Sedos Great Domains August Auction - P.tv Party.tv Ferien.tv etc

the dot stop · 08-19-2011, 06:46 PM

p.tv 5d 14h 10,100 USD 4
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/727738-sedos-great-domains-august-auction-p.html

ferien.tv 5d 14h 7,000 EUR 2

party.tv 5d 14h 300 EUR 2 BE AWARE
New info as per post #5 - It SHOULD be known that this name most likely has a renewal price tag of $3700 per year!

compare.tv 5d 14h 250 GBP 2

partnerschaft.tv 5d 14h - - -

gop.tv 5d 14h - - -

dem.tv 5d 14h - - -

praktikum.tv 5d 14h

Sedo's August Great Domain Auction...
what are your thoughts?

P.tv is already at over 10k w/4 bidders
How high will this single letter Dot TV go?
I will stick my neck out here and guess 37k.

Party.tv is a killer name IMHO
How high will this go?
Its only at 300 Euros and worth way more then that.
I will guess 4k.

Ferien.tv (German) is already at 7,000 Euros - Holy Crap!

Your thoughts...

idevelop.tv · 08-19-2011, 06:57 PM

IMO
p.tv 15k-20k (if it gets 1 or 2 more bidders interested)

Party.tv max 1200 Euro (realistically around 600 Euro)

I think prices will be down across the board. Money is a little harder to come by these days.

Im after a few, but none are .tv

equity78 · 08-19-2011, 09:39 PM

P.tv I will say $18,000 - $27,000

Party.tv $2500 would not be surprised if it sold much higher but I never think these things are promoted to end users and its only domainers.

orcus · 08-19-2011, 11:37 PM

p.tv - my guess is it will go beyond 20k for sure and I feel party.tv could end up close to 10k

Jimbojimbo · 08-20-2011, 02:49 AM

The inclusion of PARTY.tv does give me some concern that SEDO are helping ruin the reputation of .TV

I was always under the impression that Party.tv was a $3750 a year Legacy Premium - yet in not one part of the auction particulars is this mentioned.

This happens EVERY time SEDO have a sale that includes .TV names.

A blank 'catch-all' stating that 'some' .Tv may be premiums is not really enough to give confidence to new buyers.

If anyone is selling a premium and doesn't declare that it is a premium then they are scum.

the dot stop · 08-20-2011, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Jimbojimbo

The inclusion of PARTY.tv does give me some concern that SEDO are helping ruin the reputation of .TV

I was always under the impression that Party.tv was a $3750 a year Legacy Premium - yet in not one part of the auction particulars is this mentioned.

This happens EVERY time SEDO have a sale that includes .TV names.

A blank 'catch-all' stating that 'some' .Tv may be premiums is not really enough to give confidence to new buyers.

If anyone is selling a premium and doesn't declare that it is a premium then they are scum.

I agree wholeheartedly...Sedo is doing what they can to ruin the reputation of dot tv. I was actually thinking of bidding on party but I am glad you pointed that out Jimbo. I always forget to look that fact up on names just assuming that the Seller would DEFINITELY have shared that one little tid-bit of info w/me because thats the way real honest people act.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=727738

Sedo HAS to be stoppped, and those scumbag sellers who do NOT disclose their yearly insane renewal fees.

We need to send a statement to Sedo. I dont mean a couple of emails cuz thats been done already and they don't listen.

Matter of fact, we should all bid Party.tv up VERY high...(some outrageous price that would make a few blogs, journals) something like $30k+ then walk away and not buy it stating that we just found out about that $3700 a year renewal fee.

**lll** · 08-20-2011, 08:04 AM

Vito buddy, since when do 2 wrongs make a right?

Originally Posted by the dot stop

Matter of fact, we should all bid Party.tv up VERY high...(some outrageous price that would make a few blogs, journals) something like $30k+ then walk away and not buy it stating that we just found out about that $3700 a year renewal fee.

the dot stop · 08-20-2011, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by BD

Vito buddy, since when do 2 wrongs make a right?

Since Sedo continues to not listen to Common Sense and since they continue to hurt the buyers, and since they continue to annihilate an entire extension by not holding those scumbag sellers accountable.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=727738

If they do try to cover their a$$ with that blanket statement, and with us having NO Way in Hell to actually confirm whatever the renewal fees are then they should be accountable along with the Sellers who should be penalized somehow/some way.

Sedo wont make this a priority until it hits them financially, imo.

***twomoon*** · 08-20-2011, 09:26 AM

I think it's better not to bid at all on party.tv and to popularise the info about high renewal fee.
They need to chill out a bit with this domain. I remember in one of the recent Great Domains auctions it has reserve something around 50K EUR (or something like that).
Could you imagine that Sedo will allow such reserve for ANY of dot tv we own? I think no.

Regarding the statement, I think, Vito, they would do nothing. During last 3 years Sedo is ruining itself generally (and it's not only about .tv names). All new changes are sucks. I guess some smart people from domaining pointed to them that what they are doing is wrong - but with no result. I think in a couple of years Sedo will become history.

***Makis.TV*** · 08-20-2011, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by twomoon

I think it's better not to bid at all on party.tv and to popularise the info about high renewal fee.
They need to chill out a bit with this domain. I remember in one of the recent Great Domains auctions it has reserve something around 50K EUR (or something like that).
Could you imagine that Sedo will allow such reserve for ANY of dot tv we own? I think no.

I remember this story as well.
Sedo declined domains of mine like ecology.tv and wanted a no reserve on others while I see them list domains like paytv.tv, whostherenotme.tv and this party.tv for $$$$$(being a premium at the same time)???
Sedo employers are wicked...

the dot stop · 08-20-2011, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Makis.TV

I remember this story as well.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=727738
Sedo declined domains of mine like ecology.tv and wanted a no reserve on others while I see them list domains like paytv.tv, whostherenotme.tv and this party.tv for $$$$$(being a premium at the same time)???
Sedo employers are wicked...

I have an identical story like that for THIS very auction.

They contacted me for Rehab.tv
The letter said they were inviting me to submit my Rehab.tv for this August Great Domains auction.

So I replied and gave them my reserve, along with about 10 other of my killer dot tv domains w/reserves.

My reserve was only 5k, and they said No.
I came bak one more time a day before the auction kicked off and said ok, I can lower it to 4k, since Party is at 3k I figured Rehab with dual meanings was worth twice as much I was sure they would get rehab in there for 4k.

These A-holes who invited me into their auction still said No. What kindof B.S. is that?

This is the second time they've invited me to their auction then basially said Oh yeah Its a Killer name and we want it but you you canNOT have a reserve!

Jimbojimbo · 08-20-2011, 09:56 AM

Vito - no, I don't have the backorder, I was just annoyed to see yet another SEDO piece of crap auction.

How difficult is it for the owners of these names to state that the name is or isn't a premium?

the dot stop · 08-20-2011, 12:08 PM

In comes Bidder #5 to the P.TV auction

P.tv is now at $14,999

*bulkdomainz* · 08-20-2011, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by twomoon

I think it's better not to bid at all on party.tv and to popularise the info about high renewal fee.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=727738
They need to chill out a bit with this domain. I remember in one of the recent Great Domains auctions it has reserve something around 50K EUR (or something like that).
Could you imagine that Sedo will allow such reserve for ANY of dot tv we own? I think no.

Regarding the statement, I think, Vito, they would do nothing. During last 3 years Sedo is ruining itself generally (and it's not only about .tv names). All new changes are sucks. I guess some smart people from domaining pointed to them that what they are doing is wrong - but with no result. I think in a couple of years Sedo will become history.

I agree, and especially with the bolded part! The cr*p method with which decide which names get through the special auctions is especially appalling!

lincolndsp · 08-21-2011, 12:54 AM

Public whois for Party.tv

Updated Date: 28-oct-2010
Creation Date: 07-sep-2001
Expiration Date: 07-sep-2011

the domain is 99.99999999999999999999999% a premium legcy one because if it was not the owner would indicate that fact in the description to attract more attention to his listing!

*theo* · 08-21-2011, 02:44 AM

ferien.tv with 7000 EU bid

MattheP · 08-21-2011, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Jimbojimbo

How difficult is it for the owners of these names to state that the name is or isn't a premium?

And what guarantee we have would have that seller state is true or false?

I am not blaming sedo much about that problem - there should be a way to check domain renewal fee through enom/verisign.

I was about to bid for one name, but I was unsure of it renewal status.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=727738
I contacted enom and some other contact I found regarding .tv domain registry, but nobody replied to my question. What sedo should do? Call verisign for every .tv domain which is listed for auciton or sale? I guess they have same problems about knowing renewal price same as we do.

defaultuser · 08-21-2011, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by MattheP

What sedo should do? Call verisign for every .tv domain which is listed for auciton or sale? I guess they have same problems about knowing renewal price same as we do.

Verisign will not discuss their pricing structure with non-registrars. I'm not even sure they would discuss legacy premiums at all.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=727738

ONLY the seller can really reveal that a name has a steep renewal fee/or what that renewal fee is. I wouldn't expect ENOM to reveal details of a contract to a third party.

If it doesn't say stay away.

*bulkdomainz* · 08-21-2011, 03:59 PM

Let's see who bags Party.TV! Sure somebody somewhere can afford it!

htmlindex · 08-22-2011, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by the dot stop

They contacted me for Rehab.tv
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=727738
The letter said they were inviting me to submit my Rehab.tv for this August Great Domains auction.

So I replied and gave them my reserve, along with about 10 other of my killer dot tv domains w/reserves.

My reserve was only 5k, and they said No.
I came bak one more time a day before the auction kicked off and said ok, I can lower it to 4k, since Party is at 3k I figured Rehab with dual meanings was worth twice as much I was sure they would get rehab in there for 4k.

These A-holes who invited me into their auction still said No. What kindof B.S. is that?

This is the second time they've invited me to their auction then basially said Oh yeah Its a Killer name and we want it but you you canNOT have a reserve!

Is there something you need to do for them to specifically invite you to submit your .tv names for their auctions? I've never been invited to submit any of my names & when I submit anything on my own accord, they've always been rejected!

defaultuser · 08-22-2011, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by the dot stop

They contacted me for Rehab.tv

They tried to make me send in Rehab
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=727738
And I say No, No, No!

Lyrics by Vito Winehouse

the dot stop · 08-22-2011, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by bulkdomainz

Sure somebody somewhere can afford it!

I doubt it.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=727738

That could have been you or I who bought this great domain, and I know I cannot afford $3700 (If that even IS the yearly renewal???) per year for a domain that I am just adding to my portfolio of hundreds of investment domains.

Matter of fact, I dont know anyone who could justify that yearly renewal price without a plan of development.

Originally Posted by htmlindex

Is there something you need to do for them to specifically invite you to submit your .tv names for their auctions? I've never been invited to submit any of my names & when I submit anything on my own accord, they've always been rejected!

No, there is nothing I have done at all with my domains to get an email invitation to their auction. I havent applied for their Featured domains listings or anything.

Am I lucky, I dont think so since neither of my 2 domains they have sent me an invite for has made it to their Great Domains auctions.

A sales rep over there just sent me the invite for rehab a couple of weeks ago, then a year or 2 ago another sales manager sent me an email for another one of my stellar dot tv's (LOL) but as I replied back with my reserves they said they had to talk to their manager....blah, blah, blah.

Their main objective was both times was to talk me into sending them both to auction with no reserve. HA!

So, to tell you the truth it was all just a serious waste of my time.

I have no idea how they add domains into their auctions, especially domains with $x,xxx reserves?

Maybe they add domains that they have worked with before in their brokering dept. where they know someone is definitely going to make a bid on them...

Maybe they just allow their friends to add their names...

maybe you have to grease their palms a few hundred dollars to get your domains into auction...

IDK?

Either way, they still suck but unfortunately they are the biggest game in town right now.

menzl · 08-22-2011, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by the dot stop

Matter of fact, we should all bid Party.tv up VERY high...(some outrageous price that would make a few blogs, journals) something like $30k+ then walk away and not buy it stating that we just found out about that $3700 a year renewal fee.

Then along comes the one or two+ people who see that there is a demand for the name so they join in and maybe win the auction. Since several people are apparently willing to spend x amount of dollars at least this limits their risk. That winner's thinking may be faulty or they may be a newbie (whatever), but I'd say their participation is influenced by the false market for the name. Maybe they repeat this for awhile.

*bulkdomainz* · 08-23-2011, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by the dot stop

I doubt it.

That could have been you or I who bought this great domain, and I know I cannot afford $3700 (If that even IS the yearly renewal???) per year for a domain that I am just adding to my portfolio of hundreds of investment domains.

Matter of fact, I dont know anyone who could justify that yearly renewal price without a plan of development.

Somebody who wants it badly! LOL! It would have to be a developer!

Originally Posted by the dot stop

I have no idea how they add domains into their auctions, especially domains with $x,xxx reserves?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=727738

Maybe they add domains that they have worked with before in their brokering dept. where they know someone is definitely going to make a bid on them...

Maybe they just allow their friends to add their names...

maybe you have to grease their palms a few hundred dollars to get your domains into auction...

IDK?

Either way, they still suck but unfortunately they are the biggest game in town right now.

They must use a very very complex system!

hullswingerscom · 08-25-2011, 01:34 PM

i dont realy think .tv should be in any auction until the yearly renewal on premium names is ended ..tv holders are not playing on a level playing field.

08-19-2011, 06:46 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
the dot stop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: DomainSales.TV Posts: 3,585 Follow @thedotstop	Sedos Great Domains August Auction - P.tv Party.tv Ferien.tv etc p.tv 5d 14h 10,100 USD 4 ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/727738-sedos-great-domains-august-auction-p.html ferien.tv 5d 14h 7,000 EUR 2 party.tv 5d 14h 300 EUR 2 BE AWARE New info as per post #5 - It SHOULD be known that this name most likely has a renewal price tag of $3700 per year! compare.tv 5d 14h 250 GBP 2 partnerschaft.tv 5d 14h - - - gop.tv 5d 14h - - - dem.tv 5d 14h - - - praktikum.tv 5d 14h Sedo's August Great Domain Auction... what are your thoughts? P.tv is already at over 10k w/4 bidders How high will this single letter Dot TV go? I will stick my neck out here and guess 37k. Party.tv is a killer name IMHO How high will this go? Its only at 300 Euros and worth way more then that. I will guess 4k. Ferien.tv (German) is already at 7,000 Euros - Holy Crap! Your thoughts... __________________ DomainSales.tv ANALYZE.TV Last edited by the dot stop; 08-20-2011 at 09:34 AM.

08-19-2011, 09:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	P.tv I will say $18,000 - $27,000 Party.tv $2500 would not be surprised if it sold much higher but I never think these things are promoted to end users and its only domainers. __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

08-19-2011, 11:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
orcus NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 562 Follow @istrums	p.tv - my guess is it will go beyond 20k for sure and I feel party.tv could end up close to 10k __________________ My Sedo Portfolio

08-20-2011, 02:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jimbojimbo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,951	The inclusion of PARTY.tv does give me some concern that SEDO are helping ruin the reputation of .TV I was always under the impression that Party.tv was a $3750 a year Legacy Premium - yet in not one part of the auction particulars is this mentioned. This happens EVERY time SEDO have a sale that includes .TV names. A blank 'catch-all' stating that 'some' .Tv may be premiums is not really enough to give confidence to new buyers. If anyone is selling a premium and doesn't declare that it is a premium then they are scum. __________________ blah blah blah

08-20-2011, 09:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
*twomoon* Lead farmer Join Date: May 2008 Location: Voodoo.TV Posts: 3,942 Follow @Voodoo_TV	I think it's better not to bid at all on party.tv and to popularise the info about high renewal fee. They need to chill out a bit with this domain. I remember in one of the recent Great Domains auctions it has reserve something around 50K EUR (or something like that). Could you imagine that Sedo will allow such reserve for ANY of dot tv we own? I think no. Regarding the statement, I think, Vito, they would do nothing. During last 3 years Sedo is ruining itself generally (and it's not only about .tv names). All new changes are sucks. I guess some smart people from domaining pointed to them that what they are doing is wrong - but with no result. I think in a couple of years Sedo will become history. __________________ my .tv domains - voodoo.tv / twomoon.com - my other domains FlyingDutchman.com - the legend of the Flying Dutchman

08-19-2011, 06:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
idevelop.tv NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 260	IMO p.tv 15k-20k (if it gets 1 or 2 more bidders interested) Party.tv max 1200 Euro (realistically around 600 Euro) I think prices will be down across the board. Money is a little harder to come by these days. Im after a few, but none are .tv

08-20-2011, 09:56 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jimbojimbo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,951	Vito - no, I don't have the backorder, I was just annoyed to see yet another SEDO piece of crap auction. How difficult is it for the owners of these names to state that the name is or isn't a premium? __________________ blah blah blah

08-20-2011, 12:08 PM	THREAD STARTER #13 (permalink)
the dot stop Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: DomainSales.TV Posts: 3,585 Follow @thedotstop	In comes Bidder #5 to the P.TV auction P.tv is now at $14,999 __________________ DomainSales.tv ANALYZE.TV

08-21-2011, 12:54 AM	#15 (permalink)
lincolndsp NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 995	Public whois for Party.tv Updated Date: 28-oct-2010 Creation Date: 07-sep-2001 Expiration Date: 07-sep-2011 the domain is 99.99999999999999999999999% a premium legcy one because if it was not the owner would indicate that fact in the description to attract more attention to his listing! Last edited by lincolndsp; 08-21-2011 at 12:57 AM.

08-21-2011, 02:44 AM	#16 (permalink)
theo NamePros Supporter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 578	ferien.tv with 7000 EU bid

08-21-2011, 03:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
bulkdomainz NamePros Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 432	Let's see who bags Party.TV! Sure somebody somewhere can afford it! __________________ RESELLER PRICING at DOMAINSHOSTINGDESIGN.COM - PM your Account No before any purchaseClick here to see my domains for sale *****PM offers for: Facelift.tv NTA.tv MBI.tv GP.RS UnlockMobil.es CURRENCY.ws Projection.tv Funf.tv Camcorde.rs Jingle.tv CandidApps.com Sinfonietta.tv SUBSCRIBER.TV CH10.TV

08-25-2011, 01:34 PM	#25 (permalink)
hullswingerscom Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: yorkshire Posts: 2,409	i dont realy think .tv should be in any auction until the yearly renewal on premium names is ended ..tv holders are not playing on a level playing field.

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