Jimbojimbo

Since the bulk of the regular .TV members left this area to carry on, mostly, with real businesses created through their links with .TV we have been left with a small group of people who are somewhat, unhappy, that .TV even has a place at the table, never mind a space on Namepros.

The dementors, those creatures that suck the life out of everything they meet, don't just exist in Harry Potter books - we have them here too!

So I decided to do some RESEARCH and see if they were correct.

For those unfamiliar with this concept, it is where a person gets accepted facts from public sources and then puts them together to work out certain ideas, plans, possibilities, etc.

I took a look at all the accepted .TV sales I could find on DNJournal for all the years back before December 2008.

I then took a look at what percentage had actually been dropped and were available right now. I chose pre December 2008 names as this would give the names that were sold (mostly on SEDO) time to be held by their new owners and statistically back for at least one renewal period.

According to the doom and gloom merchants (dementors) you would think that EVERYONE was dropping names left right and centre. So I imagined that at least 50% of names would be dropped and available.

Here are the actual figures...

Normal 'regular fee' .TV Names I could find that had been sold and reported on DNJOURNAL

969

Premium .TV Names I could find that had been sold and reported on DNJOURNAL

193

So, roughly 1 in every 6 names sold on SEDO is a PREMIUM (now that's something I didn't know)


I then took the 969 'normal' regular fee names (i left the premiums out as they are technically still owned and only leased out) and checked if they were available.

Guess how many of these horrible 'get rid of them' as quick as you can .TV names were available?

83 - or to put it another way just 8.7%

Oh, and here are those beauties so you can possibly examine why they are still available (with prices they were sold at)...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/637664-this-information-is-important.html



accused.tv $75.00
alist.tv $425.00
antacid.tv $741.00
antiguaandbarbuda.tv $100.00
anybody.tv $5,500.00
ardor.tv $500.00
babyshowers.tv $60.00
bestadvert.tv $200.00
besthdtv.tv $15.00
bosniaandherzegovina.tv $100.00
businessinfo.tv $947.00
buyoled.tv $135.00
cancunmexico.tv $200.00
casinovideos.tv $60.00
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=637664
castries.tv $498.00
caucus.tv $300.00
cents.tv $60.00
cents.tv $100.00
chanels.tv $80.00
chapels.tv $60.00
computerexpert.tv $38.00
conejo.tv $60.00
correr.tv $200.00
dreamworlds.tv $150.00
erock.tv $60.00
eyev.tv $201.00
fallout.tv $60.00
forexexchange.tv $60.00
freemusicvideo.tv $360.00
frontal.tv $60.00
fussballem.tv $94.00
genus.tv $60.00
girlchannel.tv $150.00
gtaiv.tv $773.00
gymnastic.tv $95.00
hilt.tv $250.00
homepoker.tv $250.00
hometutor.tv $100.00
hydroplane.tv $100.00
ibar.tv $3,572.00
immobilien-markt.tv $93.00
jest.tv $60.00
jeugos.tv $882.00
kidnews.tv $70.00
kidshopping.tv $60.00
knots.tv $60.00
loanapplications.tv $75.00
lots.tv $70
matilda.tv $60.00
maturechannel.tv $100.00
medicalsystems.tv $7.00
megabuck.tv $680.00
militaryschool.tv $70.00
moscowtv.tv $75.00
musicsongs.tv $65.00
myscene.tv $200.00
newsreel.tv $655.00
occasioni.tv $85.00
offshoreracing.tv $250.00
operating.tv $60.00
oswego.tv $415.00
petrobras.tv $130.00
plasmahd.tv $93.00
plenty.tv $70.00
portonovo.tv $544.00
procedural.tv $250.00
realbirth.tv $180.00
redwines.tv $200.00
reselling.tv $6.00
rockingham.tv $70.00
scottsdalearizona.tv $70.00
sexdorm.tv $1,000.00
snag.tv $60.00
starringme.tv $80.00
summersports.tv $150.00
technochannel.tv $60.00
tiempos.tv $60.00
tobaccos.tv $75.00
tvguides.tv $70.00
voyeur24.tv $80.00
willows.tv $612.00
worldfocus.tv $3,500.00
zips.tv $60.00

The four names in bold and red should also now be taken out of the list as I have bought them.

I believe that people should be rewarded for research and will soon put them for sale here at Namepros for just $100 each. Unless I am PM'd first.

snoop

Why would you think that that 50% of all regular reg fee names people have bought for 2/3/4 figures would now have been dropped and not reregistered?

8.7% sounds like a stunning figure to me. How many investments can you think of where 8.7% of what got bought was just dumped and with nobody even bothering to pick it up?

At first I thought you were talking about regististrations, not names resold in the aftermarket. Even a 8.7% decline in registrations would be massive.

How many were available?

the dot stop

Jimbo,

You da man!
Thank You for all of your research!

Great List...
Oh, and you may want to make Operating - Bold and Red too,
cuz I just grabbed it

I just sent you 50$ NP for your hard work, and Killer List!

Thanks again!

Jimbojimbo

So, not only do we ignore facts - we also missed out on reading class did we?

I've put the 'exact quote' below and highlighted in bold and red the reason...

This section is full of doom and gloom merchants saying its 'all dead'
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=637664

Yet, I still end up talking to representatives from the 'real' world who are building, or have built great new .TV names websites / internet Tv channels.

Real World - still ploughing on and making things happen
Domainer to Domainer Market - led by miseryguts whingers


AND YET

Not five seconds had passed from when this thread was begun and names started to be purchased.

Who's buying them?

People who think like you - or people who know what's really happening outside of forumland?

snoop

Jimbo, why would anyone expect 50% of names sold in the aftermarket to be available? I'm shocked about 8.7%.

Any figures on the premium names?

twomoon

Uau!! great list! Thank you. 50$ NP from me also

immobilien-markt is not available now

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Jimbojimbo

Classic troll question. Beautiful.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=637664

Why don't you do some research yourself? Or is it not within your remit?

snoop

How is it a troll question, you say you have left these names out of your analysis, I don't follow that. The bit about it "i left the premiums out as they are technically still owned and only leased out" sounds pretty strange to me.

How hard is it to post the data for the premiums since you've already collected it?

Jimbojimbo

youtube.com/watch?v=6_PI02n9SXM

equity78

Jimbo DN Journal does not report sales under $1000 so you got that info from where NameBio ?

Snoop a lot of these are $100 and under names its not a big deal if dropped 8.7% is no big deal.

Now the buyer who paid Dottie $5500 for anybody.tv that's strange.

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snoop

I don't see how there is a big difference here whether the price was $50 or $5000. It is a very big step for someone to buy a name at a premium in the aftermarket then just let it drop. It is alot different to registering a name then letting it expire for example.

Personally I thought this was mainly happening with premium names, (bird.tv etc) though clearly it is going a lot further.

Jimbojimbo

Totally agree..
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=637664

Here's the original thread..

http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/43586...mily-sold.html

Obviously a man with a plan - and that plan didn't pan out.



Who knows why things go bad?
...but I would never blame the extension.

equity78

Snoop,personally I don't care either way. But I understand buying for $60 and then losing interest in a project. What is $60 if that's a big deal to you then you are entitled to your opinion. Paying $500 or more then I agree that is a goof on the buyer.

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And snoop that number in .com I would venture is much larger % wise but things change sometime the plan changes or you lose interest in the idea.

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snoop

It is an intersting thread, it sounds to me like the buyer didn't really have much of a plan, to basically be "window shopping" rather than having particular domains in mind,
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=637664

"they initally asked about just efamily- then as we talked, they wanted a site to show anybody can be a tv star (via thier video) - i was like, um, how about anybody.tv- where anybody can be a star-
somehow they missed it on the list - they were like, wow, thats perfect! so we talked back and forth for about 2 weeks- it helps that they came in with strong offers-"

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I doubt that, I'll take a weeks data from dnjournal in 2008 and see how it compares. Should be several hundred sales.

snoop

I've now run data from namebio (since it includes sales at all prices rather than dnjournal which has a cutoff) for a week from 2 years ago, 1st Feb 2008 to 8th Feb 8th for .com domains sold,

Total sample size was 216 names.

Of that 216, the number of dropped and now available names was 5, which was 2.3% of the sample.

I've attached a list of the names,

The available names were,

discountcaravan.com - $119 - Sedo
dvdpicker.com - $199 - Sedo
forex-forextrading.com - $444 Sedo
judyz.com $300 - Afternic
mycash-boost.com - $1500 - TDNAM

As you can see from the list and what is now available their is little correlation between price paid and what was left to drop. Most of the names that dropped were more mid range prices and of the 32 sales under $100, none were available.

Attached Files

com-names-sold 1stfeb2008-8feb2008.txt (8.6 KB, 1 views)

anon22339

Jimbo - nice analysis.

I went through the entire list and, unfortunately, did not find a one that convinced me to pick it up at reg fee! Many have marketability issues that kept me at bay -- i.e., I couldn't see the .tv domain name "selling itself" to the end-user as an obvious must-buy when dangled in front of them for the first time.

Jimbojimbo

A few days have now passed by and it appears that 9 of the list of names printed have been taken by people who read this thread.

Interesting. I would have said the reason most if these had dropped was that they weren't the greatest of names to start off with and were mostly $60 SEDO purchases. Of course, there were some good buys.

My favourite was Newsreel