would you reg this .tv?

CDM · 02-22-2009, 04:35 PM

Hi all,

I havnt invested into any .tv before, but today in the course of researching domains i came across one that is available and wonder if its worth registering or not, so maybe some of you more experienced could help me decide.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/561635-would-you-reg-this-tv.html

obviously i wont give up the name of the domain, but will provide you the following detailed criteria

- 1 word
- generic
- using google adwords tool yielded the following results:
approx. avg. monthly search - exact = 18,100
approx. avg. monthly search - phrase = 110,000
- domain in question is the plural, and it is registered already in the singular
- the singular version is only parked
- the name is registered in at least 17 other extensions
- estimated avg CPC is $0.51 (given by google adwords tool)

without knowing the actual domain name would you reg it based on the above, .. i.e., 'i'll take whats behind door #3 bob!' ??

Steven · 02-22-2009, 05:20 PM

I'm not sure. It's better to post the name.
I think you can register it and refund it within 5 days?
If worst comes to worst, it's only $25.

MicroGuy · 02-22-2009, 05:30 PM

It's depends on the domain name, plus your goals and objectives. Without providing this useful information, you are highly unlikely to receive a useful response. IMO.

Expron · 02-22-2009, 05:32 PM

I say you should go ahead & register it. Then share the name. If you get a thumbs down, It's free to delete the domain within 5 days & get a full refund. Just make sure to reg the domain at Dynadot or a similar registry that won't charge you for deleting the domain.

CDM · 02-22-2009, 05:43 PM

fair enough. i'd probably reg it at moniker, they only charge .25 for deletions (i believe). I don't know that id have plans to personally develop it, though i think it has the potential, i was more interested in the possibility of flipping i suppose, or maybe hold for an end-user

TheWatcher · 02-22-2009, 07:19 PM

If you're goal is flipping your .TV, you're in the wrong business right now. Check the .TV marketplace, a lot of decent forsale but no offer.

CDM · 02-22-2009, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by TheWatcher

If you're goal is flipping your .TV, you're in the wrong business right now. Check the .TV marketplace, a lot of decent forsale but no offer.

Thank you for that advice. I have not checked the reseller market here in depth, however i just did peruse through the two threads that were posted here in the forum for 2008 and 2009 sales, and it seems like there are some decent sales.

(edited)

one more questions though, not related to the domain I am pondering above, but on some other possibilities, if given the choice do you feel that the singular or plural fits the .tv better?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561635

(just random examples)
NewHome.tv or NewHomes.tv?
PersonalTrainer.tv or PersonalTrainers.tv?
Barbershop.tv or Barbershops.tv?
Wedding.tv or Weddings.tv?
etc..

Please any opinions on this. thank you very much for all feedback so far.

gilescoley · 02-22-2009, 08:02 PM

I prefer the singular Mike but in some cases the plural can be "just as good", but in most cases the singular is better, thats just my opinion

If you reg it at Dyandot, you can just delete it for credit without a fee and just use the credit to buy a better name

Good luck though

CDM · 06-17-2009, 10:11 PM

someone regged it about 6 weeks after I started this thread

the domain was wargames.tv

now what say ye?

bigdipper · 06-17-2009, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by CDM

someone regged it about 6 weeks after I started this thread

the domain was wargames.tv

now what say ye?

Personally I am not a fan.... i don't think it's any great loss for you.

steveteva · 06-17-2009, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by CDM

someone regged it about 6 weeks after I started this thread
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561635

the domain was wargames.tv

now what say ye?

not worth regging it, Geo are best but also they are "Premium .TV fees" witch cost thousand dollar renewal fees ($1000/year). Many, I say many dot tv live websites are GEO.tv from official tourism org or else.

shaper · 06-18-2009, 01:11 AM

Ya, not a terrible loss. I don't really see an obvious monetization angle that works well with video on that domain.

If you have a development concept and have a vision and the determination to build the site, then its possible to make that domain work.

However, if you are looking to hold with an eye towards resale, then the path to monetization needs to be a fairly obvious one and you need to have a pool of prospective buyers that you or another speculator can identify easily. If you can't identify a buyer or a specific market segment and a way to make it work with visual media, then its going to be a tough sell. It is also important to make sure you can identify a visual use for it.

If I did own that domain, I think I would go for video game reviews (with footage) or try and target a company in that business. Might have some use to the classical wargaming community as a site to do over the internet play of board strategy games, but I think that market is fairly limited, although it presents an interesting angle on virtual conferencing. It has some potential as a news/media type site but identifying the right buyers would be difficult and I don't see a strong monetization angle there, and I do see some intense competition in that area which would be tough to compete against.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561635

The way I see it, to get maximum value has to be entertainment/media related or easily tied to some business or service offering (Geos fit this on several levels which is why they are valuable). If the leap takes a few minutes to figure out how to make it work, its probably not going to be intuitive to your potential buyer pool either. The only exception, is where it simply acts as a potentially high volume keyword, but if you can't tie it to visual media it loses most of the advantages of the extension and is more comparable to a typical cctld.

Overall, it has some potentials, but they are not overly obvious and there are probably better choices at this stage, particularly if you are not planning on developing it yourself.

stutter · 06-18-2009, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by steveteva

not worth regging it, Geo are best but also they are "Premium .TV fees" witch cost thousand dollar renewal fees ($1000/year). Many, I say many dot tv live websites are GEO.tv from official tourism org or else.

Im not sure what your actually trying to say?...I think your mistaken if you think geo tv's are all $1000 and mistaken again that they are owned / run by "official tourism" offices..
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561635

A very weird post in relation to the thread. imo

confused.

CDM · 06-18-2009, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Might have some use to the classical wargaming community as a site to do over the internet play of board strategy games, but I think that market is fairly limited,

that was just the niche I had in mind, but i dont believe its as limited as you say, if you've ever seen people play, my impression was they are fairly fanatical about it. there are even national and world tournaments. throw in a dash of the History Channel (i.e. the military channel) and woosh!

shaper · 06-18-2009, 04:13 PM

There you go, then you answered your own question. Maybe is exactly what that community needs to have, along with tournament ladders and so forth, definitely possibilities to gain a hardcore following which also has value.

The real point is, that you have to find a way to associate it with the media/extension. The other point is that application is not something everyone is going to think of when scanning a list of names. Search results are moderately high at 60k globals, 20k local/us so it is a decent development candidate that might not be overly expensive to set up. What percentage of that group is looking for the type of service proposed is unknown.

The question is whether its a good enough reg at this time, or if there is something better. Anything with a development plan and a desire to develop has some potential. If the name is purchased simply for speculation then the criteria are different, in my opinion.

Anyhow kind of a moot point, since its been grabbed by an unknown third party already. I probably wouldn't have regged it off of a prospect or quick sale list, but if I actually had a development and monetization plan it might be a different story.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561635

I think it is an interesting discussion though, because it shows that creative thinking is a factor in .tv

Many people are locked into the concept that a TV site has to show videos to fit the branding and have the mindset that it will pretty much take a full on video studio to use the extension effectively. Part of the investment game is thinking outside the box a little and anticipating markets and applications to visual media that are broader in definition. Like many things, if you see something first and set an example, your potentials for success increase considerably.

02-22-2009, 04:35 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
CDM NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 454 Follow @DomainAnimal	would you reg this .tv? Hi all, I havnt invested into any .tv before, but today in the course of researching domains i came across one that is available and wonder if its worth registering or not, so maybe some of you more experienced could help me decide. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/561635-would-you-reg-this-tv.html obviously i wont give up the name of the domain, but will provide you the following detailed criteria - 1 word - generic - using google adwords tool yielded the following results: approx. avg. monthly search - exact = 18,100 approx. avg. monthly search - phrase = 110,000 - domain in question is the plural, and it is registered already in the singular - the singular version is only parked - the name is registered in at least 17 other extensions - estimated avg CPC is $0.51 (given by google adwords tool) without knowing the actual domain name would you reg it based on the above, .. i.e., 'i'll take whats behind door #3 bob!' ?? __________________ my domain blog My portfolio on Sedo

02-22-2009, 05:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Steven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Namepros.com Posts: 3,450	I'm not sure. It's better to post the name. I think you can register it and refund it within 5 days? If worst comes to worst, it's only $25. __________________ Domain Name

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MicroGuy Miembro Especial Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Fourth Density Posts: 6,831	It's depends on the domain name, plus your goals and objectives. Without providing this useful information, you are highly unlikely to receive a useful response. IMO. __________________ ...... Astral Projectors Do It In A Vortex!

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Expron Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 682	I say you should go ahead & register it. Then share the name. If you get a thumbs down, It's free to delete the domain within 5 days & get a full refund. Just make sure to reg the domain at Dynadot or a similar registry that won't charge you for deleting the domain. __________________ ****** DropKing.com Drop Catching - Software **** DNMeter Domain drop order with drop times. Domain Afterlife My Drop Catching Blog!**

02-22-2009, 05:43 PM	THREAD STARTER #5 (permalink)
CDM NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 454 Follow @DomainAnimal	fair enough. i'd probably reg it at moniker, they only charge .25 for deletions (i believe). I don't know that id have plans to personally develop it, though i think it has the potential, i was more interested in the possibility of flipping i suppose, or maybe hold for an end-user __________________ my domain blog My portfolio on Sedo

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gilescoley NamePros Expert Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth Posts: 5,736	I prefer the singular Mike but in some cases the plural can be "just as good", but in most cases the singular is better, thats just my opinion If you reg it at Dyandot, you can just delete it for credit without a fee and just use the credit to buy a better name Good luck though __________________ TabletApp.com \| 3DChannel.com \| HoloTech.com \| CloudPros.com \| CloudGuru.com \| CloudPlans.com \| CloudLand.com \| CloudSpecialist.com \| CloudArmy.com \| CloudComputing.co.in \| SolarEU.com \| DevGeek.com \|

06-17-2009, 10:11 PM	THREAD STARTER #9 (permalink)
CDM NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 454 Follow @DomainAnimal	someone regged it about 6 weeks after I started this thread the domain was wargames.tv now what say ye? __________________ my domain blog My portfolio on Sedo

06-18-2009, 01:11 AM	#12 (permalink)
shaper NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 374	Ya, not a terrible loss. I don't really see an obvious monetization angle that works well with video on that domain. If you have a development concept and have a vision and the determination to build the site, then its possible to make that domain work. However, if you are looking to hold with an eye towards resale, then the path to monetization needs to be a fairly obvious one and you need to have a pool of prospective buyers that you or another speculator can identify easily. If you can't identify a buyer or a specific market segment and a way to make it work with visual media, then its going to be a tough sell. It is also important to make sure you can identify a visual use for it. If I did own that domain, I think I would go for video game reviews (with footage) or try and target a company in that business. Might have some use to the classical wargaming community as a site to do over the internet play of board strategy games, but I think that market is fairly limited, although it presents an interesting angle on virtual conferencing. It has some potential as a news/media type site but identifying the right buyers would be difficult and I don't see a strong monetization angle there, and I do see some intense competition in that area which would be tough to compete against. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561635 The way I see it, to get maximum value has to be entertainment/media related or easily tied to some business or service offering (Geos fit this on several levels which is why they are valuable). If the leap takes a few minutes to figure out how to make it work, its probably not going to be intuitive to your potential buyer pool either. The only exception, is where it simply acts as a potentially high volume keyword, but if you can't tie it to visual media it loses most of the advantages of the extension and is more comparable to a typical cctld. Overall, it has some potentials, but they are not overly obvious and there are probably better choices at this stage, particularly if you are not planning on developing it yourself. __________________ victory is everywhere survival equipment City Technology where does

06-18-2009, 04:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
shaper NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 374	There you go, then you answered your own question. Maybe is exactly what that community needs to have, along with tournament ladders and so forth, definitely possibilities to gain a hardcore following which also has value. The real point is, that you have to find a way to associate it with the media/extension. The other point is that application is not something everyone is going to think of when scanning a list of names. Search results are moderately high at 60k globals, 20k local/us so it is a decent development candidate that might not be overly expensive to set up. What percentage of that group is looking for the type of service proposed is unknown. The question is whether its a good enough reg at this time, or if there is something better. Anything with a development plan and a desire to develop has some potential. If the name is purchased simply for speculation then the criteria are different, in my opinion. Anyhow kind of a moot point, since its been grabbed by an unknown third party already. I probably wouldn't have regged it off of a prospect or quick sale list, but if I actually had a development and monetization plan it might be a different story. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561635 I think it is an interesting discussion though, because it shows that creative thinking is a factor in .tv Many people are locked into the concept that a TV site has to show videos to fit the branding and have the mindset that it will pretty much take a full on video studio to use the extension effectively. Part of the investment game is thinking outside the box a little and anticipating markets and applications to visual media that are broader in definition. Like many things, if you see something first and set an example, your potentials for success increase considerably. __________________ victory is everywhere survival equipment City Technology where does

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