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05-09-2008, 06:42 PM
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· #1 | | NamePros Addict Join Date: Oct 2004
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05-09-2008, 06:58 PM
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· #2 | | Your Showbiz Connection Name: I am right Location: behind you, eating a cheese sammmy. Join Date: Feb 2007
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05-09-2008, 07:12 PM
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· #3 | | NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2007
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| I have voted for protection, although I don't mind them.
I have a premium .tv that gets alot of run off traffic from its counterpart tv.com (great for me but not so good for the tv.com guy). Thats why I would always try and reg the tv.com for protection. | |
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05-09-2008, 07:15 PM
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· #4 | | NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2007
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| Where is the option for "prefer them over the .tv"
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05-09-2008, 07:41 PM
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· #5 | | Your Showbiz Connection Name: I am right Location: behind you, eating a cheese sammmy. Join Date: Feb 2007
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| You know, that's an interesting point Marck.
Depending on the name, and obviously the extensions inherent problems, there is much to be said for tv.com of .tv. In the end, a ccTLD could collapse and be gone without notice. Anything with a .com, in the relative scheme of things, is probably safer then a .tv. Hence, the argument for tv.com over tv does have some solidly good reasons.
Not that I don't believe in it, just that looking at it from a broad perspective, it is good to see the whole picture. | |
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05-09-2008, 07:49 PM
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· #6 | | NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Should have reged it in 92 
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05-09-2008, 08:40 PM
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· #7 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Love them. Only own probably 15 to 20 but the registration fees are a bonus and this format you can people are catching on to this. | |
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05-09-2008, 09:19 PM
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· #8 | | NamePros Member | much prefer tv.com over tv.tv
This may change over time..... | |
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05-10-2008, 01:15 AM
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· #9 | | NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2008
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| Don't just love them - but really, really, love them.
As short as possible...
They are cheaper to handreg than ALL other extensions
They have no ridiculous premiums
They are dotcom - and as we all know 'dotcom is king'
The message they give is simple - they are websites that have converged or are ready for Web2.0
(in other words they are not just words and pictures, but audio visual as well).
They are instantly recognised and understood. If you see JogTV.com or MoneyTV.com you know immediately what they are about - without having seen them.
It is a safer bet than any other extension
(For example: if Scotland becomes independent how valuable would .co.uk names be for UK companies - or if Tuvalu finally sinks under the sea who would take over the extension - or just as bad, if hundreds more extensions are launched, how irrelevant would they all become compared to .com)
The increased number of handregs of TV.com proves that there is still a seam of gold in the .com world.
Sales are beginning to filter through for TV.com - but more importantly most TV.com names are NOT being put up for sale.
They don't rock the domain establishment (try getting a .tv in an auction and you'll see what I mean).
They feel natural to most people - in other words people aren't having to be re-educated as to why .MOBI or .TV or .JOBS are better to use.
And finally, two things -
1. If Bulldog says they are great - then they are great.
2. If you look at SmashFactory's portfolio - she seems to deal in as many TV.com these days as .TV - and who would disagree with the Queen of Domains?
Having said all that - this is not a slur on .TV
If I could have the .TV extension at the same time I would.
.TV or TV.com - it's not a competition like VHS and Betamax. It's more like Cruise.co.uk and Cruises.co.uk (you should try and get both)
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05-10-2008, 01:53 AM
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· #10 | | NamePros Addict Join Date: Oct 2004
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| That would depend on what you own in tv.tv
Sixtv.tv since June has earned 5 times its $25 reg fee
Girlstv.tv has had 6 offers Highest being $2000
USAtv.tv highest offer $600 24 times reg fee
I know pokertv.tv earned its reg fee in a month on Fabulous
I know RL (Roy) has a monster sportstv.tv portfolio that is doing excellent.
All depends what you own in tv.tv
A network like GOL TV chose GOLtv.tv while the GOL.tv was available for $5000 a year
and while I am a fan of tv.com there have not been enough sales to jump up and down about and there are not many that stand out as popular sites to the public. Maniatv.com probably being the best, that along with G4tv.com which is an actual cable channel. | |
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05-10-2008, 02:51 AM
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· #11 | | NamePros Legend Name: Domainer.tv Location: Domainer.tv Join Date: Jan 2007
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| Personally, I like TV.com a lot as well as the .tv extention | |
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05-10-2008, 03:12 AM
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· #12 | | Senior Member Name: Ronnie Location: Scotland, UK Join Date: Dec 2005
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| I only like tv.com with terms that sit naturally well with TV.
So OnlineTV.com is great as people think of 'Online Tv'
same with PornTV.com, SportTV.com....etc (pretty obvious though)
Where i really dislike much of what has happened with tv.com regs lately is domains like WashingMachinesTV.com, PetFoodtv.com or any number of terms that bear no relation to TV so look stupid as tv.com's
I know many see the whole tv.com thing different to me and have convincing arguements but to me it looks all wrong and can confuse (much like tv.tv can when used wrong IMHO)
The only other time i have regged a TV.com is as protection when i have developed a .tv incase some of the users have got confused and ended up typing in xxxxxtv.com rather than xxxxx.tv
I regret not buying the tv.com versions of all my Geo's though as i hope to develop them all and cuase i think Geotv.com's work well, look Ok and can be easily branded. I made a mistake not reggin all the tv.com's of my Geo's as most were available when i started buying up all my Geo .tv's but it is a mistake i have to live with as other domainers have snapped them all up 
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05-10-2008, 06:41 AM
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· #13 | | Domain Goddess Name: Queen of Domainland Join Date: Feb 2006
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| own plenty of both- and some televisions-
i believe you need to have variety for a client if you want to capture a sale- i love things videocentric-
i see .tv growing in leaps and bounds, and have sold more .tv's than tv.coms thus far-
but when someone is looking for videocentric, and they want .tv, i want to have stuff, and if they prefer tv.com, i want to have stuff.
i like them both- they each have their own fanbase- but as i see the sites using .tv- to "me" i see > .tv < as the .com of the videocentric world. tv.com is cool, and yes, it is a com- but i just think things are different with .tv
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05-10-2008, 08:24 AM
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· #14 | | Senior Member Location: Carlsbad, CA Join Date: Sep 2004
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| love them.
Even more than .tv in MOST instances, and definately over the shall I say ridiculous premium renewal fees. I think a must have if developing on the .tv as protection. If a .tv was available, but marked premium, I would attempt obtaining the tv.com instead for a development project. | |
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05-10-2008, 10:11 AM
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· #15 | | NamePros Regular Location: Toronto Join Date: Nov 2006
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| tv.com is very strong because it has been accepted by the general public above and beyond even a .tv - when I tell a laymen to go to address.tv, I will often get a response like addresstv.com?
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05-10-2008, 10:45 AM
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· #16 | | NamePros Regular Location: Los Angeles Join Date: Jan 2007
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| I own several hundred TV.com domains. I think they have obvious value. They are great for defensive regs and can be developed as stand alones as well. If I own both the .TV and TV.com I will use the .tv and forward the .com.
There is zero doubt in my mind long term .TV will carry more of intrinsic value. They will be the more intuitive of the two and in some cases will go head head to head with the generic .com itself in terms of video channels. The TV.com will be second fiddle in these cases.
One thing is clear BOTH will be viable and you will not need both to run a successful business. However, keep in mind, Hollywood.tv is a generic just like Hollywood.com is. HollywoodTV.com is not the generic. It is the best TV.TLD out there but is still 2nd tier in this regard and this gap will grow. TV.org, TV.co.uk TV.tv will all be used as well.
At the end of the day type in will increase for both TV.com and .TV. Both can be separate sites and both can make money at the same time and both will bleed traffic traffic to each other. In fact, it is way too easy to tell in what proportions this will happen. I have several .TV domains where the TV.com is developed in which my traffic is continually growing.
My feeling is, as .TV gets better branded and used in the coming years far less traffic will bleed over to the TV.com and far more will go to the .TV. With effective branding of a .TV site and if you meet the expectation of quality video content, you will be successful and own the "premiere" brand.
Yes right now .com is king but in the case of TV video sites, TV will be king IMO second to only the generic .com in some cases, not the TV.com. We are in the very very early stages of this. Any way you look at it, head to head any .tv vs TV.com, TV is shorter and generic, the .com is longer in every case. That is why intuitively .TV makes more sense.
I think we look back at this thread years down the line and realize how much people underestimated the future battle between .com and .tv, not TV.com which will be used of course but way less valuable in many many cases.
One other huge factor I forgot to mention.
.TV works across all country codes worldwide while TV.com does not not. Meaning TV means the same thing to all people across the world. Many do not use .com but their own country codes. These people are far more apt to embrace .TV (and are) then TV.com. This gap will widen too as many do not use .com. They will look to .TV for their video channels, not TV.com. So world dynamics are a vital part of the debate in terms of preference.
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05-10-2008, 08:18 PM
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· #17 | | Senior Member Location: GeographicChannel Join Date: Aug 2007
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05-11-2008, 10:50 AM
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· #18 | | NamePros Member | with current trend of WEB and TV merge - .TV will be major extention of this process.
I have no any TV.com and only 1 .TV , so i have no reasons to support either one
of them.
TV.COM "are great for defensive regs" as previous poster said.
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