IEFT planning internationalised email addresses

WhoNet · 09-18-2008, 03:30 AM

Quote:

The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) has published three crucial documents for the standardisation of email address headers that include symbols outside the ASCII character set. This means that soon you'll be able to use Chinese characters, French accents, and German umlauts in email addresses as well as just in the body of the message. So if your name is Zoë and you work for a company that makes façades, you might be interested in a new email address. But representatives of providers are already moaning. They say there would need to be an "upgrade mania" if the Unicode standard UTF-8 is to replace the American Standard Code for Information Interchange (ASCII) currently used as the general email language.

RFC 5335 specifies the use of UTF-8 in practically all email headers. Changes would have to be made to SMTP clients, SMTP servers, mail user agents (MUAs), software for mailing lists, gateways to other media, and everywhere else where email is processed or passed along. RFC 5336 expands the SMTP email transport protocol. At the level of the protocol, the expansion is labelled UTF8SMTP.

A new header field will be added as a sort of "emergency parachute" to ensure that UTF-8 emails have a soft landing if they are thrown out before reaching the recipient by systems that have not been upgraded. The "OldAddress" is a purely ASCII address. But OldAddress is not to be used as a channel for a second transfer attempt, but rather to make sure that feedback is sent home.

Finally, RFC5337 ensures that correct messages are sent pertaining to the delivery status of non-ASCII emails. The correct address of an unreachable addressee must be sent back, even if further transport has been refused. The email Address Internationalization (EAI) working group is also working on a number of "downgrade mechanisms" for various header fields and the envelope. If possible, original header information is to be "packaged" and preserved.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/idn-discussion/515323-ieft-planning-internationalised-email-addresses.html
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=515323

Germany's DeNIC, the registrar for the ".de" domain, is nonetheless taking this in its stride. "There is really not much we can do", explained DeNIC spokesperson Klaus Herzig. DeNIC is instead paying more attention to the update that the IETF is working on for the standard of international domains – RFC3490, or IDNA2003 as it's sometimes known. "We are not that happy about it because there is no backwards compatibility," Herzig explained. When the update comes, DeNIC says it will be throwing its weight behind the symbol "ß" - also known as estzett - which has been overlooked up to now. The German registrar also says that it may wait a bit before switching in light of the lack of backward compatibility. Once the new standard is running stably and registrars and providers have adopted it, the ß will be added.

In contrast, experts believe that Chinese registrars in China and Taiwan will quickly implement the change for internationalised email. Representatives of CNIC and TWNIC are authors of the standards. Chinese users currently have to write emails in ASCII to the left of the @ and in Chinese characters to the right of it for Chinese domains, which have already been internationalized.

(Monika Ermert)

網域名稱投資人部落 - Domain Name Investors Blog

Fka200 · 09-18-2008, 04:04 AM

I had one guy try to get a discount on a domain just because he couldn't setup an IDN e-mail address... told him to refrain from e-mailing me.

Hopefully after this is implemented

1) The prices will be 5000% what they are today
2) He would have saved up enough to purchase the domain

npcomplete · 09-18-2008, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Fka200

I had one guy try to get a discount on a domain just because he couldn't setup an IDN e-mail address... told him to refrain from e-mailing me.

Hopefully after this is implemented

1) The prices will be 5000% what they are today
2) He would have saved up enough to purchase the domain

Funny!

My guess is that you told the guy asking for a discount that IDN prices are *already* discounted for this fact about email, and is fully reflected in the current asking price.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=515323
I don't know about the 5000%, maybe higher, maybe lower, but the one thing we know for sure is that prices will go *way* up once the world discovers that these names are now "fully usable" in the classic sense.

Tell him to *buy now* like all those Dynadot emails we all get, "before the increase in prices". This proposal should by itself be a major selling point for IDNers.

"Hurry, because these prices won't last."

Fka200 · 09-18-2008, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by npcomplete

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=515323
Tell him to *buy now* like all those Dynadot emails we all get, "before the increase in prices". This proposal should by itself be a major selling point for IDNers.

Trust me... I'm in NO hurry to get rid of this name. It's either I get the price I want or no sale.

I think once full functionality comes, things are going to go insane... although I DO NOT think IDN e-mails are practical. Helpful, yes, but NOT practical.

npcomplete · 09-18-2008, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Fka200

Trust me... I'm in NO hurry to get rid of this name. It's either I get the price I want or no sale.

I think once full functionality comes, things are going to go insane... although I DO NOT think IDN e-mails are practical. Helpful, yes, but NOT practical.

And of course, we can all look forward to improvements in the spam situation

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=515323

After the market meltdown this week, I would be in no hurry to sell either. Markets affect each other.

09-18-2008, 04:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Fka200 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,594	I had one guy try to get a discount on a domain just because he couldn't setup an IDN e-mail address... told him to refrain from e-mailing me. Hopefully after this is implemented 1) The prices will be 5000% what they are today 2) He would have saved up enough to purchase the domain __________________ Domain News \| City Classified Shoes \| Shoetopia \| Soda Shoes

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)