Microsoft 'Done' With Yahoo, Ballmer Says

WhoNet · 07-26-2008, 09:09 AM

Microsoft 'Done' With Yahoo, Ballmer Says

Paul McDougall / InformationWeek / July 25, 2008

The Microsoft CEO dismissed Yahoo as a major player in the Internet business, despite previously offering more than $40 billion for the company.

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Microsoft's on-again, off-again pursuit of Yahoo is off again -- sort of, maybe. Speaking to investment analysts Thursday, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said that his company is no longer interested in acquiring the Internet portal. "We're done, we can move on," said Ballmer.

Ballmer, however, qualified the statement in his next breath. "Does that mean that nobody will ever talk to anybody again? I suspect that the answer to that question is also no," said Ballmer. "It's a long time and a big world," he added.

Ballmer called Microsoft's proposed acquisition of Yahoo, which was rejected by Yahoo's board, "a tactic" for growing its search advertising business, "not a strategy."
"Ante up, focus, reinvent the innovation, the investment in semantic expertise, that's the strategy," said Ballmer.

Ballmer also appeared to dismiss Yahoo as a major player in the Internet business, even though he previously offered more than $40 billion for the company. "I think what we really still have in search and advertising is a two-horse race," said Ballmer, referring to Microsoft and rival Google.

"Yahoo will stay around. I'm sure they'll find their path. And yet, for the kind of ante we're talking about in this game, I think it really is just the two of us," he said.

Yahoo said Monday that it had reached a settlement with Carl Icahn under which the billionaire investor agreed to drop his fight for control of Yahoo's board as part of his effort to force a deal with Microsoft.

Under the agreement, Icahn -- who owns about 5% of Yahoo's shares -- will get a seat on Yahoo's board and is entitled to recommend individuals from a list of nine candidates for two additional board seats. Yahoo's board expands from nine members to 11 members as part of the arrangement.

Yahoo said that eight of its current board members, including chairman Roy Bostock and CEO Jerry Yang, will run for reelection at its Aug. 1 shareholder meeting in San Francisco. Current board member Robert Kotick has decided to vacate his position, Yahoo said.

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**Ronald Regging** · 07-26-2008, 09:46 AM

Microsoft is deluded if they think it's a two horse race.

johname · 07-29-2008, 06:05 PM

They will be back, T boon picken sold his shares of yahoo yesterday for a loss.

1901gt · 07-29-2008, 09:25 PM

My opinion..
Google > Yahoo > Microsoft

johname · 07-29-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by adiboy

My opinion..
Google > Yahoo > Microsoft

Thats why Microsoft wants Yahoo

rjmlar · 08-03-2008, 09:31 PM

Ever try to remove Yahoo crap from a PC that installed without the user asking for it? Their instant messenger is a malware gateway and Yahoo mail is the tool of choice for spammers and phishers. And how on earth does their cheezy UI compete with Gmail or MSN, anyway? I tell unknowing surfers to avoid Yahoo. It's no mystery to me why their stocks keep dropping: the company is operated by yahoos.

netzilla · 08-04-2008, 08:04 AM

IMO...instead of pursing Y! why don't they take the time, money, and resources and improve their own search engine technology. I realize that Y! is more than just a search engine these days but the technology they use is something I am sure MS could easily duplicate. Just a thought.

rjmlar · 08-04-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by netzilla

IMO...instead of pursing Y! why don't they take the time, money, and resources and improve their own search engine technology.

It would be far cheaper and faster to buy it ready-made.

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I realize that Y! is more than just a search engine these days but the technology they use is something I am sure MS could easily duplicate. Just a thought.

Yahoo is an "indexing service" so Microsoft would be acquiring much more than a search engine.

kemjika11 · 08-04-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by adiboy

My opinion..
Google > Yahoo > Microsoft

I understand its your opinion, but on a general scale, there's no way(to me at least) that yahoo> msft.

Microsoft has too much $$$ and resources to compete well and expend some fools.......

rjmlar · 08-04-2008, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kemjika11

...there's no way(to me at least) that yahoo> msft.

I agree. Microsoft should slurp Yahoo for what it's worth and spit out the other 90 percent.

NameCharger · 08-04-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoNet

The Microsoft CEO dismissed Yahoo as a major player in the Internet business, despite previously offering more than $40 billion for the company.

M$ or not, corporations will not throw $40 billion at minor players.

Shane · 08-04-2008, 02:17 PM

I do not get why Microsoft has not gone for Google. They are much richer are they not?

copper · 08-04-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane

I do not get why Microsoft has not gone for Google. They are much richer are they not?

What is this mean?
Buying Google?
If this is what you mean...
Microsoft do NOT have enough money to buy Google.
Google will NOT sell anyway.

gjvblack · 08-04-2008, 04:29 PM

Im glad Yahoo didn't sell to Microsoft. Yahoo should stay independent and not be owned by Microsoft. Yahoo & Google will never be sold, they are too successful to be sold to company like Microsoft.

kemjika11 · 08-04-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gjvblack

Im glad Yahoo didn't sell to Microsoft. Yahoo should stay independent and not be owned by Microsoft. Yahoo & Google will never be sold, they are too successful to be sold to company like Microsoft.

i AGREE with you. If Yahoo sold, its customers would assume it has finally "sold out". Its stupid that Yahoo even got into these talks if they werent' really desperate or eager to sell the company.

kardel · 08-19-2008, 03:11 PM

Two horse race ! . lol . Its like a prime race horse versus a limping old horse .

fatratstew · 08-20-2008, 03:23 PM

Microsoft + Internet = FAIL

**labrocca** · 08-21-2008, 11:49 AM

I use Yahoo all the time for it's various services (maps, finance, weather) and I never ever use MSN. I believe there are a lot of people that do the same. It's not search that matters from yahoo! but it's services outside of search.

kemjika11 · 08-21-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by labrocca

I use Yahoo all the time for it's various services (maps, finance, weather) and I never ever use MSN. I believe there are a lot of people that do the same. It's not search that matters from yahoo! but it's services outside of search.

well if things other than search are what matter, then you need to pay more attention to MSN. MSN is really churning out quality stuff for consumers. check out their "money" section. Its the best snapshot of any stock you can get from the major portals. Their maps tool, its vey detailed and quality. Their news has great well organized feeds too. don't discount MSN. THey are pumping money in, and its beginning to sho, besides, MSN seems to have some more international feedback than yahoo i suspect.

NP41215 · 09-07-2008, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by netzilla

IMO...instead of pursing Y! why don't they take the time, money, and resources and improve their own search engine technology. I realize that Y! is more than just a search engine these days but the technology they use is something I am sure MS could easily duplicate. Just a thought.

I agree. It will take some time, but the $billions saved will be well worth it.

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Originally Posted by kemjika11

i AGREE with you. If Yahoo sold, its customers would assume it has finally "sold out". Its stupid that Yahoo even got into these talks if they werent' really desperate or eager to sell the company.

I thought the initial offer was generous and that Y should have seized on it. Well, look at where Y is now, $18

Seabass · 09-07-2008, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NP41215

I agree. It will take some time, but the $billions saved will be well worth it.

I thought the initial offer was generous and that Y should have seized on it. Well, look at where Y is now, $18

I personally thing Jerry Yang has mostly done the right things the last two years, albeit way too slowly.

I also think that Yahoo will come around and will shine eventually. There is too much money coming Yahoo's way in the next five years - even if they botch everything and execute poorly the sheer amount of money being moved from Old Media to New Media will spill over into Yahoo's lap.

They can't lose. I'm buying shares.

**labrocca** · 09-07-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kemjika11

well if things other than search are what matter, then you need to pay more attention to MSN. MSN is really churning out quality stuff for consumers. check out their "money" section. Its the best snapshot of any stock you can get from the major portals. Their maps tool, its vey detailed and quality. Their news has great well organized feeds too. don't discount MSN. THey are pumping money in, and its beginning to sho, besides, MSN seems to have some more international feedback than yahoo i suspect.

And you outline why MS needs to buy Yahoo! in the first place. Yahoo! has a long history of servicing this sector and despite how great the MSN portal might be...people have Yahoo! bookmarked instead. I type maps.yahoo.com and finance.yahoo.com on a regular basis. I don't even know what to type or where the MSN services are located.

dezinerite · 09-07-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by adiboy

My opinion..
Google > Yahoo > Microsoft

I share the same opinion.

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