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![]() | Ive been preachen that theroy for a whilenow, check out ollo.tv and its a search engine using the googlemeister that seeks out the worlds most compelling and media rich content also check out Untitled Document a online remote im devloping for couch potatoeZ.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | In a very small way I was one of the beneficiaries of that ".com" explosion and like the original poster completely saw the parallels between the .com events of the Nineties and the .tv events of now. Hence my steady acquisition of names that can genuinely be developed. (and have genuinely been developed) Running with .TV and feeling that sense of deja vu is ok, but I want everything to happen TODAY and it all seems such a slow boil. But the story is only going in one direction, and the facts are laying themselves out day after day. The hope, of course, is that we arrive at that bizarre point when all of a sudden everyone fully understands .TV and we were 'right'. Of course, this is a very big gamble and many things may be VERY VERY different. We might have more and more 'gated' sites - places like a future YouTube, that invite you in and intend to keep you there, as they are everything you could ever want from internet television - and they have completely sewn the market up. We see these sites developing today, the likes of Twitter,Facebook, SeeSaw, and certainly everything Google, that want to represent everything in a particular niche. We may, in a different route, also be faced with thousands and thousands of extensions to the point we no longer care if it is a .com or a .net - but we see the whole name as the domain. Much like we are introduced to some one called Peter McGregor in the real world and accept his whole name, rather than just being interested in the McGregor part of his name, because the clan was more important than the individual (as it once was). ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641157 The future is certainly not ours to see, but I also get that same feeling of 'I've seen this before' ...and last time it was good for those involved. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | The exact same arguments have been made for years by those investing in .tv domains. Online video doesn't equal .tv, it is an alt extension for video. |
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Is that the antifan in you, or are you just happy to meet your 'Rant against dot tv' quota? ![]() Is there an extension that you root for as much as you you root against dot tv? If so, please share. | ||||
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Seems you are posting the same off topic stuff in multiple threads today, with as many links as you can to your fabulous antifan thread. I think it is perhaps a new low point following on from the time you claimed I was actually a big .tv investor and went on a rant about how I had lost a whole lot of money in .tv. | ||||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Then how can someone as reasonable as you be on such a crusade? I mean, I am certainly not in the minority of members on this forum who think you are on a crusade. In fact, I can't even claim to be so witty to think of your activities on this forum as such but when a reasonable person stands back and looks at some of your posts, it becomes quite evident that it is exactly that...a crusade against the extension. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641157 With all this and your antifan stuff it seems you are now becoming the next freedom30 of this forum. Good luck with all that but don't expect me to reply to a whole lot of off track posts. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Way to deflect and not directly answer the question which was serious and legitimate. By now, you know and understand that I am not the only one on this forum who questions your intentions when you consistently post negatively about the extension. |
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641157 Snoop, people understand you don't like .TV - but why keep coming here and pissing on everyone's chips? A man comes on Namepros, explains why he, as a person, likes .TV and has his ideas derided for no reason other than you feel the need to be contrary/superior. So yes, I agree, the level of conversation is getting lower. Please, would it hurt to show some level of common decency. | ||||
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![]() One holding point that speaks for the .tv extension is it's simpleness. No matter where you go (well, almost), everybody knows what a tv is and what it means. The reason .com took off in the early 90's was because there was no competition. Now .tv has to fight against the popularity of .com, which is a battle that's hard to fight, but for some reason I think it's far from impossible to win (in the long run). ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641157 ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641157 What about online tv? What if media stations choose to "stream" some of their shows on the internet? As more and more people get access to faster internet connections, I don't see why that can't be a legit option. That's what I'm thinking too We'll just have to wait and see..
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | "Nonsense! Balderdash, I tell you.", the crusader quipped. "You fail to see the 20th century is right there before your very own eyes, as it is before mine, yet you have the unmitigated gall to turn your back on it. " "I will verily have you sent to coventry should you persist in this treasonous action." roared the now invigorated man of La Mancha. "I stand before you undaunted in my quest to stomp out any signs that even broach the unmentionable subject of even the most meager alleged success of this extension, and with my last breath with refute anything that may in any way slow the progress of the return of the 20th century." The frail Quixote, exhausted from his day on the battlefield, once again set upon his ass and meandered to the next thread, preparing for the next ensuing confrontation. He was content with the havoc and intimidation he manifested to the denizens of this God-forsaken extension, knowing that he has once again made refugees of another thread, laying it barren with his "march to the sea" technique of destroying the threads. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641157 Job well done, my dear conquistador. the battle begins anew. Once gone, the villagers gathered around, picked up whatever pieces were left of their posts, and chuckled at the debile, feeble and abrasive statements of the undaunted crusader. Come again, Quixote, we are still here, as strong as, if not stronger than before. "With all this and your antifan stuff it seems you are now becoming the next freedom30 of this forum." In the land of this extension existed many interpreters and historians of the travels and travails of Don Quixote, as his adventures were legendary. "Good luck with all that but don't expect me to reply to a whole lot of off track posts. " ...t'was then apparent that dear Quixote was growing weary and needed his nap. Again, we say to you: Good night, good Knight! |
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![]() | Benzdorf the congenial stands up and applause, shouting above the crys of the horrid mass's '" Bravo Bravo "
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I think branding/promotion is the key to .tv's (or any extension's) success.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | only if and when we get some good tv sales reported on dnj..will this stop from guys like snoop.. will they be a new tv Convergence like they had last year ? shame seesaw.tv goes to the com! I think branding/promotion is the key to .tv's ..yes i go along with this,i did think it was geo but now not so sure! |
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I think there is a critical mass issue.
![]() No reason why .tv sales are reported less often that other extensions, IMO the end users are voting with their wallets. How exactly .tv intends to compete ? Even the standard reg fee is substantially higher than .com. If I were big fish like Sony etc I would have serious reservations about basing my business upon an extension that is unregulated, unlike gTLDs or mature ccTLDs. It's the end users that make the market, you can 'educate' some of them, but not all of them. Sure we can dream about a perfect world where everyone is .tv-aware, there is little you can do about it. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641157 ---------- Post added at 05:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:06 PM ---------- But they already have their dotcoms so the reality is that they have little incentive to promote, let alone 'switch' to another extension. It's a simple as that. Airbus or Boeing don't use their .aero either, why should they. Granted, .aero blows as a TLD (unlike .tv) but the issue is the same. They have the dotcom already. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641157 BTW www.sony.tv is dead and panasonic.tv is parked (squatted ?). If you want to educate end users, you know where to find them. You guys are going to hate me
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Panasonic.tv is, as you state, parked(squatted?), however Sony.tv is actually owned by Sony - and should they decide not to use the name today, that is their prerogative. Surely, everyone has at least one name that doesn't point anywhere (especially a name you have a plan for). Philips and Samsung are also own their own names in .TV, indeed quite a lot of film is available to see at Philips.tv. I think many endusers are doing just fine with their own education on .TV A quick look at BMW.tv or Mercedes-Benz.tv will confirm that. I don't think anyone is going to hate you, indeed you obviously have a lot more flair in finding real facts than the fantasy we normally hear from people who are anti-TV. However, what they might dislike is being given only part of the story because the writer has a one-sided view on what is going on. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641157 You see a corporation without a .TV channel and suggest TV is dead Most here see a corporation using a .Tv channel and think this is further evidence of where things are going. |
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SetAsia.tv MaxAsia.tv I see these names almost daily being promoted on "Sony TV" channel on Dish Network.
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The problem for most of us here is that even when they do it doesnt translate into profits for domainers. Theres not much money in online video ads right now. That may change someday but that day could be quite a ways off. Several years anyway. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641157 So right now even if you could get a lot of traffic to your site its more likely to be a liability than an asset. If every video watched costs you .2 cents in bandwidth/overhead and you earn only .1 cents from it it doesnt take a math whiz to know whats going to happen to your wallet before long.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | However, as competition matures, unfettered cruising of the internet will remain a point of competition amongst them, so we will continue to have access to traffic, imo, just that the major players will continue to scrape off a large chunk of customers - as usual. Other technologies, such as the Iphone, will offer interesting challenges for us, some of which may also apply to the home television/internet setup, such as the development of Apps. Maybe your home television will filter some traffic out with Apps, that are strictly pay to play from the developer's side - you don't pay, you don't appear in the Apps module. I do not see .tv as the be all end all of online entertainment, but the growth of streaming video, the dearth of companies looking to enter the market and the prime keywords that I have picked up in this extension appears to represent an aligning of the stars, as it were. Good things are coming. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641157 In the meantime, I develop the keywords as affiliate sites, so that they pay for themselves.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Why do we need a dedicated extension for video in the first place ? ![]() You mean let's give it another 10 years ?
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