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http://www.ricklatona.com/2008/11/04...he-difference/

Your Opinions?

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Jeff

I am trying to learn as much as possible about the short, unique, and highly brandable .TEL ... as it is of particular interest to me insofar as MOBILE usage and application for those, including myself, that are busy and out and about - in need of key information while "on the go"!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/industry-news/533815-how-to-tel-the-difference.html

Thanks for posting the link!
-Jeff

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Work In Progress

Well, it seems if the key information you're looking for is contact info, looks like you've just struck gold. If you're looking for true content beyond that, you might have to look into another avenue.

Quite honestly, I can't see this being a big hit with domainers.
1- you can't "park" a .tel
2- you can't place ads on a .tel
3- you can't "develop" a .tel

What advantage(s) would it have to a domainer?

Yes, I can possibly see some end users adopting this over time for the contact aspect. But talk about potential risk! Just my humble opinion

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Jeff

Good points, and one would be wise to fully study and understand all aspects regarding the highly brandable .TEL prior to investment, IMHO.
One thing I can say for sure, however ... regarding both the highly brandable .TEL as well as the .WEB extensions ... domainers will most definitely speculate in both and some will even expect to "make a killing" with the HYPE (as we witnessed, here first-hand, with the pain and implosion of the extremely awkward, lowly "dot Mobey") IMHO.
Both .TEL and .WEB of course are short, one syllable, and three letters ...

Caveat Emptor, as always friends!
Happy Thanksgiving.

-Jeff

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hawkeye

You're such a baffoon! According to what you call 'logic' every extension is a great success except the one you can't spell!! .ASIA, .INFO, .me, .biz, etc etc you don't harp on, (because I guess these are 'great investing' and 'needed' extensions and that you highly recommend them), but you just keep insulting those that bought into one you don't like!! I hope you encourage a lot to invest in the 'highly brandable' .tel, and that they loose their shirts because of your misguided perception of what .tel is even about and for!!! And whatever your lame retorts will be, constantly stating over and over that .tel is 'highly brandable', (whatever!) will cause some to buy into it and not knowing why!! Hopefully the ones you encourage to waste their money on it, will remember 'who' encouraged them to waste their money on .tel!!!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=533815

G.A.L.!


Proof of the intelligence being offered!!

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Jeff

^ Sticks and stones, friend.

I've repeatedly and specifically stated the following regarding the highly brandable .TEL:
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"One would be wise to fully study and understand all aspects regarding the highly brandable .TEL prior to investment, IMHO."

On the other hand, in your public hostilities ... your agenda seems to still be hyping the floundering "dot Mobey" ... with promoting quickly tossed up ™ AKQA (same as Visa and Smirnoff, not coincedentally) turkey "sites" such as Coke "dot Mobey", IMHO.

Have fun!

-Jeff

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Work In Progress

The only real no-brainer is still .com. ALL others are simply running behind. The age of .org and net help those, for sure. But most companies and end users still build and want .com over anything else. Hands down. ALL other extensions carry varying degrees of risk. Some greater than others for domainers.

.tel, from everything I've seen seems to be in the extremely high risk category for reasons I have already laid out.

For domainers looking at traditional domaining ways of monetizing (which you and many others seem to fit), .mobi will continue to be construed as a failure. You'd be very fortunate to get renewal fee's off of parking. You'll have to have patience and money to reap rewards on a large scale for companies to come knocking on your door. Mass acceptance and development is really still in it's infancy. I have first hand experience in dealing with larger companies, dealing with link exchanges. It's an extremely slow process to dredge through, but hopefully, it will pay off. I can't imagine how difficult and slow it's been for mTLD in talks of adoption. But I hardly think mobi is dead seeing companies such as Coke recently starting to embrace it.

For domainers who like to or care to develop, .mobi still has quite a lot of promise. Particularly now, as drops are occurring and prices are falling. If you were to grab a keyword you have interest in and can think of a mobile use for it, it could certainly be turned into gold. Why don't you give it a try Jeff? Just go to
site.mobi, open up a new account and start putting a site together. If you need help along the way, I'd be happy to give you some pointers . It just might startle you to see that mobile sites have quite a following.

Your main disdain for mobi seems to be it's "brandability", for lack of better terms. You keep harping on the importance of one syllable vs two. Just wondering why you think this is important in branding? Do you think that Google would've done better with Goog? Or maybe "lack" insurance is better tan "Aflack" Insurance? Why would .web be a better investment than .net? Do you really think that companies are going to rush out and re-market their campaigns because there is a new domain extension (again) out there? The bottom line is, people will remember just about anything if it's marketed enough / effectively.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=533815
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=533815

Domainers are the only ones clammering for another shot of .com gold. The ONLY thing that attracted me towards .mobi is the fact that it's the only tld approved and accredited for mobile sites. It's truly different and needs to be to be effective. Just grab your phone and let me know which on of these sites you'd rather visit to check out a hairstyles:

Site 1
Site 2

Mobile sites need to be different or people simply won't / can't visit them. This difference should be a trustmark and assurance of the extension. DotMobi fits that model, quite nicely. It's not needed...but something needs to distinguish between a mobile friendly site vs a site that doesn't work well (or not at all). Just common sense.

Oh, and Happy day to you!

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Jeff

^ Great post, Mark ... it's obvious, as I've stated here publicly in the past, that you're on a far higher intellectual -and- professional level than the immature poster here in the thread from "Hollyweird", etc. IMHO.
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You've touched on the key subjects of "dot Mobey's" lack of brandability (my opinion), its length and awkwardness etc. and I would like to address each of these aspects with you; as well as mTLD and its failure to build and promote / effectively market the "trustmark" and "assurance of the extension", as well as the game-changing introduction of the iPhone and other smart phones ... which I will do after the Holiday!
In the meantime, kudos for your eternal patience (with mTLD) ... and for your continuing developments, as well!
The highly brandable .TEL will prove to be a significant threat to the remaining viability of "dot Mobey", in the end IMHO.

Regards,
Jeff

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Keith

Once again your ignorance shines through.

The length of .mobi is insignificant. Todays youth texts at speeds beyond belief. I'm sure the extra letter in "mobi" will not factor into the exts survival. Lets not forget about favorites.

Also I know you don't own an iphone so you speak of things you have no experience or knowledge of. I do have an iphone. Dot com sites simply do not render properly on the phone...period! I suggest you go to an Apple store sometime in the near future to brush up on the latest technology.

Better luck next time

-REECE-

I'm pretty interested in .tel -- not so much for domaining but for how they've differentiated themselves.

They're setting a good example for future extensions by not holding hostage 5000 premiums.

Jeff

Languishing ...
^ Hammer. Head. Nail.

Link: http://flowers.mobi

^ And above insofar as the supposed "trustmark" issue (not to mention the excuses and continued delays in the enforcement of the mandated development requirements of previously auctioned (versus RFP'd!) "dot Mobey" domains)!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=533815

Goodnight, friend.

-Jeff

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phase111

Right on Reece, I think .tel will be huge. When I first saw it and the demo of it I was a little sceptical, if only for the simplicity of it, but the more I look at it and think about it, the bigger I think it will be...it's just so useful to so many people! In the distant future it could even be the first stop before .com (shock horror, dont mean to offend .com fanatics out there, lol)...it will also evolve over time too and is going to be developer friendly, which is great.

-REECE-

I'm very much looking forward to the first real landrush in awhile

hawkeye

The funny part is, besides you, you keep noting I have an agenda, like I own mtld or...something! (duh. Whatever!), but you are the one that has been promoting the .tel extension for the last 8+ months!!! So it seems maybe 'you' are the one with the agenda, and .... hmmmm.., maybe even some financial interests in this extension??..?!?... hence the heavy promoting?!?

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Jeff

$0.00 financial interests ... in the highly brandable .TEL (or .WEB extension(s), IMHO.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=533815

More information can be found at link: http://vip.tel

-Jeff

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Keith

I'm not sure about a real landrush for a space that contains my contact info. Hell, every existing website already has contact info posted.

If I own google.com, why would it be necessary for me to have google.tel? Surely those accessing the .com would find my contact info

Jeff

From Rick's last paragraph:
^ Money that was once budgeted for long, failed "dot Mobeys" (renewals) will go toward the investments in the highly brandable .TEL
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=533815

The highly brandable .TEL could serve as a short, extremely memorable TRUSTMARK for those that are "on the go" ... in that the person utilizing the highly brandable .TEL could be guaranteed the proper business or individual contact information ... and then with the unique ability that all pertinent information "is immediately clickable for a “click-to-call” feature", IMHO.
Wow!

-Jeff

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hawkeye

Yeah, wow, big bucks to be made with this extension. (...by the registrar!, not domainers.)

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GF

Has there been any talk about how much these are going to cost to register?

What I don't like about these extensions is that companies now have to go out and register their names and develop additional sites in order to protect their branding.

Kind of a pain in the ass, , no?

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Keith

Be cool. Be polite. Be professional.™


Get the FAQ's: Highly brandable .TEL
Tick. Tock. | "dot Mobey" R.I.P.

Is this professional?...we'll get back to that later

Forgive me if I don't understand your thinking. Why would
someone access a .tel for contact info when they can simply
access the existing website to obtain the same info?

If I want contact info for google.com, why in the hell would I
go to google.tel for info that already exists on the main website?

Jeff

As Rick blogged, Telnic is not auctioning off premium names IMHO.

Are you saying that they will prove to be as GREEDY and inept as mTLD?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=533815
IYHO's.

-Jeff

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-REECE-

Yeah I completely agree Galel -- When all these new extensions start coming out, I wouldn't be surprised to see some start complaining...

Imho, those with trademarks who already own the domain in other extensions should be given their name in the extension for free should their sunrise app be approved. I think we're going to see some angry corporations moving forward if not.

hawkeye

No einstein, I'm noting that this will not be an extension that will be profitable for domainers to trade or resell in, except for maybe in a 100 or so 'in-demand' type names. So what would be it's use/need for domainers to buy into and invest in them?

..and

Please do tell us the best run tld registry out there, why so, and why you recommend them! You don't knock the .eu, .biz, or any other ones, so you must like and recommend them as good examples! (bet he doesn't answer!)

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Jeff

The only public hostilities, it seems, regarding the highly brandable .TEL ... are from the teeny few remaining and misguided "dot Mobey" enthusiasts folks, IMHO.

You'll need to re-read both Rick's blog in its entirety and the full Telnic FAQ's to get a better understanding of the highly brandable .TEL ... the domains are not being auctioned (as inept and greedy mTLD has optioned to do for its "dot Mobey" generics / premiums in order to fill its own coffers (versus the abandoned RFP process)!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=533815

Of course, the failed "dot Mobey" is also unnecessary ... and, to address your comment; I've noted on many occassions that there are similar problems with the long, two sylllabled "dot INFO", as well.

Deep breaths, friend.
-Jeff

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hawkeye

yeah.. ok. What hostilities???? You are the one that is publicly hostile to the .mobi extension and the ones that invested in it!!!!!
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..You just arbitrarily make up things to acuse people of??!?


oh, so, so, so true!


And of course, you didn't answer one of my questions!

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