBay.

01-14-2005, 08:48 AM	#19 (permalink)
dc1pop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,893	8% on final listing price woooow think its time for me to stop using eBay ....

01-14-2005, 09:04 AM	#20 (permalink)
Filtered Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: NY Posts: 1,054	I am working on getting a better system started. TigerBid.com There is currently a %3 final sale fee and that's it. No other fees. You do pay for Featured items etc..But there is no listing fee or other crap like that.. I'm still doing a lot of testing and might even bring it down to %2. It's hard to start a successful auction house but once people see there is a better way maybe I'll have a chance.. Anyone that hates ebay, register and tell the whole world to do the same __________________ NuScope Media NameMixer.com\|Domain Portfolio

01-16-2005, 03:40 AM	#21 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	www.ioffer.com MAybe ok

01-16-2005, 04:30 AM	#22 (permalink)
webuyhosts NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 321	ok I will commit to this , i bought the name anewbay.com I will buy the script, set it up and it will be free for the first year, to get people using it , anyone that knows marketing or has access to mass of traffic let me know as iam serious on this, lets get a small guy going now and kick them in the side and see what falls out. hit me back here if anyone has input __________________ Anyways more free hosts and freephpbb comign soon !! CAN YOU DIG IT!!!!!!!!

01-16-2005, 09:04 AM	#24 (permalink)
inflames Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: PA Posts: 1,339	doesnt suprise me in the least . e-bay knows that 9 out of 10 ppl will use their "service" i think a new auction site is in order IMO

01-16-2005, 12:56 PM	#25 (permalink)
majinbuu1023 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 3,746	That sucks.. That really sucks.. Theres a site called http://www.trademe.co.nz its like ebay... it costs to put a gallery listing and stuff... but theirs no listing fee... only a sucess fee... its like 0.1% of the final bid or something

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