Untargeted and targeted US traffic

xpfreedom · 04-15-2004, 07:17 PM

Hey all,

I'm sure that you are tired of reading posts dealing with paid traffic. There is a lot of discussion about traffic being fake or "blind", and generally just a waste of money. I thought that this might be a good time to step in and show what I've got for sale.

First, my site is www.ReliableTraffic.net. *Please disregard how we receive traffic!* This site has not been updated since we have changed traffic sources. I should cover that first, as it's one of the most important factors for determining the quality of the traffic.

I will start by telling the honest truth. My site is a traffic reseller. We do not generate traffic! It is purchased from a company that has an advertising network set up. This company (that will remain undisclosed for obvious reasons) advertises on websites that are already receiving return traffic. The advertisements are shown on 800x600 popunders. I'm very sorry to say that I can't tell you what sites are used for advertising because our traffic company will not tell us. I was told that the reason they do this is that they can't surrender the names of the advertisers, otherwise your "average Joe" can advertise on the site.

I asked the company if I could try to find out where the traffic was coming from. They said that it wouldn't be a problem... So, I had a small page made (I don't program PHP or any other language) that asked you to enter what site was used to get to the current page. Out of 900 visitors, there were about thirty (30) people that entered the page. This allowed me to verify the quality of the traffic. I tried the same test for our previous traffic source, and there were no entries. I later found out that the traffic was driven by spyware.

I would not sell this traffic if it wasn't real. Honesty is very important to me, especially in business. Trust is also as important as honesty. If you are interested in purchasing traffic but have some questions, don't hesitate to ask. It's not hard to answer a question if the truth is being told.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/for-sale-advertising-board/27212-untargeted-and-targeted-us-traffic.html

I guess I should mention more about the traffic. As of now, there are only two different types of traffic available. Untargeted traffic (non-country and non-category specific) and US targeted traffic (category specific). Here are the prices:

Targeted Traffic
10,000 US Visitors - $30.00
15,000 US Visitors - $45.00
20,000 US Visitors - $55.00
25,000 US Visitors - $65.00
50,000 US Visitors - $110.00

Untargeted Traffic
10,000 Visitors - $20.00
15,000 Visitors - $30.00
20,000 Visitors - $35.00
30,000 Visitors - $55.00
50,000 Visitors - $80.00

As with most other paid traffic companies, we can't allow any pages with popups, popunders, installers, or sound. But why? Like I mentioned before, traffic comes from sites that already receive traffic. If the popunders become too distracting, visitors may not return. This also happens to be part of the agreement that our traffic source has made with the sites being used for advertising.

I hope that we can get a customer or two and get some feedback. Like I said, feel free to ask any quesitons. I'll answer them as soon as I can. Thanks for your time.

Killswitch · 04-16-2004, 02:07 PM

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As with most other paid traffic companies, we can't allow any pages with popups, popunders, installers, or sound. But why? Like I mentioned before, traffic comes from sites that already receive traffic. If the popunders become too distracting, visitors may not return. This also happens to be part of the agreement that our traffic source has made with the sites being used for advertising.

so your saying even though we or whoever buys the traffic cant put popups or any of that on the site they bought the traffic for?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=27212

thats not gonna go over well... alot of sites have popups and that and they arnt gonna purchase anything if the company being bought from says they cant... i can understand if it was free traffic, but paid traffic should allow them to have anything legal on their site as they please

it stopped me from buying any... i was gonna purchase 10k just to see how it went... but you said no popups and all that... sure people dont like them, but if im buying it, i should be allowed anything i want that is legal

xpfreedom · 04-17-2004, 12:37 AM

Jaysin,

I'm sorry, I wish I could let you run a 10,000 visitor campaign. There isn't much I can do. Like the description mentions, my site is a reseller, so we must obey the rules of the wholesaler.

Of course, there are sites that allow popups. I suggest having a look at G-Emarketing.com. I'm not too fond of the quality of their traffic, but some of their plans do allow popups.

Hope that helps.

igrowyourbiz.com · 05-01-2004, 07:17 PM

“ As with most other paid traffic companies, we can't allow any pages with popups, popunders, installers, or sound. But why? Like I mentioned before, traffic comes from sites that already receive traffic. If the popunders become too distracting, visitors may not return. This also happens to be part of the agreement that our traffic source has made with the sites being used for advertising. ”

Heres the thing about buying website traffic guys.

1st off NEVER send traffic to your home page -that will get you nowhere -you have TWO SECONDS to get apersons attention with a popunder/over.

Your home page most likely has no ONE particular thing that stands out as you probably have menus, ads, and directions to the rest of your site.

This is probably the NUMBER ONE FRUSTRATION for purchasers -they get no results (sales, signups, members etc)

If more people purchased traffic and sent it to a special offer they would get increased results.

ALWAYS make a special advertisement page as a "landing" page.

We have designers in house and provide that service free for those who cannot create their own ad.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=27212

So the rule about popunders applies to the URL you are sending traffic to. Not the entire site.

Also buy as much traffic as you can afford. Its a numbers game.

Most people click the x faster than you can say Pop--* see! they closed it already!

HINT: make a page that will have a great headline and an enticing offer.

Do not put any sound, script or pops on that PAGE.

Have that page link to your site or order page and put as many pops as you like!!!!

The rules apply to pages shown in the network not an entire site.

KUDOS to you XPFreedom for giving a lil education about traffic.

Just thought i would throw my 2¢ for the industry in.

xpfreedom · 05-01-2004, 09:21 PM

Maurice,

I appreciate your tips/comments, but I don't quite understand why you are halfway advertising for yourself. I created this thread to advertise for my traffic service, not other peoples' traffic. I see that you have created your own thread, so please leave your advertising to that. There are a few things that I could say about your site/service that I'm going to refrain from saying because of how rude it could sound.

I see that you intentionally put your name followed by your website, which bothers me. I can see your regular signature right below it. May I kindly ask that you edit your post to remove your URL? Thanks. Good luck with your service.

turnkey · 05-02-2004, 09:53 AM

Great tips igrowyourbiz, We have been online for years dealing with traffic sites, and yes there are to many people selling traffic out there that you should stay away from.

Now besides the "no popunder" rule that all other have, some do also have a way you can add a pop-under. the major difference is that the supplier pays the sites that are sending the traffic more money to allow one popunder.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=27212

So the resellers have to charge more. Also targeted traffic is much more here because of supply and demand.

Some other tips, besides the great ones that igrowyourbiz,

We have always told our clients to set up a "Sales page" that must have a "CALL TO ACTION"

1. Have a sign up form that gives something free away and explains a benefit to your visitors. At lease you will get some emails to be able to market.

2. Where most traffic sellers do not allow popunder they all allow "BANNER EXCHANGES" Sign up for 2 or 3 banner exchanges that have targeted banners and you can at lease get banners ad's out there.

3. Also Google ad sense is not a bad thing. We send visiits to our site all the time, just to get extra clicks from our ad sense. Made Over $100 bucks on one campaign, Now this is more then other times and lucky I am sure, but try different things.

The main advise is this, stop trying to selling them from your home page and think of ways you can make "BACK END SALES", "GATHER EMAILS OR INFORMATION", "CLICK SALES"

Just our 2cents

anyone have 98cents to make a buck

igrowyourbiz.com · 05-03-2004, 08:34 AM

XP No harm was meant - you seem to have taken great offense. Arent we all in the same industry here?

the web address for our site Traffic Account was to show that we were in the biz, in no way should it take away from you - there is a link to it from our home page at igrowyourbiz anyway.

Not sure what you could say that would be rude -our company has been in business since 1992 and we have ZERO complaints with the Better Business Bureau.

Link has been removed. Im a businessman. No need to be testy -thought we were all friends on this board?

Turnkey,

Great add to our suggestions. I would say if one were to follow all the tips in this thread, they would see a marked increase in response from their traffic campaigns.

BTW -- My 2¢ plus yours gives us 4¢ all we need is someone with 96!

turnkey · 05-03-2004, 05:18 PM

I have to admitt I agree igrowyourbiz, XP I think you might have over done it there. But hey thats only another 2cents, Cool now we are up to 6 cents 94 more to go

xpfreedom · 05-03-2004, 06:55 PM

igrowyourbiz.com, PM sent. Sorry

turnkey · 05-03-2004, 07:06 PM

Hey that was the 94 cents we needed SCORE

igrowyourbiz.com · 05-03-2004, 07:22 PM

PM recieved - no worries

so uh -what we gonna do now we got a dollar?

I hear we can make a long distance call for like 10 minutes with that now.

turnkey · 05-03-2004, 08:01 PM

lol

marcuss · 05-10-2004, 06:51 PM

think you could get quite much new customers if you offered like 200 free visitors at sign up. after signed up and a good outcome there would probably be a lot of additional orders...

igrowyourbiz.com · 05-11-2004, 07:44 AM

yes you are right - we offer several bonus structures at various times.

As a master broker for various networks, We focus on our resellers though and not so much the retail. We private label for our resellers.

So they get a fully functioning order site, great domain name and discounted traffic prices. They can offer any kind of special they like.

04-15-2004, 07:17 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
xpfreedom NamePros Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kansas City Posts: 122	Untargeted and targeted US traffic Hey all, I'm sure that you are tired of reading posts dealing with paid traffic. There is a lot of discussion about traffic being fake or "blind", and generally just a waste of money. I thought that this might be a good time to step in and show what I've got for sale. First, my site is www.ReliableTraffic.net. Please disregard how we receive traffic! This site has not been updated since we have changed traffic sources. I should cover that first, as it's one of the most important factors for determining the quality of the traffic. I will start by telling the honest truth. My site is a traffic reseller. We do not generate traffic! It is purchased from a company that has an advertising network set up. This company (that will remain undisclosed for obvious reasons) advertises on websites that are already receiving return traffic. The advertisements are shown on 800x600 popunders. I'm very sorry to say that I can't tell you what sites are used for advertising because our traffic company will not tell us. I was told that the reason they do this is that they can't surrender the names of the advertisers, otherwise your "average Joe" can advertise on the site. I asked the company if I could try to find out where the traffic was coming from. They said that it wouldn't be a problem... So, I had a small page made (I don't program PHP or any other language) that asked you to enter what site was used to get to the current page. Out of 900 visitors, there were about thirty (30) people that entered the page. This allowed me to verify the quality of the traffic. I tried the same test for our previous traffic source, and there were no entries. I later found out that the traffic was driven by spyware. I would not sell this traffic if it wasn't real. Honesty is very important to me, especially in business. Trust is also as important as honesty. If you are interested in purchasing traffic but have some questions, don't hesitate to ask. It's not hard to answer a question if the truth is being told. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/for-sale-advertising-board/27212-untargeted-and-targeted-us-traffic.html I guess I should mention more about the traffic. As of now, there are only two different types of traffic available. Untargeted traffic (non-country and non-category specific) and US targeted traffic (category specific). Here are the prices: Targeted Traffic 10,000 US Visitors - $30.00 15,000 US Visitors - $45.00 20,000 US Visitors - $55.00 25,000 US Visitors - $65.00 50,000 US Visitors - $110.00 Untargeted Traffic 10,000 Visitors - $20.00 15,000 Visitors - $30.00 20,000 Visitors - $35.00 30,000 Visitors - $55.00 50,000 Visitors - $80.00 As with most other paid traffic companies, we can't allow any pages with popups, popunders, installers, or sound. But why? Like I mentioned before, traffic comes from sites that already receive traffic. If the popunders become too distracting, visitors may not return. This also happens to be part of the agreement that our traffic source has made with the sites being used for advertising. I hope that we can get a customer or two and get some feedback. Like I said, feel free to ask any quesitons. I'll answer them as soon as I can. Thanks for your time. __________________ Kind Regards, Max Feinstein Owner - www.SuperiorTraffic.net

04-17-2004, 12:37 AM	THREAD STARTER #3 (permalink)
xpfreedom NamePros Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kansas City Posts: 122	Jaysin, I'm sorry, I wish I could let you run a 10,000 visitor campaign. There isn't much I can do. Like the description mentions, my site is a reseller, so we must obey the rules of the wholesaler. Of course, there are sites that allow popups. I suggest having a look at G-Emarketing.com. I'm not too fond of the quality of their traffic, but some of their plans do allow popups. Hope that helps. __________________ Kind Regards, Max Feinstein Owner - www.SuperiorTraffic.net

05-01-2004, 07:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
igrowyourbiz.com Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 109	“ As with most other paid traffic companies, we can't allow any pages with popups, popunders, installers, or sound. But why? Like I mentioned before, traffic comes from sites that already receive traffic. If the popunders become too distracting, visitors may not return. This also happens to be part of the agreement that our traffic source has made with the sites being used for advertising. ” Heres the thing about buying website traffic guys. 1st off NEVER send traffic to your home page -that will get you nowhere -you have TWO SECONDS to get apersons attention with a popunder/over. Your home page most likely has no ONE particular thing that stands out as you probably have menus, ads, and directions to the rest of your site. This is probably the NUMBER ONE FRUSTRATION for purchasers -they get no results (sales, signups, members etc) If more people purchased traffic and sent it to a special offer they would get increased results. ALWAYS make a special advertisement page as a "landing" page. We have designers in house and provide that service free for those who cannot create their own ad. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=27212 So the rule about popunders applies to the URL you are sending traffic to. Not the entire site. Also buy as much traffic as you can afford. Its a numbers game. Most people click the x faster than you can say Pop--* see! they closed it already! HINT: make a page that will have a great headline and an enticing offer. Do not put any sound, script or pops on that PAGE. Have that page link to your site or order page and put as many pops as you like!!!! The rules apply to pages shown in the network not an entire site. KUDOS to you XPFreedom for giving a lil education about traffic. Just thought i would throw my 2¢ for the industry in. Last edited by igrowyourbiz.com; 05-03-2004 at 08:33 AM.

05-01-2004, 09:21 PM	THREAD STARTER #5 (permalink)
xpfreedom NamePros Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kansas City Posts: 122	Maurice, I appreciate your tips/comments, but I don't quite understand why you are halfway advertising for yourself. I created this thread to advertise for my traffic service, not other peoples' traffic. I see that you have created your own thread, so please leave your advertising to that. There are a few things that I could say about your site/service that I'm going to refrain from saying because of how rude it could sound. I see that you intentionally put your name followed by your website, which bothers me. I can see your regular signature right below it. May I kindly ask that you edit your post to remove your URL? Thanks. Good luck with your service. __________________ Kind Regards, Max Feinstein Owner - www.SuperiorTraffic.net

05-02-2004, 09:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
turnkey NamePros Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: LI NY Posts: 159 Follow @mydomainfind	Great tips igrowyourbiz, We have been online for years dealing with traffic sites, and yes there are to many people selling traffic out there that you should stay away from. Now besides the "no popunder" rule that all other have, some do also have a way you can add a pop-under. the major difference is that the supplier pays the sites that are sending the traffic more money to allow one popunder. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=27212 So the resellers have to charge more. Also targeted traffic is much more here because of supply and demand. Some other tips, besides the great ones that igrowyourbiz, We have always told our clients to set up a "Sales page" that must have a "CALL TO ACTION" 1. Have a sign up form that gives something free away and explains a benefit to your visitors. At lease you will get some emails to be able to market. 2. Where most traffic sellers do not allow popunder they all allow "BANNER EXCHANGES" Sign up for 2 or 3 banner exchanges that have targeted banners and you can at lease get banners ad's out there. 3. Also Google ad sense is not a bad thing. We send visiits to our site all the time, just to get extra clicks from our ad sense. Made Over $100 bucks on one campaign, Now this is more then other times and lucky I am sure, but try different things. The main advise is this, stop trying to selling them from your home page and think of ways you can make "BACK END SALES", "GATHER EMAILS OR INFORMATION", "CLICK SALES" Just our 2cents anyone have 98cents to make a buck __________________ "A man's worth is not measured in the numbers in his bank account, but in the number of people that call him friend" Your friends at My Domain Find\|My Turnkey Business\|Domains Best Offer\|Turnkey Wordpress Niche Blogs\| Last edited by turnkey; 05-02-2004 at 09:59 AM.

05-03-2004, 08:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
igrowyourbiz.com Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 109	XP No harm was meant - you seem to have taken great offense. Arent we all in the same industry here? the web address for our site Traffic Account was to show that we were in the biz, in no way should it take away from you - there is a link to it from our home page at igrowyourbiz anyway. Not sure what you could say that would be rude -our company has been in business since 1992 and we have ZERO complaints with the Better Business Bureau. Link has been removed. Im a businessman. No need to be testy -thought we were all friends on this board? Turnkey, Great add to our suggestions. I would say if one were to follow all the tips in this thread, they would see a marked increase in response from their traffic campaigns. BTW -- My 2¢ plus yours gives us 4¢ all we need is someone with 96!

05-03-2004, 05:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
turnkey NamePros Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: LI NY Posts: 159 Follow @mydomainfind	I have to admitt I agree igrowyourbiz, XP I think you might have over done it there. But hey thats only another 2cents, Cool now we are up to 6 cents 94 more to go __________________ "A man's worth is not measured in the numbers in his bank account, but in the number of people that call him friend" Your friends at My Domain Find\|My Turnkey Business\|Domains Best Offer\|Turnkey Wordpress Niche Blogs\|

05-03-2004, 06:55 PM	THREAD STARTER #9 (permalink)
xpfreedom NamePros Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kansas City Posts: 122	igrowyourbiz.com, PM sent. Sorry __________________ Kind Regards, Max Feinstein Owner - www.SuperiorTraffic.net

05-03-2004, 07:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
turnkey NamePros Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: LI NY Posts: 159 Follow @mydomainfind	Hey that was the 94 cents we needed SCORE __________________ "A man's worth is not measured in the numbers in his bank account, but in the number of people that call him friend" Your friends at My Domain Find\|My Turnkey Business\|Domains Best Offer\|Turnkey Wordpress Niche Blogs\|

05-03-2004, 07:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
igrowyourbiz.com Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 109	PM recieved - no worries so uh -what we gonna do now we got a dollar? I hear we can make a long distance call for like 10 minutes with that now.

05-03-2004, 08:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
turnkey NamePros Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: LI NY Posts: 159 Follow @mydomainfind	lol __________________ "A man's worth is not measured in the numbers in his bank account, but in the number of people that call him friend" Your friends at My Domain Find\|My Turnkey Business\|Domains Best Offer\|Turnkey Wordpress Niche Blogs\|

05-10-2004, 06:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
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05-11-2004, 07:44 AM	#14 (permalink)
igrowyourbiz.com Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 109	yes you are right - we offer several bonus structures at various times. As a master broker for various networks, We focus on our resellers though and not so much the retail. We private label for our resellers. So they get a fully functioning order site, great domain name and discounted traffic prices. They can offer any kind of special they like.

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