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Old 09-24-2008, 08:22 PM   · #1
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Regged my first .TV

I thought if there was anywhere to discuss my .TV reg it would be right here, in the Official Dot TV Domain Discussion Forum!

I'm a big baseball fan, and found all major extensions registered (except for .TV) of one of the best baseball players, Alex Rodriguez.

I got AlexRodriguez(dot)TV. I plan on developing it in the next few weeks

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Here is your official t-shirt, and the red kool-aid is on the table over there next to equity. (He bites, but we drugged him up tonight)

So out of curiosity, why that name?
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Originally Posted by GF
I thought if there was anywhere to discuss my .TV reg it would be right here, in the Official Dot TV Domain Discussion Forum!

I'm a big baseball fan, and found all major extensions registered (except for .TV) of one of the best baseball players, Alex Rodriguez.

I got AlexRodriguez(dot)TV. I plan on developing it in the next few weeks

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Welcome home...

What took you so long?

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GF,

Here is your official t-shirt, and the red kool-aid is on the table over there next to equity. (He bites, but we drugged him up tonight)

So out of curiosity, why that name?





Thank you everyone for the kind messages!

I regged this name while I was watching a Yankee game and thought about registering "OldYankeeStadium.com" since it was the last game being played at Yankee Stadium, and I heard an announcer refer to it as "Old Yankee Stadium".

I was wondering how many players names were registered, and just started searching. Alex Rodriguez, arguably the best baseball player today, had all extensions registered except for .TV - so I figured I'd take it!

I don't know how you all do it with .TV registrations at around $15+ per registration

I look forward to hanging around these parts in the future

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Guys,
Am I missing something here?

GF has regged a major celebrity's name and flagged it in a public forum. Isn't that a problem? If he puts one iota of content on his site that's pertaining to Alex Rodriguez the baseballer, at the very least he's likely to get a tribunal invite or, more likely, a court case for trading off on this guy's name and reputation. My understanding, based on tribunal and legal cases, is that even developing a fan club site of a celeb - where you are using their actual name - can be viewed as trading off.

Fourteen years experience with domain names has drummed home three golden rules to me:

Never reg company names.
Never reg product names.
Never reg celebrity names.

If you reg any of these types of names, you are begging for trouble.
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Originally Posted by rodash
Fourteen years experience with domain names has drummed home three golden rules to me:

Never reg company names.
Never reg product names.
Never reg celebrity names.

If you reg any of these types of names, you are begging for trouble.



Using those rules, you're placing unneccesary limitations on your registrations when you say "Never". In most cases perhaps, but never?

Often times company names and product names can have several meanings. Let's take for example a domain that would be "off limits" and a bad reg according to your rules: "Mora.tv".

It "is" a company name. But it's also: a region in Spain, a city in Minnesota, a County in New Mexico, a Missouri Recycling Association, a type of electromagnetic therepy, etc., etc.
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Originally Posted by rodash
Guys,
Am I missing something here?

GF has regged a major celebrity's name and flagged it in a public forum. Isn't that a problem? If he puts one iota of content on his site that's pertaining to Alex Rodriguez the baseballer, at the very least he's likely to get a tribunal invite or, more likely, a court case for trading off on this guy's name and reputation. My understanding, based on tribunal and legal cases, is that even developing a fan club site of a celeb - where you are using their actual name - can be viewed as trading off.

Fourteen years experience with domain names has drummed home three golden rules to me:

Never reg company names.
Never reg product names.
Never reg celebrity names.

If you reg any of these types of names, you are begging for trouble.



Fully agree, rep added.
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Originally Posted by rodash
Guys,
Am I missing something here?

GF has regged a major celebrity's name and flagged it in a public forum. Isn't that a problem? If he puts one iota of content on his site that's pertaining to Alex Rodriguez the baseballer, at the very least he's likely to get a tribunal invite or, more likely, a court case for trading off on this guy's name and reputation. My understanding, based on tribunal and legal cases, is that even developing a fan club site of a celeb - where you are using their actual name - can be viewed as trading off.

Fourteen years experience with domain names has drummed home three golden rules to me:

Never reg company names.
Never reg product names.
Never reg celebrity names.

If you reg any of these types of names, you are begging for trouble.


There is nothing wrong with this, if it is a fan site. GF may even get permission from Alex. It all depends on what he does with it. Sure, it he just tries to make a fast buck, and intentionally uses Alex's name for another purpose, it could lead to trouble. I don't think that's GF's intentions.

It doesn't even have to be a fan site. There is not only Alex Rodriguez in the world. What if he sold it for $250,000 to another guy name Alex Rodriguez? Maybe this guy is a world renown soccer player, a singer for a rock band in Brazil, or a famous race car driver from Spain? Would GF be in violation by selling this name? I doubt it. Of course, IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Abstracts.tv
There is nothing wrong with this, if it is a fan site. GF may even get permission from Alex. It all depends on what he does with it. Sure, it he just tries to make a fast buck, and intentionally uses Alex's name for another purpose, it could lead to trouble. I don't think that's GF's intentions.

It doesn't even have to be a fan site. There is not only Alex Rodriguez in the world. What if he sold it for $250,000 to another guy name Alex Rodriguez? Maybe this guy is a world renown soccer player, a singer for a rock band in Brazil, or a famous race car driver from Spain? Would GF be in violation by selling this name? I doubt it. Of course, IMHO.

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All EXCELLENT Points!!!...

which is why I need to go register www.AlexRodriguezNewYorkYankeesOverrated.com - just so's the people's out there know which one. (teasing, GF!... teasing!!!)

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Originally Posted by rodash
Guys,
Am I missing something here?

GF has regged a major celebrity's name and flagged it in a public forum. Isn't that a problem? If he puts one iota of content on his site that's pertaining to Alex Rodriguez the baseballer, at the very least he's likely to get a tribunal invite or, more likely, a court case for trading off on this guy's name and reputation. My understanding, based on tribunal and legal cases, is that even developing a fan club site of a celeb - where you are using their actual name - can be viewed as trading off.

Fourteen years experience with domain names has drummed home three golden rules to me:

Never reg company names.
Never reg product names.
Never reg celebrity names.

If you reg any of these types of names, you are begging for trouble.



You need to review those UDRPs and Federal cases again.

Trouble isnt with the name, its in the *use* of the name.

Fansites, anti-fan sites, blogs, review sites, etc, etc are all bona fide fair use situations. What'll get you in trouble for sure is simply parking the name or doing nothing with it for an extended period of time. Even a day on a PPC lander might be enough to lose a case in the wrong situation.

Of course just becasue someone may be operating well within their legal rights doesn't mean they won't piss someone off who's willing to pay a lot of money to make your life more miserable. I suppose it all depends on how thick your skin is.
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There is nothing wrong with this, if it is a fan site. GF may even get permission from Alex. It all depends on what he does with it. Sure, it he just tries to make a fast buck, and intentionally uses Alex's name for another purpose, it could lead to trouble. I don't think that's GF's intentions.
It doesn't even have to be a fan site. There is not only Alex Rodriguez in the world. What if he sold it for $250,000 to another guy name Alex Rodriguez? Maybe this guy is a world renown soccer player, a singer for a rock band in Brazil, or a famous race car driver from Spain? Would GF be in violation by selling this name? I doubt it. Of course, IMHO.
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Frank, it is not about selling the name it is first and foremost about the risky business of registering a famous name in which GF has no right and no legitimate interest excepted the given explanation of, being a baseball fan, having regged this name for possible development. It is about using the name of this personality with the intent to exploit his fame for a personal project or whatsoever. Should GF develop a nice fan site but place Google adsense, refers to commercial sites, it would be easy for a panel to demonstrate GF's intent to attract users for commercial gains by trading on the fame of the baseball player.
I would tend to believe that to avoid any possible conflict it would be wise to obtain permission of the legitime party prior developing even a single page.

Last, why taking the name of a personality and take the risk of an assimilated TM infrigement when you can reg a nice baseball name to celebrate that sport or feature a particular player ? There is something I am missing here, I am sure GF does not have a bad intent for it but there is something I am missing here too.
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Frank, it is not about selling the name it is first and foremost about the risky business of registering a famous name in which GF has no right and no legitimate interest excepted the given explanation of, being a baseball fan, having regged this name for possible development. It is about using the name of this personality with the intent to exploit his fame for a personal project or whatsoever. Should GF develop a nice fan site but place Google adsense, refers to commercial sites, it would be easy for a panel to demonstrate GF's intent to attract users for commercial gains by trading on the fame of the baseball player.
I would tend to believe that to avoid any possible conflict it would be wise to obtain permission of the legitime party prior developing even a single page.

Last, why taking the name of a personality and take the risk of an assimilated TM infrigement when you can reg a nice baseball name to celebrate that sport or feature a particular player ? There is something I am missing here, I am sure GF does not have a bad intent for it but there is something I am missing here too.



I agree 100% with you Argos. I was just pointing out there isn't only one Alex Rodriguez in the world. If your name, or mine was legitimately Alex Rodriguez, what would be wrong with selling it to that person, or buying it if you were Alex Rodriguez. It is a very common name, and there are probably 100 right here in Fresno!
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Great point. This is where most people get confused about what's safe to register. Rep for you!
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