JustinTV.com = $500,000.00 - That's Pocket Change for Justin?

MicroGuy · 08-08-2009, 03:24 PM

This guy should write a new book "Cybersquatting for Dummys".

Pretty nice "For Sale" page: JustinTV.com

I think its amazing how much traffic this page is getting from Justin.TV typos, but $500K seems a little steep. Still, 95K monthly visitors is nothing to sneeze at....wow!

equity78 · 08-08-2009, 03:55 PM

Looks like the guy is trying the same strategy that flicker.com using trying to get flickr.com to buy.

http://www.thedomains.com/2009/06/26...uy-flickercom/

evirtual1 · 08-13-2009, 02:36 AM

i have never heard the word 'dickering'

o7media · 08-13-2009, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by evirtual1

i have never heard the word 'dickering'

HAHAHAH i love his splash page!!! $500,000 FIRM...no dickering!

LOL

evirtual1 · 08-16-2009, 06:35 PM

is dickering a common term in high money deals ?

(i just wanted to write dickering again)

cityforums.com · 08-16-2009, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by MicroGuy

This guy should write a new book "Cybersquatting for Dummys".
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/601922-justintv-com-500-000-00-thats.html

Pretty nice "For Sale" page: JustinTV.com

I think its amazing how much traffic this page is getting from Justin.TV typos, but $500K seems a little steep. Still, 95K monthly visitors is nothing to sneeze at....wow!

Site Profile for justintv.com (rank #67,917) | Compete

This is an interesting case for leakage from .tv to .com ...

so the more successful a .tv becomes, the happier the owner of the .com becomes

RTM · 08-28-2009, 06:16 PM

The FS page is funny, but I too question how many buyers (other than the obvious) would want to fork over $500K for this (less than generic) name which obviously targets one very specific site.

Unless it could somehow be molded into a TV news site, but even then, it wouldn't be worth $50K IMHO.

As for the current owner of JustinTV.com, well, he gets all that traffic, but other than the nice Quantcast numbers, how could it possibly be monetized except through low-end parking ads.

Rob

MicroGuy · 08-28-2009, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by RTM

The FS page is funny, but I too question how many buyers (other than the obvious) would want to fork over $500K for this (less than generic) name which obviously targets one very specific site.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=601922

Unless it could somehow be molded into a TV news site, but even then, it wouldn't be worth $50K IMHO.

As for the current owner of JustinTV.com, well, he gets all that traffic, but other than the nice Quantcast numbers, how could it possibly be monetized except through low-end parking ads.

Rob

At some point (if the current trends holds) Justin.TV will be looking for a .COM domain to host its website. This is the obvious candidate, therefore the $500K price tag by the cybersquatting prognosticator. They will make a deal probably for low $xxx,xxx. Justin can then use the .TV as long as needed with the security and peace of mind of the .COM backup. IMO.

Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that this is a FREE appraisal. This is a guess at quick flip resale value not an unrealistic end-user price. Often times my appraisals are rushed, too low, or too high. Sometimes my advice is totally wrong and occasionally downright dumb. If the post stamp is after 5:00pm EST, the chances are even greater that inaccuracies will occur due to blood alcohol levels.

tvdotcoms · 08-31-2009, 12:11 AM

just my 2 cents

Justin.tv (Justin is cousin of my classmate, she was wondering how does he make money, and I explained it to her, she was completely freaking out, thats co incidence, I happen to be her classmate for one class)

Anyhow, good luck to both parties, justin.tv and justintv.com

HBK216 · 08-31-2009, 05:51 AM

If they have not purchased it by now, I highly doubt they will. In a case like this, their marketing & traffic dictates the .tv is worth more. 95K in traffic is NOTHING compared to what they get.

I bet it would be easier for them to acquire the name by filing a complaint against this obvious cybersquatter. If the owner's name is Justin, I would feel different. Assuming it is not, it seems obvious why he registered this & domainers like this make me sick.

daj · 08-31-2009, 06:16 AM

The WhoIs says justintv.com was first created in 1999, who's to say he hasn't owned it long since Justin.TV came online?

freedom30 · 08-31-2009, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by daj

The WhoIs says justintv.com was first created in 1999, who's to say he hasn't owned it long since Justin.TV came online?

Doesn't matter, Justin.tv is gaining in name recognition and they will probably let justintv.com just hover in cyberspace as a typo as more and more people get adapted to Justin.tv.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=601922

The site really doesn't need the .com as you can plainly see, and that will be more evident as time passes.

HBK216 · 08-31-2009, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by daj

The WhoIs says justintv.com was first created in 1999, who's to say he hasn't owned it long since Justin.TV came online?

Oh ok, that is a different story as it was around way before JTV. Is the owner named Justin? I wonder how it would be looked at if it was not. While it would not be fair in some ways, I bet they would lose the name because Justin.tv is so popular. One could make a case for both sides.

MicroGuy · 08-31-2009, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by HBK216

While it would not be fair in some ways, I bet they would lose the name

Yeah, the way the .COM is being used would only strengthen Justin's legal argument and help his case. IMO.

antonis12 · 09-26-2009, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by MicroGuy

At some point (if the current trends holds) Justin.TV will be looking for a .COM domain to host its website. This is the obvious candidate, therefore the $500K price tag by the cybersquatting prognosticator. They will make a deal probably for low $xxx,xxx. Justin can then use the .TV as long as needed with the security and peace of mind of the .COM backup. IMO.

Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that this is a FREE appraisal. This is a guess at quick flip resale value not an unrealistic end-user price. Often times my appraisals are rushed, too low, or too high. Sometimes my advice is totally wrong and occasionally downright dumb. If the post stamp is after 5:00pm EST, the chances are even greater that inaccuracies will occur due to blood alcohol levels.

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i always wonder about this because the case seems pretty weak to me.

typo or leakage parked domains always make the case of 'look how much of your traffic comes here' which is fine as the first question.

i guess my immediate second question if i were the actual site owner would be 'how much of that traffic actually fails to subsequently find flickr or justin.tv'? my guess is that the second number is close to zero.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=601922

look at an example that has existed forever (nytiems dot com): Mega site of Bible studies and information

i typo to that domain probably once every week or two. but not once, in the history of my life, have I:

a) gotten confused about whether or not this was in fact the NY Times

and

b) Sat there utterly lost and not knowing what to do next to get to the NY Times

So you are really talking about a minor convenience to your customers by holding the typo/leaked domain which is worth something, but not huge amounts.

this *is* different when you have two sites of about the same size competing on the .tv and tv.com because they you have the risk of confusion.

But if one site has already taken off like justin.tv or flickr, I am not sure that in practice the other one is going to have that much impact.

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RTM Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www.adsenseworld.com Posts: 1,568 Follow @adsense_world	The FS page is funny, but I too question how many buyers (other than the obvious) would want to fork over $500K for this (less than generic) name which obviously targets one very specific site. Unless it could somehow be molded into a TV news site, but even then, it wouldn't be worth $50K IMHO. As for the current owner of JustinTV.com, well, he gets all that traffic, but other than the nice Quantcast numbers, how could it possibly be monetized except through low-end parking ads. Rob __________________ adsenseworld.com adsenseblogs.com chambly.net iphone-sale.com jeancharest.org prepaidcredit.info & more!

08-31-2009, 12:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
tvdotcoms NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 604	just my 2 cents Justin.tv (Justin is cousin of my classmate, she was wondering how does he make money, and I explained it to her, she was completely freaking out, thats co incidence, I happen to be her classmate for one class) Anyhow, good luck to both parties, justin.tv and justintv.com __________________ www.DoubleMinded.com Is for Sale Premium Domain !!

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HBK216 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,120	If they have not purchased it by now, I highly doubt they will. In a case like this, their marketing & traffic dictates the .tv is worth more. 95K in traffic is NOTHING compared to what they get. I bet it would be easier for them to acquire the name by filing a complaint against this obvious cybersquatter. If the owner's name is Justin, I would feel different. Assuming it is not, it seems obvious why he registered this & domainers like this make me sick. __________________ I've been the man before anyone knew what being the man was all about!

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daj Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,073	The WhoIs says justintv.com was first created in 1999, who's to say he hasn't owned it long since Justin.TV came online?

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