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Old 11-02-2008, 10:07 PM THREAD STARTER               #1 (permalink)
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Help! I Need Opinions, Thoughts on my 1st Banner, Possibly Remake Next Month after Rotation


Hi Guys.

I currently have this Animated Banner running on a couple foums but i don't know if it's having the effect that I was hoping for.
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I've attached the file in a zip file just in case the file above doesnt show up correctly so that it can be downloaded to be seen.

I run a free website for Dealers and Vendors to sign up and to post their products for free.

I'm trying to attract Dealers and Vendors and at the same time new Visitors.

Am i getting the point across, Are there things that I can change, Wording, Colors, Slow it down Speed it up?

I've tried different colors but with the images in the background most colors just don't show up that well, So this is where I last left it.

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Doesn't look attractive to me mate... Looks more like a scam scheme.
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Originally Posted by Xavier_3D
Doesn't look attractive to me mate... Looks more like a scam scheme.
A Scam Scheme to what, I don't understand how?
What Suggestions or thoughts do you have then to attract the type of people i'm looking to attract then? Is it the Big Dollar Signs?
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it's too big in file size you can still compress them.
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Originally Posted by weblord
it's too big in file size you can still compress them.
Okay,.. the file size i can deal with no problem.

Hows the Banner itself?
The guy above says it seems like a Scam.
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it's too wordy, can you show one product image there and minimize the words? including the url for me is fine.

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Okay,.. the file size i can deal with no problem.

Hows the Banner itself?
The guy above says it seems like a Scam.
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Originally Posted by weblord
it's too wordy, can you show one product image there and minimize the words? including the url for me is fine.
I wanted to try to let Dealers and Vendors know about the site.

Theres not a lot of sites like mine so i was trying to attact the dealers and vendors and not the everyday customers or people looking to buy stuff if that makes any since.

I'm wanting Dealers and Vendors to add their products to my site.
How am i saying that if i just have my URL there?

I know theres something wrong with this Banner and that this Banner just is'nt the right Banner for my site.
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The trick is finding the right words and not saying to much and at the same time not saying to little but being able to get the point across to the right people.

Maybe i need it to say something like,...

"The Right Place For RC Dealers & Vendors To Be."
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Please,...

Any Suggestions and Thoughts would be very much Appreciated.

I don't understand why i'm not too many people are willing to help me out,... Is it because I'm still a Newbie? I do appreciate all the help that i have received.

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i think with that amount of words you have there, you need to have it at least sized at 728x90 then try to do something with the text
samples are here:
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the principle to handle wordy banners
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Originally Posted by weblord
i think with that amount of words you have there, you need to have it at least sized at 728x90 then try to do something with the text
samples are here:
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http://partner.domaining.com/banners...r-728x90-3.gif
the principle to handle wordy banners

The size of the banner is the required by the Forums that I have them currently being hosted on. Actually one of them actually requires the banner to be 450x110. The Banner above is 450x100 so this is what i have to work with ATM.

Does this make more since to you now? Do you understand where I'm coming from better?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=529874

It's not that easy to make a banner in such weird dimensions but this is what i have to work with so i'm asking for help from people who understand these sorts of things much more than I do, So please,... Has anyone Seen my website and the type of site that it is and what I offer? I don't sell anything, I only offer a free service to my visitors to help them to try and find what they are looking for faster in the line of RC Products.

Could someone or would someone be willing to possibly help me come up with some ideas i might be able to use to put a banner together to help attract RC Dealers and Vendors?

I couldnt even tell you how many Dealers and Vendors i've emailed going thur Google and Yahoo.

I just don't understand why they wouldnt want to list their Item.

I don't know if they might be affraid of being seen that someone else is selling something else cheaper than they are or what. I always thought that It came down to customer service. If you offer great customer service. Your customers are going to be there. If you offer Low Prices and Crappy Customer Service, Thats why we have a Ratings Features. Maybe they're affraid of that,.. Who know.

Even if they only listed a few items, just to get the extra Customer Traffic to their would be better than nothing i would think. IDK!

I have to reboot my pc,...
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if you have viewed the 2 banners (irregardless of sizes) you can pick up some principles on it, regarding wordy banners.
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Originally Posted by weblord
if you have viewed the 2 banners (irregardless of sizes) you can pick up some principles on it, regarding wordy banners.
Those are nice banners of course. I see those up top all the time here but i'm sure that if they were told to make them in a 450x100or110 size they would look a lot different wouldnt you think?

If i could put everything on one single sized long banner i could probably put everything i have said on that also.

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My Problem is,... I believe that my Whole Working is wrong on the 1st page of the banner and I still don't understand by what Xavier_3D was saying by when he said that he thought it sounded like a Scam Scheme He hasnt returned to revoice his opinion on that.
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Wording Is The Key...
I think i need to shorten my banner and get rid of the animation.

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in that case you need a designer
http://www.namepros.com/web-development-wanted/
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Originally Posted by weblord
in that case you need a designer
http://www.namepros.com/web-development-wanted/
good luck
And with the Lack of Skill that I have of not being able to put Drawings of Backgrounds and Inserts and Suchs I think i just might have to do that.

The bad thing about this whole thing is FUNDS. I just Spends a lot of money renovating that website of mine all for something that I make no money on.
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I'm looking towards the Future tho and hoping that something might come my way late on.

How much do you know about Banner Creation and the Cost of Banner Creation?

What would be the about the Ave Cost? Could I even get anything for,.. Say,.. $20,.. $30 Dollars?

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20 to 30 you name your price i guess since you're the one requesting
http://www.namepros.com/web-development-wanted/
try it out

or run a banner design contest, read the rules first
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where you will only pay for one best design.
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Originally Posted by weblord
20 to 30 you name your price i guess since you're the one requesting
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http://www.namepros.com/web-development-wanted/
try it out

or run a banner design contest, read the rules first
http://www.namepros.com/design-contests/

where you will only pay for one best design.
Weblord,...

I don't even know your real name but i want to Thank You for all of your help.
I'll look in to those threads and see what i can come up with and see if i can get a better design for the price i'm willing to pay.

Thank You again for all of your help and suggestions. and Position +Karma if you believe if that kind of stuff to you and yours.

Have a Good Night.

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LOL,.. Yeah i noticed that about 2 seconds after i posted the message and yes,.. I did leave you Karma. /bow

I see you have Many, PhpLinkDirectory.com in your Sig.
James from there was pretty much was the one who built my site, Great guy.

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I could always use a Karma Hit for Good Luck Too Please.
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LOL,.. Yeah i noticed that about 2 seconds after i posted the message and yes,.. I did leave you Karma. /bow

I see you have Many, PhpLinkDirectory.com in your Sig.
James from there was pretty much was the one who built my site, Great guy.

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I could always use a Karma Hit for Good Luck Too Please.

Welcome to NPs Mate,

I applaud your astute recognition ..... If you have the interest I would suggest you view some of Weblords posts. Go to his profile page and click on the link provided to see all his posts. His advice is usually dead on and you can trust is motive.

There are many quality members here at NPs that will help other members. Weblord is one of them. The design and contest forums, "he" suggested and linked for you, are a great place start.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=529874

As to the banner.

A nice clean crisp clear banner with an accent of animation. Nothing over whelming and distracting. You have too much going on here. Less is more ..... Use the same color scheme as your site.


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Welcome to NPs Mate,

I applaud your astute recognition ..... If you have the interest I would suggest you view some of Weblords posts. Go to his profile page and click on the link provided to see all his posts. His advice is usually dead on and you can trust is motive.

There are many quality members here at NPs that will help other members. Weblord is one of them. The design and contest forums, "he" suggested and linked for you, are a great place start.

As to the banner.

A nice clean crisp clear banner with an accent of animation. Nothing over whelming and distracting. You have too much going on here. Less is more ..... Use the same color scheme as your site.


Good luck with all your ventures
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Theuniverse,... & Namenut,...

Thanks Guys for stopping by and Yes,... I have and will continued to look in to this because this Banner is certainly Not having the Effect that I had hoped it would have had.

By the way,... Off the tops of your heads,.. Do you guys or possibly maybe if you guys do Design. What are some Names of guys that I should Keep an Eye out for of maybe even try to get in contact with if you feel okay with dropping names?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=529874

As far as Having a "Design Contest", I resd the Rules and the Rules State that no matter what that someone must be paid by the end of the closing of the Contest Date. And what I'm looking for in a design must be very clear in Attracting RC Dealers, Vendors to Join my site and to Promote their Products plus attracting new Visitors to see those products all in one Banner.

And thats the hard part, Coming up with the right Wording as we had talked about above.

Last night i went through many of the contest threads a found a couple that it seemed like even though they werent that thrilled with the results of the finally banners they did end up paying.

Thats why i want to try and find several people that are already willing to already help me before i start a contest or just if someone is friendly enough to just help me out and do a side job for me on the side or something,...

Anyway,...

Thanks for Stopping By and Thanks for your Support and Yes I'll re-visit Weblord Profile page and see what more i can learn from it.

BTW Theuniverse What does Medium Look Mean?

Thanks again.

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Jim,

I saw your post and well I wanted to give you a hand, perhaps this is more like what you want to place in your page, I gathered all the elements from your site, is more interactive , the colors are alive and the movement is catchy ( it grabs the visitor attention, and the name of the website sits still, never leaving the frame) - the offer for the vendors and dealers is pretty much straight forward, simple - and for the visitors the same .. remember, sometimes less is more ... and with the smaller banner, always use less text and more images to get your point across, it may be more effective, specially in the niche that you are in (RC Models). Well I hope you like what I did ... worry not about payment .... as some say here .. SOMETIMES WE ALL NEED GOOD KARMA ...
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I saw your post and well I wanted to give you a hand, perhaps this is more like what you want to place in your page, I gathered all the elements from your site, is more interactive , the colors are alive and the movement is catchy ( it grabs the visitor attention, and the name of the website sits still, never leaving the frame) - the offer for the vendors and dealers is pretty much straight forward, simple - and for the visitors the same .. remember, sometimes less is more ... and with the smaller banner, always use less text and more images to get your point across, it may be more effective, specially in the niche that you are in (RC Models). Well I hope you like what I did ... worry not about payment .... as some say here .. SOMETIMES WE ALL NEED GOOD KARMA ...
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Neopolus,...
I /bow to You for Such a Great Banner which I Could have Never Made and yes,... I Leave you + Karma in So Many Ways, Much more than just Clicking the Karma Button. I Thank You.

The Thing is tho,... I Need a Banner to Display on other Sites Not Mine to Attract those Dealers and Vendors. How effective do you feel this banner will work if i were to use it on other sites to try and use it as such? IDK?

Very Cool Banner. I'm now wondering if i should replace my Logo with this Banner or Possible place this Banner down at the bottom with the other Banners. Hmm.

Thanks a Bunch Neopolus.
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Hi Jim,

Well this banner is designed to do be placed in another sites, if you take a closer look I used your faded gray background, and the blue colors on the site, I used a different font since I could not find one that resemble the one you have, reason being - the elements are important and are from your site, you have to create some sort of attraction to your visitors, and the banner takes some elements from the site, now - I would not recommend using the banner on the site, use it in some other sites - I have a couple of more hours to spare tonight ( Wife is with in laws, traveling) I can hook you up with a kick ass header for your site - ( send me a Private Message with the specs of your current header (logo) and I'll have it done.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=529874

Now, test the banner, the best way to do this is place the banner in RC Forums and get oppinions, just like you did here, it will not only bring your traffic, but also will get you an inside of what people is looking for - Remember use the banner outside your site, if you use it inside it will be repetitive and people may be turned off and click away.

Another great way to test it is getting google analitycs in your site, and have one of the banners directed to that system so you can measure how does it work for you ...

Best of Luck, and I am glad you liked the banner.

Let me know about the header ...

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Thank You so much for your Help. Your a Great Guy to be Helping me out.
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