Jotu

Hi,

For a domain created after the new price structure, is it possible to transfer a .tv premium from a .tv Premium registrar to a non-premium registrar like GoDaddy? And from a premium registrar to another premium registrar?

Thanks.

dr manos

nop, premium remains at the registrar where registered
only push allowed

Jotu

Oh seriously? I didn't know.. that sucks! Why this since renewal is not premium?

Premium.TV

Yes, you can transfer the name to any registrar that deals with .tv, but only if it has a standard annual renewal.

Jotu

Oh ok. But I have a .tv premium domain created with another registrar than enom and I can't transfer it to GoDaddy while status is ACTIVE (and nothing else) and epp code was provided. GoDaddy tell me that domain is not unlocked (while it is). I also had no trouble to transfer 10 non premium .tv from another registrar to GoDaddy so I don't understand..

Premium.TV

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Jotu

Nop but whois privacy has been removed.. Name and Firstname were already appearing in whois when privacy was enabled

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That's a bit crazy. It seems like you should be able to transfer as long as the annual renewal fee is standard.

the dot stop

I inquired about this myself to Enom.

I have a bunch of Premiums (off of the Premium list meaning these were more than reg fee) that I regged after Mar. 18th at Enom, and they said that all of mine were transferrable.

Now, I will be moving them very soon because the renewals are coming up and I will not pay their $50 renewal fee, while there are $24 and $23 renewal fees elsewhere.

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equity78

Default User is 100% right. I did a thread on this awhile back. I have spoken to Enom,Name and Dynadot.

While the renewal is non premium it cannot be transferred, they all said because the original registrar would not benefit from the renewal fees.

They were adamant they would not allow this so where you have the name is where its going to stay unless you drop the name.

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Exactly right DefaultUser.

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Jotu

I can't move the name to enom.tv because it was not registered with enom but with another .tv premium registrar.

Anyway "The central registry does not allow Premium .TV Domain Names to be transferred to another domain registrar at this time."
What ! :0 I've never ear anything like this before about .tv premium domains. I thought that since they get normal renewal fee, transfer would be possible..
Lucky me, my registrar is not charging too much for .tv domains but it's not the cheapest .tv registrar..
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=698834

This non-transfer rule sucks.

Premium.TV

This is true and apologize for any confusion. I registered only one .TV since March and was unfamiliar with the transfer policy until today, so thank you.

garptrader

I recall trying to transfer Weston.tv which had previously been a $500/year renewal to Godaddy. I picked it up during the March 18th/19th madness after it was discounted to ~$380. In either case, I wanted to move the domain to Godaddy before launching the site and was unable to do so.

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dnb8

I have question related to this topic,
Is there any "after registration" transfer lock for not premium .tv domains? And if it is, how many days I must wait?

jagusa

I recently tried to transfer a three-letter .tv domain away from Enom, was told it was "premium", and would been unable to be transferred out. The domain was registered on March 23, 2010 (after being removed from the recurring premium renewal list). No reference was made to special terms of service during the purchase process. After lack of resolution from Enom tech support, I have now filed Better Business Bureau and ICANN complaints.

jagusa

BBB Complaint is winding its way through. Enom's response blames Verisign for the issue.

ICANN sent me a note that let me know that they don't administer cctlds. They forwarded me to an IANA list, referring me to the Tuvalu Ministry of Finance and Tourism. Following that lead, I found their contact info:

Ministry of Trade, Tourism and Commerce
Vaiaku
Fanafuti
Telephone: (+688) 20182
Facsimile: (+688) 20829
Offices:
- Tuvalu Business Centre: Email: tbc@tuvalu.tv

I'll forward my complaint against Enom and Verisign to them. I like .tv domains, but the ambiguity that Verisign management has fostered is not good.

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jagusa

I rejected Enom's response that blamed the issue on Verisign and wrote additional details for the BBB. At least Enom is now communicating about the issue. Here are a few excerpts from my reply:

1) Domain registrar transfers are common and prevent any single registrar from holding a business's online identity hostage. At renewal, a registrar could exorbitantly increase the registration price and the business would have to pay it. The organization responsible for most generic domains, ICANN, has rules against transfer disallowance. The Respondent is not subject to those rules and unwilling to adopt them, even though such policies are widespread practice.

2) A reasonable person would believe any domain registered with the Respondent would be allowed to be transferred, unless such a prohibition was made explicit upon purchase.

3) The Respondent did not stipulate any special terms of service during the original registration or renewal of the domain. Their policy disallowing transfer were not offered or made available during the purchase process. Their third party partner, Verisign further was not directly referenced.

4) Their link offered in Enom's response states: "Certain .tv Domain Names that are generic or common words, and one- to three- character combinations have been designated as "Premium Names." Though this policy has only been provided to me with respect to the current dispute, the phrase "Certain .tv Domain Names", is ambiguous, and it unclear whether the domain falls under the definition of "Premium". Are all three character combinations premium or only certain combinations? The Respondent should consider that an impartial party usually will construe ambiguous terms against the drafter of the contract.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=698834

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I then go on to offer some potential remedies. Of course, my first choice would be to be able to transfer the domain. Other resolutions involve partial refunds, but those are specific to my case. Concerning the Better Business Bureay, I think a single answer from the Business is the minimum requirement. I don't know if the case will go further.

Anyway, I don't feel screwed by Enom and Verisign, just misled. If they would have been clear about the registration transfer rules from the start, the issue would have been avoided. I encourage others in similar circumstances to formally pursue the issue through Enom support and the Washington Better Business Bureau --mostly to get Enom and other premium .tv transactions to be as "above the board" as possible. I think less ambiguity surrounding .tv registrations will be better for the extension.

http://alaskaoregonwesternwashington.bbb.org/

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good point about full disclosure when purchasing

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