the dot stop

As I look on enoms Premium pricing list, I see tons of complete garbage with some insane premiums.
I mean domains that wouldn't even sell for the normal reg fee much less another additional fee.

But as I see multiple threads in here on the Premium re-pricing of some great .tv's they always go up in price.
Sometimes they go up by 10x the price!

In this current Economy, It seems everyone does some creative things to make $.
I was just curious if anyone ever knew of a Premium .tv ever going down in price???

Thanks.

MicroGuy

I don't think Enom's been accused of being overly creative lately. And nope, I've never seen a premium renew drop in price. But it does seems like an option worth exploring if you're Enom. One thing is for sure, they are going to do what they are going do . IMO.

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the dot stop

Thanks for your response MicroGuy.
I know you have followed the stats on a lot of .tv Premium re-pricing.

Ya know, They really are shooting themselves in the foot over there.
I wish I managed their Marketing Dept.
I would set a date for some sort of Premium .tv slashed down fire-sale,
maybe 1/2 price or something...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/638014-has-premium-tv-domain-ever-went.html
Let it run for a week or longer.
Just imagine how many sales they would have!
I am willing to bet they would make more $ in that one week then they would make in an entire month on .tv Premium Reg's.

Jimbojimbo

A more grown up policy would be to sell all premium names in a one-off auction. There are so many wonderful names available that with a good piece of PR (like that for the recent .de names) they would be able to reach out to enduser buyers and collect some serious income.

They could then embark on lower prices for all remaining .TV names to a level similar to to .com (say $10 a pop).

I think the massive profile of the premiums and more acceptable pricing to the average joe would see .TV go seriously mainstream.

Buy hey, why would Verisign/enom want success a big on their plate - don't they already have enough as it is?

the dot stop

Hey there Jimbo,

$10.00 a pop...Now there's a novel concept.
Unfortunately, It makes too much sense!

I am a huge fan of .tv, I think everyone here knows that.
What they are doing right now just isn't working in my book.

I have spent a ton of $ on this extension, and I have no plans of quitting anytime soon.
I am definitely in this extension for the long haul.
I just was hoping someone somewhere has heard of any .tv Premiums that have actually been lowered at one time or another.

Whatever happens,
Whether they use something similar to my idea, or yours, or any type of sale at all,
It could only benefit everyone that would like to use this .tv extension.

anon22339

Where on enom is a list of all the premium names?

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MicroGuy

Wow! Looks like they took the complete list down. Hmmm?

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the dot stop

eNom - domain name, web site hosting, email, registration

MicroGuy

That's not the list.

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the dot stop

You're right.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=638014
I can't find it now.
They must have just changed their layout.
Can anyone else find it now?

MicroGuy

http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv-appra...available.html

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Ahhh, Thanks MicroGuy.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=638014
Very weird...I'll tune in at 11, lol.

MrRhee

We monitor the premium list and have NEVER seen a (planned) price drop. there has been some "mistakes" that have been ironed out quickly. One thing we noticed recently is that the price hikes have not been as large as before (% wise), but they still do their best to reprice all 3-char drops at $4500. I miss the days of the $500 3-ltr domains.

the dot stop

Thanks Mr Rhee.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=638014

I spoke with a rep over there today, and he said that .tv Premiums fluctuate with the current Market Pricing. So, I guess that means that all of the Premium .tv renewal rates should be going down now

snoop

I think the above would be good for domainers, but not Verisign.

There current policy is pretty successful in my view. Would much rather have the residual revenue from premium names than sell them off in a one time auction. The auctioned names are all going to be largely bought by domainers and with the amount of money in the domainer .tv area right now the auction isn't likely to yield particularly high prices, they won't get the "enduser" pricing that they enjoy now with their renewal structure. The above idea is basically "selling the farm", at the moment they are "selling the milk".

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Have a bit of think about it.

-You've spent a ton of money
-You won't be quitting anytime soon
-What they are doing now isn't good
-If they reduced prices it would benefit registrants.

If alot of Verisign customers were like that their is no way they are going to reduce prices.

If Verisign were going to say halve the renewal fee then they'd need to see registration numbers at least double and then grow at double the current rate for it to make sense. Personally I think that is unlikely.

People are wishing for something that will never come in my view.

the dot stop

Nice farm/milk analogy. lol
I disagree...partly...
Sure they dont have to sell the whole farm, but they need to sell alot more milk.
They cant do it the way they are operating now.

I think If .tv went more mainstream then you would see the Reg's multiply overnight which would in turn make them more $ then the way they are holding thousands of .tv domains hostage right now.

snoop

Little doubt their premium renewal fees would have gone down considerably, but I would guess that revenue is still substantial. There is still some people here renewing names $500 and $1000 names.

As far as putting up prices go they would be collecting data on of the effect, this one of the savviest companies in the business in my view, the people who brought us the .com price increases and sitefinder. If putting up prices didn't increase revenue they wouldn't do it.

The extension is clearly a nich in my view, and lowering prices isn't going to multiply registration fee overnight. Lastly they aren't holding anything hostage, what they are doing is little different to what domainers do.

the dot stop

More Power to those people.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=638014
I wish them all the best.
It is similar to those who put tons of $ into LLLL.com's.
Some managed to do pretty well for themselves, others - not so much.


.tv being a niche as your view, thats fine but as you know there is $ to be made in every extension.
My view in .tv is, It will rival .net one day. Just my view.
Let's not argue on speculation though.
Seems like that's been done way too much already.

Holding domains hostage - Yes they are.
You are right about..."what they are doing is little different to what domainers do."
But at some point you have to be smart enough to price your product according to the Market or you will just hold onto it forever, making no money at all.

I only started this thread because I had a list of a few Premiums I wanted to pick up recently but haven't been able to bring myself to that shopping cart because of that "extra" yearly pricing. I WOULD buy them for a one time fee/sale, etc. But I was just real curious if anyone has ever seen one go down in renewal pricing. If so, I wanted to find out how and when I could cash in on that if it was ever an option.

Hopefully with Enom pulling down that list of Premiums, they have a HUGE markdown sale getting ready to kick off!

MrRhee

Here's what I posted in another thread regarding this:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=638014



The more time I have to think about the list and monitoring the premium-activity the more I hope they are planning a promo, perhaps pre-May 2010. I'll try to learn when the ENOM contract is up with Verisign because that may play a major role...

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the dot stop

MrRhee,

Thanks for your Posts,
and I can't wait to read whatever you find out about what they are up to over there.

MicroGuy

^^^ yeah, what he said. I can't wait to see what you read whatever it might be regardless of what it is that you find over there.

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.tv prices going down ..........it's not the 1st of april already is it ?

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snoop

The word "hostage" means someone is being held unlawfully, Verisign has the right to hold those names, what you don't like is the pricing.

I think you need to realize that Verisign know alot more about their own business than you or I know about it. If they have changed pricing and that pricing has gone up and stayed up the most likely explanation is that they are making more money that way.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=638014

I'm not surprised, the "hostage" claims and comments that Verisign are making a mistake comes from you personally being not be willing to pay the price they are asking. Personally I can't buy alot of things in life because I can't pay the asking price. That does not mean the seller is making a mistake not pricing to what you or I would pay.

Basically Verisign has gone to great lengths to make sure this extension makes no sense for domainers. They want those speculative profits that domainers would normally make and they signed a $50million contract with the Tuvalu government to get it. They aren't going to give that away by having a huge firesale of premiums and changing renewals fees to $10.

At some point I think people need to realize not much is going to change with this extension.

the dot stop

It takes too much time to pull each sentence out of these damn quote bubbles, then respond to it and do it all over again. I'll try to make this response quick as it is late, and I'm tired.

I used the word hostage meaning...Holding onto something and demanding "extra", hence - "Premium". I dont have a problem with higher prices for better domains at all. I understand that...supply and demand.

You or I will never know what they have up their sleeves, but because of the crazy world economy right now, Companies are getting prertty creative today. You cant really say, "not much is going to change with this extension". Think of it this way, they already have thousands of domains doing nothing, just sitting there...Well not even sitting there. They are invisible, not material at all. So they have thousands and thousands of these little invisible treasures that they CAN make money on, but have done nothing with. The only thing they have done is, once in a while throw a higher price on them by entering a larger # next to each domain on a computer. If these little invisible treasures aren't moving, then what do you think is going to happen one day? Who knows?

Call me goofy, but I am hopeful that one day I will pull out my list of Premiums, and possibly get them for a little cheaper then I could have gotten them for last week.

snoop

Some names are selling though, it is bit like saying "buydomains has a million names and 98% don't sell each year therefore the model makes no sense". They are selling 2% at very inflated prices, that makes up for the rest.

Verisign has much the same model, they are the domainer.