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Old 08-01-2008, 12:48 PM THREAD STARTER               #1 (permalink)
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when you know your hunch starts paying off


is when you have a conversation along the lines of today........

Before we are even starting our ad campaign........

Advertiser - so how much for sole advertising of New York? .......listen I have a close friend in New Jersey - I know he would want in - can you hold both spots till Monday???

(AllI was looking was 9 local experts (sorry George!!) to blog once week for free providing mountains of fresh content over the year in return for exposure of their business!!!!)

Yes, I can do both spots.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/499158-when-you-know-your-hunch-starts.html

Advertiser - what would it cost us for New York and New Jersey in all categories??!!!!

Well, we havent finilised our pricing points and it is a little complicated given that the New York spot is more expensive than the Kansas spot for example, so many different factors need to be taken into account, but obviously we are a strong believer in multiple spot discounts Sir.......

Advertiser - Ok - I will get back to you on Momday morning.........

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so, ..........to summarise? ........... !
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Are you having a GOOD day by any chance?
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It doesn't sound like 'good' quite covers it, imo.
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Originally Posted by arnie
so, ..........to summarise? ........... !
this early in the game, before the site is up even - all he has are threescreenshots - its gotta be a good omen of things to come once i launch and have a managed ppc campaign..........
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Jimbo - my breathing is awful right now, but this is certainly cheering me up....

we need to
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Good to hear Millers that you have advertisers buying in, good luck to you on the site.
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Originally Posted by equity78
Good to hear Millers that you have advertisers buying in, good luck to you on the site.
thankyou

RW - It doesn't sound like 'good' quite covers it, imo.

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Best of Luck with the site James!

Hope your health is OK

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Originally Posted by hullswingerscom
whats the site???????
hopefully i will be able to launch on september 1st and all shall be revealed - guess what - theres not one google ad on the entire site - a trend i am noticing with more and more seriously developed sites - another major difference to the wastelands of the .com
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You deserve it Millers ... you made you own luck plowing away at the unbeaten

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Hard work and initiative paying off!

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Originally Posted by MillersCrossing
theres not one google ad on the entire site - a trend i am noticing with more and more seriously developed sites - another major difference to the wastelands of the .com
You are heading into right direction.
Most serious business related sites do NOT have any ads like Google or Yahoo.
I have few domains I am developing right now and they will not have any such ads.
We all should try to get ads directly from advertisers.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=499158

How did you get initial contact?
Did you contact them first or they contacted you?
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As any new business starting from scratch- you will be contacting them - but i was not even contacting them to advertise - i had contacted a guy a week earlier with an initial email asking if he was prepared to act as an expert on my site and win relationships with potential clients through answering questions put to them by viewers in return for fresh quality content....

That led to a couple of calls during which timeI showed him my ad revenue model and he was so impressed by it - it is a unique system - that he wanted to grab the NY and NJ territory in all categories immediately - I told him he would have to wait till we confirmed our pricing formulas as right now I was just contacting him as as expert - but would take the weekend to put together a deal that would take everything into account when we do start going after advertisers........ and that I promised him first shout at both states......

what I am trying to say is that the level of interest/panic!! in his voice to get on board was very healthy sounding!!!!! and bodes well and boosts my confidence that my concept works.......I do still need the help of certain outside experts - they know who they are - and am still employing a PPC campaign manager, but it looks like I will be doing all my own selling - I thought I was a crap salesperson, but after I got my first six experts (three to go) I have my shpiel down to a pleasant patter and cant wait.....
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=499158

Its definately a numbers game , but there are definately numbers!!!

But it helps a million % if you have a UNIQUE angle to hit the advertiser from!!

So whilst I have sold nothing yet, he phoned me on Friday, not the other way round, he asked me about across the board pricing for two statesd , not the other way round...to me those are all good leading indicators....
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Good luck james.. great accomplishments come to those whom deserves them.. and mate you sure do.. congrats and keep us posted.

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Originally Posted by MillersCrossing
initial email asking if he was prepared to act as an expert on my site and win relationships with potential clients through answering questions put to them by viewers in return for fresh quality content....
Wow, and I have to waste time this week writing a business plan around this very simple idea you summerized very nicely.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=499158

As your PPC Campaign Manager will confirm, we did it for two years with zero sales force (just a customer service team).

And as you see by this one advertiser conversation, this concept is so easily understood by our advertiser base that once we launch it - it will be huge. It will work well for you.
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Millers - thanks for sharing the initial stages of your feedback. Congrats and good luck.

Originally Posted by localexperts
Originally Posted by MillersCrossing
initial email asking if he was prepared to act as an expert on my site and win relationships with potential clients through answering questions put to them by viewers in return for fresh quality content....
Wow, and I have to waste time this week writing a business plan around this very simple idea you summerized very nicely.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=499158

As your PPC Campaign Manager will confirm, we did it for two years with zero sales force (just a customer service team).

And as you see by this one advertiser conversation, this concept is so easily understood by our advertiser base that once we launch it - it will be huge. It will work well for you.
Localexperts, thanks for sharing your insights and experience. A simple but powerful concept. I imagine that this may work even better as the economy slows and businesses/professionals look for new revenue sources to survive the downturn.

Also, its pretty clear that customers are switching to online sources as oil prices soar and the credit crunch bites to save money any way possible. That is certainly the case in the UK where gas has hit about $12 a gallon!
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its weird that people sound excited at my ideas over the phone

its weird that i have got 8/9 experts in less than a week
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=499158

its weird that I have a film crew out and about on the streeets of new york

its weird that I have sold a half years advertising for the state of NY and NJ for all its categories

its weird that I am responsible for a kickass website

its weird that I have the ear of the best leads generation person in the business

its weird that i am working hand in hand with his protege

its weird that i am connected to oxygen 24/7 and can do all this

its weird that i have got as an expert someone i mentioned as a .tv sighting - socialsecurity.tv - an attorney specialising in medicare law

weird weird weird!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Len
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So true Len,
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=499158

Here was the first response I got from an expert - it was such a hurtful comment I could have punched her!! and I almost gave up on my first day - she was a long term care expert (she knew her shit) and said anyone who was a real expert didnt need the clients and to be frank would be wasting their valuable time on my site.........mentally I was slamming the phone into her forehead and then into mine - I had called it wrong...........now which window doesnt have the SAFETY CATCH!!!!!

Luckily for me I had sent out a whole batch of emails at the same time and slowly but surely I started to receive really positive feedback including todays from the medicare attorney

" Hello Mr. Barclay,

I am very interested in being involved with your organization. I am an attorney from Austin, Tx with 30+ years experience in the following: Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, Estate Planning, and Long Term Care. I am confident my expertise will allow me to write articles, answer questions, etc...

Please consider me signed up.

Yours very truly,

Mary Ellen Felps"

9 ARTICLES X 52 + 9 QUESTIONS ANSWERED DAILY X 352 - ALOT OF FREE TRAFFIC AND i COULD EXPAND THE THEME TO ATTORNEYS/HEALTH INSURANCE AGENTS /FINANCIAL PLANNERS ALL AT 3X3 EXPERTS...........

FATE IS HUGE!
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As Kerry will tell you, comments like that are common place. It doesn't mean you service can't help the 98% of folks who don't make stupid comments.
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