Blitz.tv at $5,000 on Sedo

Ammudamus · 03-07-2010, 09:40 PM

Looks like Blitz.tv is at Sedo auction with a $5,000 bid.

Auction Detail*-*Sedo.com

Best,
A

equity78 · 03-07-2010, 11:18 PM

Lance(TLD NETWORKS) has had many offers over the years. Name regged in 2004. I know there were higher offers like three years ago. Will be interesting to see if there are other offers.

Jeff · 03-14-2010, 03:54 PM

Seems like another one (1) bidder / "winning" .TV bid ... more importantly, WHO purchased this domain name and what are their specific plans for its development and promotion?

Looks like a (normal) Reg. fee - Reg. fee+/+ domain name, IMHO.
Just my two sense,
Jeff

equity78 · 03-14-2010, 07:20 PM

The only thing important to Lance is the $5000 in his pocket, as I have spoken to him about this recently,its a name that has had at least 4 offers of x,xxx since 2004. It is the only thing of importance to him.

And most names except domainer type names such as LLL or CVCV.com are one bid on Sedo auction. Especially now that the section is not really promoted prominently. For example Cheap-TV.com $1000 1 bid.

Jeff · 03-14-2010, 08:05 PM

Is it a "sale" to an Usual Suspect© via Sedo?

Otherwise, who would pay $5,000 ... for this .TV domain name, and why? IYHO's.

Thanks,
Jeff

equity78 · 03-14-2010, 08:14 PM

I am not sure what the usual suspect at Sedo means. If the sale does not go through then you could say the typical nonsense on SEDO. But I have spoken to Lance on every offer for Blitz.tv. $5000 is not the high offer he had higher in the past but countered and the seller cancelled the negotiations. I believe way back there was a company from the UK that used the name Blitz that made an offer via email.

Jeff · 03-14-2010, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by equity78

I am not sure what the usual suspect at Sedo means. If the sale does not go through then you could say the typical nonsense on SEDO.

Let's wait to see if it actually closes on Sedo, and as importantly ... to whom?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/643608-blitz-tv-at-5-000-sedo.html

See you soon,
Jeff

equity78 · 03-14-2010, 08:49 PM

To be honest I could care less who buys the name, all I care about is that Lance gets paid. Nothing more, nothing less.

Jeff · 03-14-2010, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by equity78

To be honest I could care less who buys the name, all I care about is that Lance gets paid. Nothing more, nothing less.

It means much more to me WHO purchases the domain name, and WHY?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=643608

All the best,
Jeff

equity78 · 03-14-2010, 09:14 PM

Pretty sure no one going to tell you why, and the bottom line is a sale is a sale.

Jeff · 03-14-2010, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by equity78

Pretty sure no one going to tell you why, and the bottom line is a sale is a sale.

Again, for me personally, it depends on whether a completed "sale" is to an End user with bonafide development & promotional plans ... or if it's just an exchange amongst the Usual Suspects© via the Sedo brokerage, IMHO.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=643608

Would the seller, in this case, not offer information regarding the buyer / transaction, if it completes? IYHO.
Thanks much, and feel free to PM me any additional info as well.
Jeff

equity78 · 03-14-2010, 10:59 PM

Jeff it seems to me you are believing there is a conspiracy theory, I take it just for .tv ? I just sold on SEDO and got the paypal last night on a .co.uk name that I regged on Feb 18 and got the offer and sold on Mar2, The name was a hand reg that most would probably say reg fee. Does that mean if you don't understand why they bought the name the sale was not legit ? I have not checked the whois to be honest, so I can only speak for my own sales and no that SEDO really sent the money to my paypal. If people believe that these are not real sales then that's their opinion that is just thrown out there. I don't understand a lot of sales in a lot of extensions, I am smart enough to know that I do not understand every market, every language, every culture. Domainers jump because they cannot rationalize something when they are just one of 6.8 billion. When CookingGames.com sold people could not understand why and for how much, DirectNavigation had the buyer on and he explained. I am not sure on every sale you will get the info.

Let me also add in the past I have sold .tv domains on SEDO to members here. I did not know it was the member and they did not approach me, I guess thinking they could get a better price or that I would raise the price if they emailed me since I knew who they were and believed in the extension. That still was a real sale imo. They were not an enduser.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=643608

As far as Blitz.tv goes, Lance never had any development plans for the name, got offers when .tv had a better aftermarket, countered and nothing else happened. I guess since .tv is not a priority of his he took the latest offer and pushed the name to auction to see if there was anyone else interested. Personally I would have sold, I think SEDO auctions are a waste of time 90% of the time. Most names get offer, push, no more bids. Now did you piss someone off that they got to wait to get the name ? Maybe, sometimes they don't pay. I have had friends put in the notes in the offer, "Do not push to auction, I will not pay for the name if you do and I win the name." I think you have the price you want and sell unless it is a domainer type name like LLL or CVCV. Again IMO

Jeff · 03-15-2010, 10:39 AM

I'm also keeping an eye as to whether - see other active thread in this section - WATCHING.TV ultimately closes (and to WHOM) on Sedo, as well ... both domain names seem to have one (1) way overpriced bid, and the history at Sedo - as you mention - is pretty awful; and I believe the Sedo platform can also be used to promote / have reported the "sales" of .TV's (and other new and newer TLD's) - giving the appearance that an actual bid/sale is occurring or has occurred with links then being posted in the forums, IMHO.

I found this to be true throughout my years in .TV domain names / discussions!

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=643608

Just my two sense,
Jeff

freedom30 · 03-15-2010, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=643608
I'm also keeping an eye as to whether - see other active thread in this section - WATCHING.TV ultimately closes (and to WHOM) on Sedo, as well ... both domain names seem to have one (1) way overpriced bid...
...I found this to be true throughout my years in .TV domain names / discussions!

Just my two sense,
Jeff

...for you, more likely than not, not the enduser(s). Depending who the enduser(s) may be, it may even be well within their range, if not yours, for what they want these names for. Just my take on it as well.

Jeff · 03-15-2010, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by freedom30

...for you, more likely than not, not the enduser(s). Depending who the enduser(s) may be, it may even be well within their range, if not yours, for what they want these names for. Just my take on it as well.

^ Understood ... I WANT to see that they have been sold to true End users for their specific development and promotional purposes; but that is very rarely ever the case here in the ".TV", in my observation!

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=643608

Thanks,
Jeff

MillersCrossing · 03-15-2010, 11:20 AM

Here is my problem with Blitz.TV and Watching.TV.....

First of all - TLDNETWORKS has always been a straight shooter - so lets get that straight right away. I also like the branding power of Blitz.Tv a million times over Watching.Tv - which as I have mentioned on a different thread I would not reg if it was available as a hand reg.

But maybe someone could share the strategy so I can better understand.

These names received rather fantastic offers. This indicates one thing only - these have to be END USER OFFERS.

As we all know the aftermarket is dead, so no domainer is buying these names to flip or to hold & flip. In which case why put it on Sedo and pay them commission as well as give the end user time to brood and get buyers remorse and pull out of their offer even though its against SEDO rules.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=643608

Do the sellers think another end user will appear out of no-where and start a bidding war when they have never ever shown an interest.

Now in Lance's situation it may make sense since, according to Equity he has received higher offers in the past and may hope to take another shot at getting the previous high offer, but Watching.TV....why put it on Sedo at all. It has already achieved end user offer without Sedo, so what does taking the name to Sedo do - where is the incentive?? especially with the recent bad press Sedo has been receiving .....

TLDnetworks · 03-17-2010, 10:16 PM

Pretty funny Jeff.... Yes, it was a hand reg I purchased in the aftermarket for not a lot, and just because it has good brand-ability. I was collecting a few sports related names at the time and was thinking of doing a football related site.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=643608

The name has had 5 bids in the $x,xxx range @ sedo since I've had it listed. The highest offer via negotiation was 8,000EUR approximately equals $11,005USD which after a rapid back and forth negotiation, the buyer did not respond to my last offer - after several days of nothing I decided to accept, but just prior to accepting they unexpectedly canceled the negotiation. Sedo would not go back to them and reopen for what ever reason.

One offer included a threat of legal action in Europe to get the name if I did not accept - I didn't. It centered around some sort of business or something in Europe, however I was using it targeted at American Football and have no business operation over seas.

This offer started at $5k, they rejected my counter with $5k, and they rejected my next counter with $5k and "final offer". I decided to accept solely because I could use the funds in other development projects. However I was upset they did not negotiate or budge, so I sent it to auction to see if anyone of the others that had bid in the past might still be watching.

So, Jeff, Yes, I believe it is an end user - I believe all serious offers have been from end users (what ever that means). Now, all I know is that the buyer profile states they are from Italy. The auction closed last Saturday and no, they have not paid yet. Are they pissed I sent it to auction? possibly. Will they back out because of that? possibly. Do I care? Not really. I'd like the funds, but there has been enough interest at a fairly high level that I don't mind waiting till the next time. If there isn't a next time, maybe I'll get around to my football site after all.

So, with a little history (whether you believe it or not), I still don't understand what the hell you are confused/upset/antagonistic/bitter about...

Jeff · 03-18-2010, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by TLDnetworks

So, Jeff, Yes, I believe it is an end user - I believe all serious offers have been from end users (what ever that means). Now, all I know is that the buyer profile states they are from Italy. The auction closed last Saturday and no, they have not paid yet. Are they pissed I sent it to auction? possibly. Will they back out because of that? possibly. Do I care? Not really. I'd like the funds, but there has been enough interest at a fairly high level that I don't mind waiting till the next time. If there isn't a next time, maybe I'll get around to my football site after all.

You believe it was an End user, thanks ... and it may still again not complete (again via Sedo); please keep us posted on its status as the ONLY thing of potential substance, to me, here is a closed, confirmed sale and then to whom it was sold, why, and their development & promotional plans, IMHO.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=643608
Single bids and forum posts on interest / offers in the past that didn't work out for one reason or another don't mean much in this context, in my judgement.

Quote:

So, with a little history (whether you believe it or not), I still don't understand what the hell you are confused/upset/antagonistic/bitter about...

I'm not upset at all, again thanks for keeping us posted on its status!

Best,
Jeff

03-07-2010, 09:40 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
Ammudamus NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 962	Blitz.tv at $5,000 on Sedo Looks like Blitz.tv is at Sedo auction with a $5,000 bid. Auction Detail-Sedo.com Best, A

03-07-2010, 11:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	Lance(TLD NETWORKS) has had many offers over the years. Name regged in 2004. I know there were higher offers like three years ago. Will be interesting to see if there are other offers. __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

03-14-2010, 03:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jeff Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Winter Break© Posts: 29,508	Seems like another one (1) bidder / "winning" .TV bid ... more importantly, WHO purchased this domain name and what are their specific plans for its development and promotion? Looks like a (normal) Reg. fee - Reg. fee+/+ domain name, IMHO. Just my two sense, Jeff __________________ Be cool. Be polite. Be professional.™

03-14-2010, 07:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	The only thing important to Lance is the $5000 in his pocket, as I have spoken to him about this recently,its a name that has had at least 4 offers of x,xxx since 2004. It is the only thing of importance to him. And most names except domainer type names such as LLL or CVCV.com are one bid on Sedo auction. Especially now that the section is not really promoted prominently. For example Cheap-TV.com $1000 1 bid. __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

03-14-2010, 08:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jeff Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Winter Break© Posts: 29,508	Is it a "sale" to an Usual Suspect© via Sedo? Otherwise, who would pay $5,000 ... for this .TV domain name, and why? IYHO's. Thanks, Jeff __________________ Be cool. Be polite. Be professional.™

03-14-2010, 08:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	I am not sure what the usual suspect at Sedo means. If the sale does not go through then you could say the typical nonsense on SEDO. But I have spoken to Lance on every offer for Blitz.tv. $5000 is not the high offer he had higher in the past but countered and the seller cancelled the negotiations. I believe way back there was a company from the UK that used the name Blitz that made an offer via email. __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

03-14-2010, 08:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	To be honest I could care less who buys the name, all I care about is that Lance gets paid. Nothing more, nothing less. __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

03-14-2010, 09:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	Pretty sure no one going to tell you why, and the bottom line is a sale is a sale. __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

03-14-2010, 10:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	Jeff it seems to me you are believing there is a conspiracy theory, I take it just for .tv ? I just sold on SEDO and got the paypal last night on a .co.uk name that I regged on Feb 18 and got the offer and sold on Mar2, The name was a hand reg that most would probably say reg fee. Does that mean if you don't understand why they bought the name the sale was not legit ? I have not checked the whois to be honest, so I can only speak for my own sales and no that SEDO really sent the money to my paypal. If people believe that these are not real sales then that's their opinion that is just thrown out there. I don't understand a lot of sales in a lot of extensions, I am smart enough to know that I do not understand every market, every language, every culture. Domainers jump because they cannot rationalize something when they are just one of 6.8 billion. When CookingGames.com sold people could not understand why and for how much, DirectNavigation had the buyer on and he explained. I am not sure on every sale you will get the info. Let me also add in the past I have sold .tv domains on SEDO to members here. I did not know it was the member and they did not approach me, I guess thinking they could get a better price or that I would raise the price if they emailed me since I knew who they were and believed in the extension. That still was a real sale imo. They were not an enduser. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=643608 As far as Blitz.tv goes, Lance never had any development plans for the name, got offers when .tv had a better aftermarket, countered and nothing else happened. I guess since .tv is not a priority of his he took the latest offer and pushed the name to auction to see if there was anyone else interested. Personally I would have sold, I think SEDO auctions are a waste of time 90% of the time. Most names get offer, push, no more bids. Now did you piss someone off that they got to wait to get the name ? Maybe, sometimes they don't pay. I have had friends put in the notes in the offer, "Do not push to auction, I will not pay for the name if you do and I win the name." I think you have the price you want and sell unless it is a domainer type name like LLL or CVCV. Again IMO __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

03-15-2010, 10:39 AM	#13 (permalink)
Jeff Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Winter Break© Posts: 29,508	I'm also keeping an eye as to whether - see other active thread in this section - WATCHING.TV ultimately closes (and to WHOM) on Sedo, as well ... both domain names seem to have one (1) way overpriced bid, and the history at Sedo - as you mention - is pretty awful; and I believe the Sedo platform can also be used to promote / have reported the "sales" of .TV's (and other new and newer TLD's) - giving the appearance that an actual bid/sale is occurring or has occurred with links then being posted in the forums, IMHO. I found this to be true throughout my years in .TV domain names / discussions! ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=643608 Just my two sense, Jeff __________________ Be cool. Be polite. Be professional.™

03-15-2010, 11:20 AM	#16 (permalink)
MillersCrossing Account Closed Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,742	Here is my problem with Blitz.TV and Watching.TV..... First of all - TLDNETWORKS has always been a straight shooter - so lets get that straight right away. I also like the branding power of Blitz.Tv a million times over Watching.Tv - which as I have mentioned on a different thread I would not reg if it was available as a hand reg. But maybe someone could share the strategy so I can better understand. These names received rather fantastic offers. This indicates one thing only - these have to be END USER OFFERS. As we all know the aftermarket is dead, so no domainer is buying these names to flip or to hold & flip. In which case why put it on Sedo and pay them commission as well as give the end user time to brood and get buyers remorse and pull out of their offer even though its against SEDO rules. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=643608 Do the sellers think another end user will appear out of no-where and start a bidding war when they have never ever shown an interest. Now in Lance's situation it may make sense since, according to Equity he has received higher offers in the past and may hope to take another shot at getting the previous high offer, but Watching.TV....why put it on Sedo at all. It has already achieved end user offer without Sedo, so what does taking the name to Sedo do - where is the incentive?? especially with the recent bad press Sedo has been receiving .....

03-17-2010, 10:16 PM	#17 (permalink)
TLDnetworks Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 2,346	Pretty funny Jeff.... Yes, it was a hand reg I purchased in the aftermarket for not a lot, and just because it has good brand-ability. I was collecting a few sports related names at the time and was thinking of doing a football related site. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=643608 The name has had 5 bids in the $x,xxx range @ sedo since I've had it listed. The highest offer via negotiation was 8,000EUR approximately equals $11,005USD which after a rapid back and forth negotiation, the buyer did not respond to my last offer - after several days of nothing I decided to accept, but just prior to accepting they unexpectedly canceled the negotiation. Sedo would not go back to them and reopen for what ever reason. One offer included a threat of legal action in Europe to get the name if I did not accept - I didn't. It centered around some sort of business or something in Europe, however I was using it targeted at American Football and have no business operation over seas. This offer started at $5k, they rejected my counter with $5k, and they rejected my next counter with $5k and "final offer". I decided to accept solely because I could use the funds in other development projects. However I was upset they did not negotiate or budge, so I sent it to auction to see if anyone of the others that had bid in the past might still be watching. So, Jeff, Yes, I believe it is an end user - I believe all serious offers have been from end users (what ever that means). Now, all I know is that the buyer profile states they are from Italy. The auction closed last Saturday and no, they have not paid yet. Are they pissed I sent it to auction? possibly. Will they back out because of that? possibly. Do I care? Not really. I'd like the funds, but there has been enough interest at a fairly high level that I don't mind waiting till the next time. If there isn't a next time, maybe I'll get around to my football site after all. So, with a little history (whether you believe it or not), I still don't understand what the hell you are confused/upset/antagonistic/bitter about...

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