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Old 07-03-2008, 09:08 AM   · #1
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Youtube forced to hand user data to viacom
An interesting piece of news, it seems the courts have ruled to allow viacom to obtain user histories for deleted videos to check if they infringe copyright

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=9242&tag=nl.e539

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Viacom wanted video related data from YouTube’s logging database. That’s a toned down way to say that Viacom wanted login IDs, the time a user watched it, the IP address and the video identifier.

The judge ruled for Viacom and Google has to produce the user histories.



I believe Viacom own Bet, MTV, Paramount, etc.. to name a few of there brandnames.


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Old 07-03-2008, 07:58 PM   · #2
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And what does Viacom intent to do with this user data? Go after every person that infringes on their intellectual property?
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And what does Viacom intent to do with this user data? Go after every person that infringes on their intellectual property?



Thats probably there plan, although it seems a breach of certain data protection acts forcing youtube to hand over data that may or may no be infringing on intellectual property rights.
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:45 AM   · #4
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I thought Viacom was doing this to show that Youtube got popular primarily off of Viacom's products and TV shows and Youtube is not doing enough about it.

Going after Youtube is much more money than filing 1,000,000 individual lawsuits for users. Users didn't do anything wrong.. just watching content that is easily provided by google.
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Originally Posted by FGclips
And what does Viacom intent to do with this user data? Go after every person that infringes on their intellectual property?


err , yes after all it IS copyrighted material
Youtube and all the other Video sites are NOT exempt from the LAW
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Overall i'd say it's a win for Google
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They should provide the information to Viacom on paper.
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So far Google has refused to comply:

Viacom wants to know which videos YouTube employees have watched and uploaded to the site, and Google is refusing to provide that information, CNET News has learned.

This dispute is the reason the two companies, and lawyers representing a group of other copyright holders suing Google, have failed to reach a final agreement on anonymizing personal information belonging to YouTube users, according to two sources close to the situation.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-99...g=2547-1_3-0-20
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They act like YouTube would fold if they didn't host copyrighted material. I watch movies and TV shows online all the time and I can't say I ever saw a link to anything of that nature hosted on YouTube. Not saying that I haven't stumbled upon stuff while on the site, but YouTube is known primarily for all the crazy loonies who post video blogs about stuff no one cares about. Then they post reactions to other people's videos... WTF is that about? I don't know. But my point is that YouTube isn't the massive piracy hub that these companies try to make it out to be. But Google has tons of money, so why not... However, the privacy of it's users should be upheld.
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Maybe they should start looking at Veoh instead..

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They act like YouTube would fold if they didn't host copyrighted material. I watch movies and TV shows online all the time and I can't say I ever saw a link to anything of that nature hosted on YouTube. Not saying that I haven't stumbled upon stuff while on the site, but YouTube is known primarily for all the crazy loonies who post video blogs about stuff no one cares about. Then they post reactions to other people's videos... WTF is that about? I don't know. But my point is that YouTube isn't the massive piracy hub that these companies try to make it out to be. But Google has tons of money, so why not... However, the privacy of it's users should be upheld.

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At least google is fighting back. I wonder how long it would take viacom to read all that info....
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LOL! That would be funny.

I just really hope I don't see Lars Ulrich come out of the woodwork to sue little kids again. This could get messy.
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Googlehave reached a deal with Viacom in that they will supply the data as they have been told to do however usernames and ip's for example will be anonymized so that viacom cannot find out who the users are (however I suspect they will be able to collate the information and see users viewing habits, they just wont know who the user is).

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So people can start getting sued for watching free online videos at no download?!
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Hurley4540 that is really impossible to say unless a test case happens. As far as I am aware it has never happened yet, until it does happen there is no proper way to know whether they would be successful.
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