Cuil.com - any thoughts?

gingeman · 07-28-2008, 09:34 AM

So...

Big news is Cuil.com has launched as the new super-sized search engine in town...

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=cuil&meta=

Anybody got any thoughts?

Do you think they really can compete with the big 'G'?

NameClerk.com · 07-28-2008, 09:46 AM

I like the results presentation but it's so slooooowwwww.

Chef Patrick · 07-28-2008, 10:07 AM

it's not bad but i'm not switching from google

Barrucadu · 07-28-2008, 10:16 AM

It didn't find my (almost) brand new website which Google does, it must be terrible!

Seriously now, the results presentation just puts me off completely. How am I suppose to know which is the most relevant? There are three columns!

CureCancer · 07-28-2008, 10:23 AM

i cant find a link to submit a site? anyone!

Steve · 07-28-2008, 10:51 AM

The creators are ex-Google employees.

There's a reason they don't work at Google anymore.

I'll stick with my traditional Google search.

CureCancer · 07-28-2008, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Steve

The creators are ex-Google employees.

There's a reason they don't work at Google anymore.

I'll stick with my traditional Google search.

me2

brizzad · 07-28-2008, 11:05 AM

Google got so popular so fast from its simplicity, this will never even come close to competing with google with all those scattered multi columned search results

Bargain-Domains · 07-28-2008, 11:24 AM

Cuil is getting a lot of attention from the press. An ex-google employee starting a new search engine, which has more websites listed than google, is a good story. It will be a good story for a while and the press will keep reporting on it.

So... For those typo-lookers, this may be a good place to look. Sites like Googll.com get tens of thousands of hits daily.

I'm not in this market... I'm just suprised how many prime typos there are left. =).

Phil · 07-28-2008, 11:26 AM

It's certainly not a small startup. They have 33 million dollars in venture capital
(although this is a drop in the bucket to Google's +100 Billion dollar market value).
One of the founders, Anna Patterson, had built a search engine before this one
which was bought by Google to upgrade their search engine with the technology.
So she's obviously very capable. If this new search engine is equal to or even
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better it's going to come down to marketing, something which Google has a far
superior position in. Cuil.com does have have at least one very strong selling
point that I've seen and that's they won't keep user data. Given the recent
situation between Youtube (Google owned) and Viacom and a judge's ruling to
hand over user's data (the 2 parties did agree only after that the data would be
made anonymous) some people might appreciate this aspect of the new search
engine. Of course all the data Google collects is also one of it's strengths since
this allows them to do more targeted marketing.
I find it interesting that although Wikipedia rules in PageRank on Google, you
can search for most anything - name of a band, car brand, tv show, etc. and it will
rank in the top 3 of results - you generally won't see this on Cuil. Clearly
Wikipedia gets lots of traffic and is usually very relevant information. I wonder
what it is about Cuil's methods of indexing that gives Wikipedia a poor showing?
Any ideas on this?

jhansen · 07-28-2008, 11:27 AM

I read the press release, looked for typos, tried it.

Absolutely awful results...

...awful name too.

Mark · 07-28-2008, 11:33 AM

Actually - They weren't "just" google employees - One of them was a main Engineer that google has been buying technology(inventions) from for some time.

Nice to see some competition IMO ~

eggymusic · 07-28-2008, 11:38 AM

no we are not switching from google..

Steve · 07-28-2008, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Mark

Nice to see some competition IMO ~

Ask.com put out some really powerful search tools, but they've hardly put a dent in Google's share of searches.

SimpleMan · 07-28-2008, 02:11 PM

This is a heck of a lot more than just a few engineers starting up their own Google (or attempting to, anyway). Monier is involved in the project, the name might not ring a bell, but he worked with the likes of Altavista when it was the Google of its era. Arguably, some of Monier's innovations later led to Google. There are other names in there, just as bright.
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Search engines are constantly involving and there are some very bright minds behind Cuil, just as there are at Google. Google has already started to show some signs of problems, though as with anything these can be worked out. I think the time is ripe if the competitor brings something new to the table.

Microsoft and Yahoo don't get it - so it's not like Google has simply been dominating the excellent competition out there. Google is indeed a juggernaut, and I don't want my last statement to take away from that or try and diminish them, but even a company Google could go down the drain with the innovations that are out there. Google has built a monopoly, but fortunately no company can ever really get a monopoly on ideas in this market.

Only time will tell if these folks succeed, but this is not just another search engine copy. I, for one, welcome the competition.

***johname*** · 07-28-2008, 02:38 PM

You think they would have the money to come up with a better name

There supose to have 3 times the index papes of google, all the people that complain about their parked pages not being on google should suport Cuil.com

CureCancer · 07-28-2008, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by johname

You think they would have the money to come up with a better name

Thank You, I guess Im not alone in this question!
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Ceegle.com sounds better... Google - Ceegle

If anyone wants to sell them Ceegle, Ill give you 25% Commission.

The current format for search results are cool, but not easy to read through... and im not happy with the serch result i get back... google has better results for search...

***johname*** · 07-28-2008, 02:55 PM

So far i dont care for it, but ill keep playing with it

SimpleMan · 07-28-2008, 03:04 PM

If you click "Webmaster Info" you can submit your website at the bottom. I don't think they've full on let it index quite yet.

I don't so much mind cuil as a name, it's only four letters and will be memorable. Google, though hard to imagine, is a typo itself.

CureCancer · 07-28-2008, 03:19 PM

I just send a letter to CUIL.com team, I questioned their pick Cuil.com with 33 Million Dollar Budget! I just provided them with my feedback. A positive approach. and also gave them options to what is brandable VS cuil

Cuil just doesn't sell it, it will fail on TV and Radio... and I know this, cause i work in entertainment... the EAR and EYE are very picky....

Get it right the first time and win!

Compassion · 07-28-2008, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by MIR

I just send a letter to CUIL.com team, I questioned their pick Cuil.com with 33 Million Dollar Budget! I just provided them with my feedback. A positive approach. and also gave them options to what is brandable VS cuil

Cuil just doesn't sell it, it will fail on TV and Radio... and I know this, cause i work in entertainment... the EAR and EYE are very picky....
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Get it right the first time and win!

I agree, what an absolutely horrible choice for a domain for a 33 million dollar startup.

Surely they could have found something better in Kevin, Adam or Rick's portfolio, heck I think half of us NPers could have sold them a better name than this.

CureCancer · 07-28-2008, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by tight-aggressive

I agree, what an absolutely horrible choice for a domain for a 33 million dollar startup.

Surely they could have found something better in Kevin, Adam or Rick's portfolio, heck I think half of us NPers could have sold them a better name than this.

And they are the ones getting paid 6 to 7 figure salaries... lol
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so much money and yet so litle brains in picking the right brand!

***johname*** · 07-28-2008, 03:43 PM

"Founded by husband-and-wife team Tom Costello and Anna Patterson"

At least take a hyphenated form of your husband's name lol

Ross · 07-28-2008, 03:57 PM

Im sorry but the whole thing is fail IMO. I dont like the design, the search results, and the placement of webpages. Not to mention the column thing is just really really tacky. Sorry but google is still #1 and will remain #1.

dgridley · 07-28-2008, 04:01 PM

Cuil ain't "cool".. search results suck except for the most generic terms. Looking for several sites produced either no or inaccurate results..

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Bargain-Domains NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 391	Cuil.com - New search engine Cuil is getting a lot of attention from the press. An ex-google employee starting a new search engine, which has more websites listed than google, is a good story. It will be a good story for a while and the press will keep reporting on it. So... For those typo-lookers, this may be a good place to look. Sites like Googll.com get tens of thousands of hits daily. I'm not in this market... I'm just suprised how many prime typos there are left. =).

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Phil NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 940	It's certainly not a small startup. They have 33 million dollars in venture capital (although this is a drop in the bucket to Google's +100 Billion dollar market value). One of the founders, Anna Patterson, had built a search engine before this one which was bought by Google to upgrade their search engine with the technology. So she's obviously very capable. If this new search engine is equal to or even ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/industry-news/497598-cuil-com-any-thoughts.html better it's going to come down to marketing, something which Google has a far superior position in. Cuil.com does have have at least one very strong selling point that I've seen and that's they won't keep user data. Given the recent situation between Youtube (Google owned) and Viacom and a judge's ruling to hand over user's data (the 2 parties did agree only after that the data would be made anonymous) some people might appreciate this aspect of the new search engine. Of course all the data Google collects is also one of it's strengths since this allows them to do more targeted marketing. I find it interesting that although Wikipedia rules in PageRank on Google, you can search for most anything - name of a band, car brand, tv show, etc. and it will rank in the top 3 of results - you generally won't see this on Cuil. Clearly Wikipedia gets lots of traffic and is usually very relevant information. I wonder what it is about Cuil's methods of indexing that gives Wikipedia a poor showing? Any ideas on this? __________________ :)

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SimpleMan NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 5,050	This is a heck of a lot more than just a few engineers starting up their own Google (or attempting to, anyway). Monier is involved in the project, the name might not ring a bell, but he worked with the likes of Altavista when it was the Google of its era. Arguably, some of Monier's innovations later led to Google. There are other names in there, just as bright. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=497598 Search engines are constantly involving and there are some very bright minds behind Cuil, just as there are at Google. Google has already started to show some signs of problems, though as with anything these can be worked out. I think the time is ripe if the competitor brings something new to the table. Microsoft and Yahoo don't get it - so it's not like Google has simply been dominating the excellent competition out there. Google is indeed a juggernaut, and I don't want my last statement to take away from that or try and diminish them, but even a company Google could go down the drain with the innovations that are out there. Google has built a monopoly, but fortunately no company can ever really get a monopoly on ideas in this market. Only time will tell if these folks succeed, but this is not just another search engine copy. I, for one, welcome the competition.

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*johname* Business Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,006	You think they would have the money to come up with a better name There supose to have 3 times the index papes of google, all the people that complain about their parked pages not being on google should suport Cuil.com

07-28-2008, 02:55 PM	#18 (permalink)
*johname* Business Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,006	So far i dont care for it, but ill keep playing with it

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SimpleMan NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 5,050	If you click "Webmaster Info" you can submit your website at the bottom. I don't think they've full on let it index quite yet. I don't so much mind cuil as a name, it's only four letters and will be memorable. Google, though hard to imagine, is a typo itself.

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CureCancer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,165	I just send a letter to CUIL.com team, I questioned their pick Cuil.com with 33 Million Dollar Budget! I just provided them with my feedback. A positive approach. and also gave them options to what is brandable VS cuil Cuil just doesn't sell it, it will fail on TV and Radio... and I know this, cause i work in entertainment... the EAR and EYE are very picky.... Get it right the first time and win! __________________ Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth. Abraham Lincoln

07-28-2008, 03:43 PM	#23 (permalink)
*johname* Business Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,006	"Founded by husband-and-wife team Tom Costello and Anna Patterson" At least take a hyphenated form of your husband's name lol

07-28-2008, 03:57 PM	#24 (permalink)
Ross Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,132	Im sorry but the whole thing is fail IMO. I dont like the design, the search results, and the placement of webpages. Not to mention the column thing is just really really tacky. Sorry but google is still #1 and will remain #1.

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