Flash for SEO

abadip · 07-10-2008, 11:40 PM

Can you tell me is website flash good for SEO?

dmi · 07-11-2008, 02:09 AM

No. Spiders can't "read" flash...

weblord · 07-11-2008, 02:14 AM

good news
Google Now Crawling and Indexing Flash Content

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Historically, search engines have been unable to extract content, such as text and links, from Flash (SWF) files. Subsequently, much of the Flash-based content on the web has been unavailable in search results. This situation has been frustrating for web developers, who have tried to come up with workarounds to help get search engines to index and rank their Flash pages.

This situation hasn't been ideal for searchers either, as this limitation has kept them from seeing potentially great matches for their queries because they've been locked away in Flash files.

According to Adobe and Google, all of that is changing. Google is launching what they tell me is a "deep algorithmic change," augmented by Flash reader technology supplied by Adobe, that enables them to "read" Flash files and extract text and links from it for better indexing and ranking. This could be great news for both site owners and searchers.

Below, more details about how it all works, as well as some caveats for those who see this development as a Flash panacea and think they no longer have to ensure their Flash applications are search engine friendly.

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http://searchengineland.com/080701-000002.php

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Originally Posted by dmi

No. Spiders can't "read" flash...

dmi · 07-11-2008, 02:18 AM

I read about that. However, I think it will not be fully functional (the same as regular non-flash content). I'd rather go without flash anyhow...

weblord · 07-11-2008, 02:22 AM

when they perfect it, it will be like just crawling .pdf

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Originally Posted by dmi

I read about that. However, I think it will not be fully functional (the same as regular non-flash content). I'd rather go without flash anyhow...

shockie · 07-11-2008, 04:32 AM

flash for seo is a bad idea, despite the recent news about crawling .swfs (not .flvs). as for crawling .pdfs, google has been having issues figuring out which language a site is based on .pdfs, so hopefully they tone that down a bit. allowing textual elements to be crawled is only a small part in helping with seo, and all the graphical stuff still has a long way to go.

more caveats to flash files being only partially indexed.

... and since people use flash for all the fancy graphics etc, the mindset should be to use all little flash as possible.

weblord · 07-11-2008, 06:58 PM

thanks for the headsup.

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Originally Posted by shockie

flash for seo is a bad idea, despite the recent news about crawling .swfs (not .flvs). as for crawling .pdfs, google has been having issues figuring out which language a site is based on .pdfs, so hopefully they tone that down a bit. allowing textual elements to be crawled is only a small part in helping with seo, and all the graphical stuff still has a long way to go.

more caveats to flash files being only partially indexed.

... and since people use flash for all the fancy graphics etc, the mindset should be to use all little flash as possible.

Vilice · 07-16-2008, 08:34 PM

I agree

Lucysmith · 10-13-2008, 10:06 PM

No Flash is not as good as other methods so don't go for it

philski · 10-23-2008, 12:21 AM

Well yes and no. I have seen sites in full flash that rank for BIG keywords.

And no spiders cant pull any lexicals out of flash, BUT they can and do read META.

basicly only few things to optimize for flash, i can think of, at least.
All are easy.

know your market.

1, Your domain name.
2, Having the domain kewords in your title and in the same order

3, Get trusted links.
you may only need a dozen or so links to out rank anyone in your target market

Some negs about flash. If your site takes 10 min to load, your customers will leave, even if your no1 on google for every keyword know to man.

Phillip

evtimii · 10-23-2008, 06:18 AM

You can make a combination of flash and html (xhtml/css). Make a flash header, footer some nice buttons but don't use flash in the text information areas. It's a little bit limited solution for the design, but a search engine optimized.

proson · 10-24-2008, 12:47 AM

an aggressive approach will be adding the flash content in text of the web page.
and google so far I know can only index simple web link in flash content and that's it!

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philski NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sheffield Tasmania Posts: 286 89.35 NP$ (Donate)	Well yes and no. I have seen sites in full flash that rank for BIG keywords. And no spiders cant pull any lexicals out of flash, BUT they can and do read META. basicly only few things to optimize for flash, i can think of, at least. All are easy. know your market. 1, Your domain name. 2, Having the domain kewords in your title and in the same order 3, Get trusted links. you may only need a dozen or so links to out rank anyone in your target market Some negs about flash. If your site takes 10 min to load, your customers will leave, even if your no1 on google for every keyword know to man. Phillip __________________ SIG FOR SALE Last edited by philski; 10-23-2008 at 12:26 AM.

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