Facebook to kill Domaining?!

JAugusto · 02-04-2010, 10:00 PM

Check the new Facebook search box!

What do you guys think?

mrjohn · 02-04-2010, 10:49 PM

Um . . . not likely. Myspace was also supposed to wipe out domains.

As long as people want to implement their own higher-end functions, Google is king.

I'd also add that Facebook's value is now being grossly overinflated by the games. If Farmville and all the clones disappeared, Facebook would take a major hit.

A lot of people are on Facebook for the same reasons they used to use Yahoo -- anything except the main, original function of the website. And that didn't end well for Yahoo.

While I don't view Facebook as the kind of absolute disaster that Yahoo has become, I do think the great FB revolution will find its place next to a lot of the waves that have broken upon the shores of the internet. MySpace is now virtually worthless. For all the pimping of video, the fact is the video sites struggle mightily to make cash. RSS was once a big deal. Twitter is already failing to find a new generation of users.
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I've been on the web too long to get too excited about what is the big thing this year.

kemjika11 · 02-04-2010, 10:59 PM

what is facebook "search" to google? probably nothing. THe internet is much bigger than facebook, so i don' think it will even be moderately succesful at taming domain names in any way..lol.

JAugusto · 02-04-2010, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by kemjika11

what is facebook "search" to google? probably nothing. THe internet is much bigger than facebook, so i don' think it will even be moderately succesful at taming domain names in any way..lol.

How about this chart:
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Site Comparison of google.com (rank #1), facebook.com (#3) | Compete

ericpkearns · 02-05-2010, 12:05 AM

i use facebook to promote everything i do including domaining. its nice of them to give us free advertising to that large of an audience.

labrocca · 02-05-2010, 10:31 AM

Facebook is a fad imho..the same as MySpace or Digg. Sure it will always have popularity to some extent but some other app or website will come along. Internet users have very short attention spans and it's all about one upping the competition.

I think facebook is better than Myspace but still mediocre and it's losing focus fast.

***SpareDomains*** · 02-05-2010, 10:58 AM

I turned down a low x,xxx and low xx,xxx offer this week from 2 end users that inquired direct from the parked page, ipad, facebook etc... won't kill domaining, if you have the right end user type domains end user offers will continue to flow in, seeing more offers in 1 month this year than 3-4 months of last year, applications may come out which could slightly effect pay per click earnings but my best money has always come from domain sales on domains with and without traffic.

nameboi · 02-05-2010, 12:03 PM

Social media has been hurting end user domain sales for a long time because end users continue to waste money on social media instead of developing their own brands. Any Long Island Real Estate firm could have easily bought LongIsland.com for $50,000/year payed for 12 years. They could then put the name on all their Real Estate listings. Instead they will happily spend this $50,000/year on some worthless social media marketing.

namewaiter · 02-05-2010, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by JAugusto

How about this chart:
Site Comparison of google.com (rank #1), facebook.com (#3) | Compete

but of those numbers ... 99% go to google to search, 99% go to facebook for other reasons (maybe 1% to search, if that)

JAugusto · 02-05-2010, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by nameboi

Social media has been hurting end user domain sales for a long time because end users continue to waste money on social media instead of developing their own brands. Any Long Island Real Estate firm could have easily bought LongIsland.com for $50,000/year payed for 12 years. They could then put the name on all their Real Estate listings. Instead they will happily spend this $50,000/year on some worthless social media marketing.

Social media marketing "worthless"?! You're living on the 80's.

biznews · 02-05-2010, 01:55 PM

When people realize how much time they spent on worthless activities, social media will die in due time. The learning curve does not happen in a week or a month. Facebook will be history unless it morphs into something beyond live updates and silly chatter. Not soon enough. But, one day for sure.

DubDubDubDot · 02-05-2010, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by nameboi

Social media has been hurting end user domain sales for a long time because end users continue to waste money on social media instead of developing their own brands. Any Long Island Real Estate firm could have easily bought LongIsland.com for $50,000/year payed for 12 years. They could then put the name on all their Real Estate listings. Instead they will happily spend this $50,000/year on some worthless social media marketing.

I hate to burst your bubble, but long-island-real-estate.net would have the same effect in print media as LongIsland.com.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=638062

So the $50,000 per year in social media advertising is the no brainer choice.

---------- Post added at 03:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:01 PM ----------

Originally Posted by biznews

When people realize how much time they spent on worthless activities, social media will die in due time.

... and they will realize that worthless activities such as sitting in front of the TV are better?

If they are dumping Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, etc... then were are they going?

biznews · 02-05-2010, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot

I hate to burst your bubble, but long-island-real-estate.net would have the same effect in print media as LongIsland.com.

So the $50,000 per year in social media advertising is the no brainer choice.

---------- Post added at 03:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:01 PM ----------

... and they will realize that worthless activities such as sitting in front of the TV are better?

If they are dumping Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, etc... then were are they going?

YouTube perhaps is an exception. Well, for the rest, they will find something else.

sdsinc · 02-05-2010, 02:45 PM

Even the big search engines like Google - that are the killing app of the Internet - have not killed domaining. 'Nuff said

globegenius · 02-05-2010, 04:13 PM

What amazes me is how many adults play the game farmville. Looks like something for 5 year old kids.

defaultuser · 02-05-2010, 07:09 PM

I thought that the iPad was killing domaining...

I hope for all your sakes that you can't access Facebook via an APP on the iPad.... everyone PANIC!

//Yeah, I read Fark
/Sometimes

mrjohn · 02-05-2010, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by nameboi

Social media has been hurting end user domain sales for a long time because end users continue to waste money on social media instead of developing their own brands.

I don't know that that really hurts domain sales. The same people that are now on Facebook and Twitter were the folks who used to make really, really awful Geocities and Tripod and Angelfire websites. You're never going to cure the criminally stupid, who want to believe the internet is magical wish granting pony that allows you to add zero cash and make millions.
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I mean, really what was MySpace? It was Geocities++. What is Facebook? MySpace meets Yahoo Games.

Originally Posted by labrocca

Facebook is a fad imho..the same as MySpace or Digg.

+1

One thing I will say is that once the marketers find a website, the end is near. Digg used to be cool -- and now the site is just a competition between paid spam and social network spam. MySpace went the same way. Twitter I think was born to be spam -- I'm still convinced Twitter (now at an inflection point where the word "decline" will be used more often to describe it) never was anything and that a bunch of marketing pimps just went all-in to sell it to the mass media types who masturbate with their Blackberries.
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The big advantage Facebook has had is they built out slowly. The site is far more tasteful than any of its forerunners (Myspace, we're looking your way). But even then, Facebook stumbled upon its model for popularity with the games.

I was talking to a couple of my Facebook gaming freaks today, and they were jacked about the new revisions. I think Facebook is about to peak because they're too clueless to quit pushing their original vision of the website. The search thing . . . it has nothing to do with anything their core audience cares about.

I should also add that FB's core audience is a flighty bunch. When someone combines that Jewels game with Farmville and Elf Bowling, that core audience will move on to whatever site hosts it. And their social networking audience has already proven rather promiscuous in their interactions with Twitter and MySpace. The girl with a busy history rarely makes a great wife.

Compare that to Google's core audience, which has remained faithful since 1998 -- an absolute eternity in internet terms. And that gap between #3 and #1 is way larger than the gap that FB had to jump to go from #100 to #3.

Longterm, I think Facebook could be an eBay. They'll come off their high, but hang around and eventually accept their role in the ecosystem. That or they'll be another Yahoo -- a company that never could settle down and be happy with its core audience.

JAugusto · 02-06-2010, 03:01 PM

ShoppingMalls.com went for $26,770 recently
ShoppingMall.com sold for $500,000 in 2000

This shows how bad things are.

mrjohn · 02-06-2010, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by JAugusto

ShoppingMalls.com went for $26,770 recently
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ShoppingMall.com sold for $500,000 in 2000

This shows how bad things are.

Um . . . no it doesn't. It shows how superior the singular Mall is versus the plural Malls.

Take a look in the Adword tool for the CPC differences between singulars and plurals. It counts for a lot. Especially if the singular is used more often.

Also, you have to factor in the general decline in commercial real estate between 2000 and 2010. Shopping malls, as a general commercial proposition, are much more frowned upon by investors than they were ten years ago.

JAugusto · 02-07-2010, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by mrjohn

Um . . . no it doesn't. It shows how superior the singular Mall is versus the plural Malls.
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Take a look in the Adword tool for the CPC differences between singulars and plurals. It counts for a lot. Especially if the singular is used more often.

Also, you have to factor in the general decline in commercial real estate between 2000 and 2010. Shopping malls, as a general commercial proposition, are much more frowned upon by investors than they were ten years ago.

I agree. Good points.

***Domainate.com*** · 02-07-2010, 12:22 AM

The only way social media has affected domaining is infusing short brandable domains with value, taken slightly from the rest of the pool. The economy has been what's affected domaining and domaining hasn't been affected nearly as much by the economy as other industries have. .com is to all the other extensions as domaining is to all the factors supposedly killing it - largely unphased. I'm more concerned about the poor quality of the renovation of the largest domain marketplace on the web (Sedo) than I am about any effects social media might have on sales. Sedo is now absolutely atrocious and views per listing seem to have fallen further and further with each new renovation they do. I can't imagine their sales activity has actually gone up after the redesign.

labrocca · 02-08-2010, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Sedo is now absolutely atrocious and views per listing seem to have fallen further and further with each new renovation they do.

Yes you noticed this too.

And mrjohn +1 to you too since you basically saved me a few paragraphs.

UAdomainer · 02-09-2010, 06:52 AM

Stupid question, IMO

WolfMother · 02-09-2010, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by UAdomainer

Stupid question, IMO

this.

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nameboi NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 70	Social media has been hurting end user domain sales for a long time because end users continue to waste money on social media instead of developing their own brands. Any Long Island Real Estate firm could have easily bought LongIsland.com for $50,000/year payed for 12 years. They could then put the name on all their Real Estate listings. Instead they will happily spend this $50,000/year on some worthless social media marketing.

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