Grow up!!

Len · 09-04-2008, 06:47 AM

It's time some of you grew up and stopped running around like headless chickens everytime somebody reports something negative about .tv.
Do you know what this looks like to outsiders who know very little about the extension?.... The impression is that nobody has a clue and that .tv is going to implode at any moment!!
Why are things being brought up time and time again, even when the answer has been given out numerous times? Either some are not listening or don't want to listen.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/510635-grow-up.html
I am all for healthy debate but what is going on here is mass hysteria!!!
I have noticed that these things are being stirred up by a select few who jump on the negativity bandwagon every time it rolls on by, who seem to have an agenda to destroy this extension. I will not name names because you know who you are.
There are a lot of people on this forum that are really becoming pissed with this and it won't be long before there is an exodus if things continue. From what I see it appears that many have already left or rarely make an appearance these days.
I didn't join this forum to see my .tv's devalued by other's ranting about how bad things are in the .tv world when in reality they are not. Don't blame the ext for your mistakes, especially those that purchased 100's of crap names and are now crying that .tv sucks because they didn't sell.

This is really simple, if you don't like .tv stay away from the forum! Why are you here in the first place?

StoneRoses · 09-04-2008, 06:56 AM

Amen to that Len.

It's been going on far to long now.

Every post that highlights something positive is being trashed, regular members who used to contribute great threads are no longer posting,and we are seeing the same names bring up the same old issues time and time again.

Sub forum rule 6 !!

bigdipper · 09-04-2008, 07:46 AM

It's funny b/c it's almost like the cat has been let out of the bag with .tv - but someone keeps trying to put it back in... lol

It's almost comical to me.

It is beyond me how some people cannot see the outrageously ridiculous potential of a .tv.

.tv (to me) is the 1st extension that i have found that is as exciting (or even more so depending upon the name) as the .coms - although for slightly different reasons.

This is just my humble opinion here.

Makis.TV · 09-04-2008, 08:05 AM

i dont think .tv will get devaluated by such posts, its just a bad influence for people(resellers) that want to start buying .tv's

hullswingerscom · 09-04-2008, 08:11 AM

i dont see any bad posts?

MicroGuy · 09-04-2008, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Len

Don't blame the ext for your mistakes, especially those that purchased 100's of crap names and are now crying that .tv sucks because they didn't sell.

I have not read a SINGLE post from anyone saying that .TV sucks. Most of the frustration seems to be related to the total mismanagement of an extension they love. IMO.

mckennaronnie · 09-04-2008, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Len

It's time some of you grew up and stopped running around like headless chickens everytime somebody reports something negative about .tv.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=510635
Do you know what this looks like to outsiders who know very little about the extension?.... The impression is that nobody has a clue and that .tv is going to implode at any moment!!
Why are things being brought up time and time again, even when the answer has been given out numerous times? Either some are not listening or don't want to listen.
I am all for healthy debate but what is going on here is mass hysteria!!!
I have noticed that these things are being stirred up by a select few who jump on the negativity bandwagon every time it rolls on by, who seem to have an agenda to destroy this extension. I will not name names because you know who you are.
There are a lot of people on this forum that are really becoming pissed with this and it won't be long before there is an exodus if things continue. From what I see it appears that many have already left or rarely make an appearance these days.
I didn't join this forum to see my .tv's devalued by other's ranting about how bad things are in the .tv world when in reality they are not. Don't blame the ext for your mistakes, especially those that purchased 100's of crap names and are now crying that .tv sucks because they didn't sell.

This is really simple, if you don't like .tv stay away from the forum! Why are you here in the first place?

100% agreed Len
To any newbie or outsider then this forum is full of reasons to avoid .TV due to some members only posting when negativity is the subject.
Positive threads get few posts, negativity is the only subject half of this forum cares for & it's killing this place.

I've tried to point this out a number of times but Len took the more direct aproach, good on you mate!

Cheers,
Ronnie, p1ssed off .tv'er

TheWatcher · 09-04-2008, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Len

It's time some of you grew up and stopped running around like headless chickens everytime somebody reports something negative about .tv.
Do you know what this looks like to outsiders who know very little about the extension?.... The impression is that nobody has a clue and that .tv is going to implode at any moment!!
Why are things being brought up time and time again, even when the answer has been given out numerous times? Either some are not listening or don't want to listen.
I am all for healthy debate but what is going on here is mass hysteria!!!
I have noticed that these things are being stirred up by a select few who jump on the negativity bandwagon every time it rolls on by, who seem to have an agenda to destroy this extension. I will not name names because you know who you are.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=510635
There are a lot of people on this forum that are really becoming pissed with this and it won't be long before there is an exodus if things continue. From what I see it appears that many have already left or rarely make an appearance these days.
I didn't join this forum to see my .tv's devalued by other's ranting about how bad things are in the .tv world when in reality they are not. Don't blame the ext for your mistakes, especially those that purchased 100's of crap names and are now crying that .tv sucks because they didn't sell.

This is really simple, if you don't like .tv stay away from the forum! Why are you here in the first place?

Another amen!

virtuali · 09-04-2008, 01:09 PM

Listen guys... I brought up the issue with the premiums because that is my experience. Period. I think anybody that knows me on the forum knows that I am one of the most positive on .TV there is here. But as Micro states there is some negligent things going on between enom and verisign... and it would be remiss of me and others not to bring it to the attention of others... let that be good OR BAD experiences. I agree there is some here whom just trash the ext any chance they get.. and that should not have to be tolerated either, as long as it doesnt have validity... if the experience does have merit it should be looked at... even if it is negative.

mckennaronnie · 09-04-2008, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by virtuali

Listen guys... I brought up the issue with the premiums because that is my experience. Period. I think anybody that knows me on the forum knows that I am one of the most positive on .TV there is here. But as Micro states there is some negligent things going on between enom and verisign... and it would be remiss of me and others not to bring it to the attention of others... let that be good OR BAD experiences. I agree there is some here whom just trash the ext any chance they get.. and that should not have to be tolerated either, as long as it doesnt have validity... if the experience does have merit it should be looked at... even if it is negative.

I cant speak for anyone else but i did not intend to point you out as one who only posts about negativity. You have a genuine complaint so you should bring it up and follow it through, i hope you get it sorted.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=510635

Ronnie

Len · 09-04-2008, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by virtuali

Listen guys... I brought up the issue with the premiums because that is my experience. Period. I think anybody that knows me on the forum knows that I am one of the most positive on .TV there is here. But as Micro states there is some negligent things going on between enom and verisign... and it would be remiss of me and others not to bring it to the attention of others... let that be good OR BAD experiences. I agree there is some here whom just trash the ext any chance they get.. and that should not have to be tolerated either, as long as it doesnt have validity... if the experience does have merit it should be looked at... even if it is negative.

I agree with Ronnie on this, you are not being singled out here, you had a valid question which deserved to be answered. My beef is with those that jump into threads (not just yours), and use it for their own gratitude in bashing the extension or trying to portray that there is something seriously wrong with .tv because of one persons problem.
This is now happening on a regular basis, it appears that no matter what you post about your thread gets hi-jacked by the naysayers.

TheBulldog · 09-04-2008, 02:15 PM

Well if it is me, you are misunderstanding.....

I do like the .tv extension.

A lot.

That being said, I strongly believe it is being mismanaged by demand media/enom. And this forum in my opinion is EXACTLY the place that needs to be said. Newcomers should VERY much be aware of what they are getting into and some of the problems others have faced.

To simply bury those issues is not the right thing to do and I applaud Equity for making sure all the opinions are mainly open to the public rather then having a cheerleaders only hidden agenda.

AGAIN: I like .tv just fine.
I do NOT like how it is being "managed" by Enom et all.

MicroGuy · 09-04-2008, 02:15 PM

We could always start a .TV Glee Club.

Len · 09-04-2008, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by MicroGuy

We could always start a .TV Glee Club.

May I refer you to the title of this thread.

hullswingerscom · 09-04-2008, 02:19 PM

well it looks like i will be little scared to say anything a little negative about tv from now on!

i did post about my proplem with tv and google,but i do think it was a interesting thread...
got to hear both side of tv not just good.

i think we all get on pritty well...but maybe it best not to say anything bad about tv in this forum

mckennaronnie · 09-04-2008, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by hullswingerscom

well it looks like i will be little scared to say anything a little negative about tv from now on!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=510635

i did post about my proplem with tv and google,but i do think it was a interesting thread...
got to hear both side of tv not just good.

i think we all get on pritty well...but maybe it best not to say anything bad about tv in this forum

Same old
Nobody has a problem with a negative post or thread but ONLY if there is a point to it, its in the right place, the same negative matter wont be used over & over & over again.......

So before almost everyone says "guess i cant say anything bad about .tv ever

"

Its not about 1 negative post or comment, its not about hiding the truth, its not that we are sensitive about our names being hurt....

equity78 · 09-04-2008, 03:08 PM

Virtuali no one talking about you, if they were your thread would not be stickied.

jeffoverman · 09-04-2008, 04:21 PM

i am getting tired of things as well....scaring the great members off and by the sounds of things and looks it looks like people like snoop and a couple others now are "winning" and getting the great .tv forum members out of here...

its really bad it seems..

i have learned a lot from thread last night...i hope people didnt mind if i had asked dumb questions on this......

Len · 09-04-2008, 04:41 PM

Jeff, I'm sure no one has any problem with people asking genuine questions looking for answers or help. My concern is the constant hi-jacking of threads with people having nothing constructive to say in response to the initial question and subsequently turning the thread around into a .tv bashing exercise for no reason other than to get their digs in.

jeffoverman · 09-04-2008, 04:54 PM

thanks len...

j

-db- · 09-04-2008, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by jeffoverman

...people like snoop and a couple others now are "winning" and getting the great .tv forum members out of here...

Snoop is NOT the anti-TV evil-force that you guys make him out to be. Some of you could learn from him, if you would put away your pride for a moment and just 'listen' without immediately taking offense by everything he says. Yes, he has issues with .TV and he expresses them. That's his right. But he does not deserve to be treated with such animosity or singled out. It seems the man can barely open his mouth these days without getting bashed from every direction, and called a troll. Snoop is a respected and successful domainer, and while he might be blunt and refuse to sugar coat his opinions, he is most definitely not chasing away our members.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=510635

If you want some examples of REAL trolls... believe me, I can show you plenty, and Snoop is not one of them.

Meanwhile, equity78 is running around trying to keep everyone happy, walking a tight rope. He works very hard on this .TV forum, and it's not fair that he often winds up with people pulling him in both directions trying to test his loyalties. I wouldn't blame him if he just quit and left. Hopefully he won't do that because we need him. This .TV forum would even exist, and certainly wouldn't still be around if not for him. And you will notice that he doesn't flame people or go crazy when somebody says something he disagrees with. Instead, he replies with facts and logic. He doesn't call the person(s) names and accuse them of being trolls or trouble makers. Instead he tries to prove them wrong.

Some of you guys need to grow a thicker skin and start focusing on the positive things instead of obsessing on the negative ones. If somebody says something about .TV you think is wrong or unfair, don't get ugly about it. Prove them wrong. Follow equity78's lead.

Damn it, this post has used up all my energy and now I have to go take a nap.

equity78 · 09-04-2008, 05:53 PM

I appreciate the kind words Tim, now I have always made it clear I am not fond of SNOOP, not because he does not like .tv, I like my portfolio if no one in the world did I could care less no one here or who I know in real life is buying my names for the prices I want, so I truly do not care.

My problem with SNOOP is saying the same thing over and over, or potshotting, or trying to rain on someones thread when they have a sale, he is not part of this community, someone like BULLDOG makes negative posts but he is a contributor so it makes sense someone has likes and dislikes. Its the people who do not even own a .tv coming here and talking crap. Funny thing RJ acknowledges the forum was started with RULES from day 1 that are different from any other section, probably because the forum was set up that way for a reason.

Here is another thing Tim, you ever see .tv mentioned in Domain Discussion ? never if I see a thread I move to here. UNlike other domain interests.

You know Tim you were here the way we talk about .tv as an inside joke me and badger, .mike was .tv sucks. I could care less who here likes .tv never did. Here is another thing find a thread where I ever told anyone .tv was great or to reg a .tv. NEVER. If you like .tv let's talk, I will give you some opinions if you do not I do not want to sell you. You do not need .tv and .tv does not need you.

jeffoverman · 09-04-2008, 05:54 PM

db i agree with most of the things your saying and your thoughts on equity..

when your in the .tv forum and reading the remarks he makes, stabs, same old stuff from him over and over, its getting really old.... he claims there are no .tv sales...then he claims the future of .tv is not bright.... with the amount of times i had been on .tv forum, i think almost everyone can agree to my thoughts on snoop.

the only thing i respect on snoop is his amazing .com names like dolls.com and a few others...yes he is a great domainer, has type in traffic, high value names in .com

but for you to say i am wrong and i seen him over the year and spend hours on .tv forum each day until recently its amazing to hear this.

i respect you and you being a moderator...you cant please everyone, everyone has there thoughts and thinking...just like your thoughts, i have my thoughts...ask people in .tv forum how annoyed they are with snoop and i am sure they will agree with me on things...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=510635

my last comment in this thread...read it for whats its worth, but i am worried on where .tv forum is headed and its because of trolls like snoop and others are making the .tv forum not as great as it was when i first joined...having a healthy debate is a good thing and we will have disagreements...thats fine... but what has been occuring for a few months here, its getting really bad.

sorry for responding back like this but i just had to say this and express my worries on this issue and this forum...i am not on as much anymore..

good luck and db-sorry if this upsets you and again i respect your moderation duties on namespros, would be a tough job to do and being a moderator..

glad ray posted... just read when i was writting my post...good points ray...

finster · 09-04-2008, 07:49 PM

Guys! You should forget all the yakyak and DEVELOP! If you have the time put *something* up an dgive people a reason to come back. That'll do more for .tv than anything else.

snoop · 09-04-2008, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by jeffoverman

i respect you and you being a moderator...you cant please everyone, everyone has there thoughts and thinking...just like your thoughts, i have my thoughts...ask people in .tv forum how annoyed they are with snoop and i am sure they will agree with me on things...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=510635

Naturally alot of people are going to be annoyed because lots of people do not want to hear negative comments about extensions that they own (but not all, as a certain % like hearing opinions on both sides).

09-04-2008, 06:47 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
Len dot TV'er Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Central Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,757	Grow up!! It's time some of you grew up and stopped running around like headless chickens everytime somebody reports something negative about .tv. Do you know what this looks like to outsiders who know very little about the extension?.... The impression is that nobody has a clue and that .tv is going to implode at any moment!! Why are things being brought up time and time again, even when the answer has been given out numerous times? Either some are not listening or don't want to listen. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/510635-grow-up.html I am all for healthy debate but what is going on here is mass hysteria!!! I have noticed that these things are being stirred up by a select few who jump on the negativity bandwagon every time it rolls on by, who seem to have an agenda to destroy this extension. I will not name names because you know who you are. There are a lot of people on this forum that are really becoming pissed with this and it won't be long before there is an exodus if things continue. From what I see it appears that many have already left or rarely make an appearance these days. I didn't join this forum to see my .tv's devalued by other's ranting about how bad things are in the .tv world when in reality they are not. Don't blame the ext for your mistakes, especially those that purchased 100's of crap names and are now crying that .tv sucks because they didn't sell. This is really simple, if you don't like .tv stay away from the forum! Why are you here in the first place?

09-04-2008, 06:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
StoneRoses Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: PetInsurance.tv Posts: 2,351	Amen to that Len. It's been going on far to long now. Every post that highlights something positive is being trashed, regular members who used to contribute great threads are no longer posting,and we are seeing the same names bring up the same old issues time and time again. Sub forum rule 6 !! __________________ PetInsurance.tv Pet Blog Last edited by StoneRoses; 09-04-2008 at 07:06 AM.

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09-04-2008, 01:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
virtuali NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 404	Listen guys... I brought up the issue with the premiums because that is my experience. Period. I think anybody that knows me on the forum knows that I am one of the most positive on .TV there is here. But as Micro states there is some negligent things going on between enom and verisign... and it would be remiss of me and others not to bring it to the attention of others... let that be good OR BAD experiences. I agree there is some here whom just trash the ext any chance they get.. and that should not have to be tolerated either, as long as it doesnt have validity... if the experience does have merit it should be looked at... even if it is negative. Last edited by virtuali; 09-04-2008 at 01:14 PM.

09-04-2008, 07:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
bigdipper NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 219	It's funny b/c it's almost like the cat has been let out of the bag with .tv - but someone keeps trying to put it back in... lol It's almost comical to me. It is beyond me how some people cannot see the outrageously ridiculous potential of a .tv. .tv (to me) is the 1st extension that i have found that is as exciting (or even more so depending upon the name) as the .coms - although for slightly different reasons. This is just my humble opinion here.

09-04-2008, 02:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
TheBulldog Your Showbiz Connection Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Spam-It's what's for dinner. Posts: 4,725	Well if it is me, you are misunderstanding..... I do like the .tv extension. A lot. That being said, I strongly believe it is being mismanaged by demand media/enom. And this forum in my opinion is EXACTLY the place that needs to be said. Newcomers should VERY much be aware of what they are getting into and some of the problems others have faced. To simply bury those issues is not the right thing to do and I applaud Equity for making sure all the opinions are mainly open to the public rather then having a cheerleaders only hidden agenda. AGAIN: I like .tv just fine. I do NOT like how it is being "managed" by Enom et all. __________________ ════════════════►◊ Funny Google Voice Translations

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MicroGuy Miembro Especial Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Debunking ccTLD Posts: 6,801	We could always start a .TV Glee Club. __________________ ......

09-04-2008, 02:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
hullswingerscom Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: yorkshire Posts: 2,363	well it looks like i will be little scared to say anything a little negative about tv from now on! i did post about my proplem with tv and google,but i do think it was a interesting thread... got to hear both side of tv not just good. i think we all get on pritty well...but maybe it best not to say anything bad about tv in this forum __________________ www.transport.tv

09-04-2008, 03:08 PM	#17 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,568	Virtuali no one talking about you, if they were your thread would not be stickied. __________________ Congrats and Thank you to RJ Protect your brand,secure your .sucks today Last edited by equity78; 09-04-2008 at 03:47 PM.

09-04-2008, 04:21 PM	#18 (permalink)
jeffoverman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,345	i am getting tired of things as well....scaring the great members off and by the sounds of things and looks it looks like people like snoop and a couple others now are "winning" and getting the great .tv forum members out of here... its really bad it seems.. i have learned a lot from thread last night...i hope people didnt mind if i had asked dumb questions on this...... __________________ Save Your Money On .Co and buy a nice .com name in the after market!

09-04-2008, 04:41 PM	THREAD STARTER #19 (permalink)
Len dot TV'er Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Central Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,757	Jeff, I'm sure no one has any problem with people asking genuine questions looking for answers or help. My concern is the constant hi-jacking of threads with people having nothing constructive to say in response to the initial question and subsequently turning the thread around into a .tv bashing exercise for no reason other than to get their digs in.

09-04-2008, 04:54 PM	#20 (permalink)
jeffoverman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,345	thanks len... j __________________ Save Your Money On .Co and buy a nice .com name in the after market!

09-04-2008, 05:53 PM	#22 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,568	I appreciate the kind words Tim, now I have always made it clear I am not fond of SNOOP, not because he does not like .tv, I like my portfolio if no one in the world did I could care less no one here or who I know in real life is buying my names for the prices I want, so I truly do not care. My problem with SNOOP is saying the same thing over and over, or potshotting, or trying to rain on someones thread when they have a sale, he is not part of this community, someone like BULLDOG makes negative posts but he is a contributor so it makes sense someone has likes and dislikes. Its the people who do not even own a .tv coming here and talking crap. Funny thing RJ acknowledges the forum was started with RULES from day 1 that are different from any other section, probably because the forum was set up that way for a reason. Here is another thing Tim, you ever see .tv mentioned in Domain Discussion ? never if I see a thread I move to here. UNlike other domain interests. You know Tim you were here the way we talk about .tv as an inside joke me and badger, .mike was .tv sucks. I could care less who here likes .tv never did. Here is another thing find a thread where I ever told anyone .tv was great or to reg a .tv. NEVER. If you like .tv let's talk, I will give you some opinions if you do not I do not want to sell you. You do not need .tv and .tv does not need you. __________________ Congrats and Thank you to RJ Protect your brand,secure your .sucks today

09-04-2008, 05:54 PM	#23 (permalink)
jeffoverman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,345	db i agree with most of the things your saying and your thoughts on equity.. when your in the .tv forum and reading the remarks he makes, stabs, same old stuff from him over and over, its getting really old.... he claims there are no .tv sales...then he claims the future of .tv is not bright.... with the amount of times i had been on .tv forum, i think almost everyone can agree to my thoughts on snoop. the only thing i respect on snoop is his amazing .com names like dolls.com and a few others...yes he is a great domainer, has type in traffic, high value names in .com but for you to say i am wrong and i seen him over the year and spend hours on .tv forum each day until recently its amazing to hear this. i respect you and you being a moderator...you cant please everyone, everyone has there thoughts and thinking...just like your thoughts, i have my thoughts...ask people in .tv forum how annoyed they are with snoop and i am sure they will agree with me on things... ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=510635 my last comment in this thread...read it for whats its worth, but i am worried on where .tv forum is headed and its because of trolls like snoop and others are making the .tv forum not as great as it was when i first joined...having a healthy debate is a good thing and we will have disagreements...thats fine... but what has been occuring for a few months here, its getting really bad. sorry for responding back like this but i just had to say this and express my worries on this issue and this forum...i am not on as much anymore.. good luck and db-sorry if this upsets you and again i respect your moderation duties on namespros, would be a tough job to do and being a moderator.. glad ray posted... just read when i was writting my post...good points ray... __________________ Save Your Money On .Co and buy a nice .com name in the after market!

09-04-2008, 07:49 PM	#24 (permalink)
finster Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,593	Guys! You should forget all the yakyak and DEVELOP! If you have the time put something up an dgive people a reason to come back. That'll do more for .tv than anything else. __________________ .

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