wedding.tv - now 10k

domainacrobat · 06-18-2007, 01:07 PM

I saw it finally came down to a premium status!

Only a mere 10k!

Sweet! count me out!

RL · 06-18-2007, 01:55 PM

domainacrobat · 06-18-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by CashCowDomains

.TV is going down. What a shame, as it had so much potential.

HUH? Whay would you say such a thing just because wedding.tv is a premium? Care to elaborate? This is how it has always been. Even when you made your high sales and even woth stockmarket.tv in NY traffic you still think its going down? Maybe you are upset because they revoked the domains... I am sorry for that but that happens.

I am suprised wedding.tv isnt more than 10k to be honest.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/340732-wedding-tv-now-10k.html

JUST A NOTE THIS DOMAIN WAS REGFEE. NOT A PREMIUM. IT WAS RECLAIMED!!!

RL · 06-18-2007, 03:19 PM

equity78 · 06-18-2007, 03:23 PM

That's absolutely bogus you knew it was a glitch you and everyone else know there are no $10 .tv domains and secondly that online.tv had a special deal for renewals and that those $10 were not new registration fees

And I have regged domains example inter.tv for $100 Verisign came back said it was not really available there was a glitch.

.tv will be fine whether you own them or not

And lastly people can debate or moan all they like every REGISTRAR has in their terms of service that they can take back a REGISTRATION in the first 30 days for ANY REASON

RL · 06-18-2007, 03:30 PM

equity78 · 06-18-2007, 03:34 PM

I am wide awake Roy, I went into regging .tv domains fully aware of who owns the Company, and what their terms of service and in the 5 years I have owned .tv domains I have had nothing go against their terms of service.

Clueless IMO would be people exploiting a glitch and thinking it was going to hold up when they know there is a Registration Agreement that bails out every glitch for every Registrar for the first 30 days

RL · 06-18-2007, 03:34 PM

.jd. · 06-18-2007, 03:36 PM

so in this case, cashcow is just complaining cuase he can't keep what he bought unfairly? You can't live with the motto "some one else's mistake, is my gain"...

equity78 · 06-18-2007, 03:37 PM

They have Roy I regged Inter.tv for $100 they took it but I understood it was a glitch it showed available but it should not have shown available.

RL · 06-18-2007, 03:38 PM

lol.

equity78 · 06-18-2007, 03:40 PM

And Roy I worked for more people to get domains back in .tv then anyone I was the one who spent Christmas Eve chatting with fleaking and calling versign contacting people who know the law who told me READ THE REGISTRATION AGREEMENT. Fleaking knows I spent the whole weekend chatting with him about PETS.tv

virtuali · 06-18-2007, 03:49 PM

I have to put in my 2 cents here... I am not sure why everybody is surprised by this. This is standard procedure for any company. All companies have a clause in there agreements that will allow them to make any changes within certain duration of time. Do you really think a multi-million dollar operation like verisign and demand media would not have there basis covered in all directions..????? To me this is just naive. I understand the frustration, but at the end of the day this company owns the rights to these names and can do what they want. End of story.

TheBulldog · 06-18-2007, 03:54 PM

Yeah, it sucks, but isn't surprising.

Much like if Ford mistakingly printed an add for a $10 Ford Ranger. In a court of law they could very easily prove it was a mistake and not be forced to sell because of truth in advertising laws.

RL · 06-18-2007, 03:58 PM

TheBulldog · 06-18-2007, 03:59 PM

CCD, all registrars have this. It isn't anything new.

Vimal · 06-18-2007, 04:02 PM

Cashcowdomains its unfair of you saying equity78 doesnt stand by other .TV domain owners. He has spent most of his time helping people in the .tv forum.

What happened to you is not right. But, to be true did you really think you could get these names for $10 and get away, because their was a glitch in the system. Its not that they took away a domain you owned for a long time. You took the advantage of the glitch in verisign pricing systems, and they used the 'user agreement' to get it back from you. From a business point of view I think any company would have done this.

equity78 · 06-18-2007, 04:03 PM

Exactly Showbiz because they know things like this can happen so they have an out built in to every registration agreement. Secondly every domainer in the world could be against this Roy, ICANN would have to make them change it and I don't know how ICANN would get it done. Every registrar would argue they need to have precautions in place to do business.

Vimal · 06-18-2007, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by CashCowDomains

Just because someone doesnt see what you see does it make them less smarter than what you are. Does it ?

CarryOn · 06-18-2007, 04:07 PM

But at least you expect competence. This should never have happened. Proper systems should have been in place to prevent these names from becoming available at $10 premiums, especially since they apparently made these mistakes earlier. BTW all of these names were premium names (if you checked the records they showed premium price at $10); not non-premiums as suggested at the beginning of the thread. There seems to be better systems in place to capture good expiring non-premiums which get converted to premiums when re-released.

virtuali · 06-18-2007, 04:07 PM

I understand your frustration... but your missing the point totally... ALL COMPANIES RESERVE THE RIGHT TO ADJUST, MAKE CHANGES, ETC, ETC... TO THERE PRODUCTS. What do you not get about that...?? What your trying to do is capitalize on a clerical error. In any business this can happen and you wouldnt have a leg to stand on.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=340732

E.G. - You have an internet service provider, and they miss billing you for 7 months due to a clerical error. Does this mean you get the 7 months for free..??? NO... you will be billed and have to pay it back because they have a clause that says if this was to happen you would still be responsible..

I know your pissed off because you that you had WON THE LOTTERY by capitalizing on a mistake... but the mistake was done by you. Sorry you cant see that.

RL · 06-18-2007, 04:10 PM

equity78 · 06-18-2007, 04:12 PM

You make an excellent point Vimal it was not like you who own energy.tv and paid for it over 30 days ago had the domain taken away from you because Exxon called Verisign and said they wanted it. That would result IMO in a major problem and exodus for the .tv extension. This was a glitch everyone here knows you cannot reg any .tv for $10 let alone premium domains

RL · 06-18-2007, 04:16 PM

THE WHOLE POINT IS:

IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE. REGISTRATION AGREEMENTS MUST BE MODIFIED TO PROTECT DOMAINERS.

pets.tv is a good example of why. don't you think?
not just my personal incident. there are numerous
others unfortunately.

Thank you.

CCD

virtuali · 06-18-2007, 04:21 PM

Your still missing the point.. I agree that this glitch SHOULD NOT have happened.. BUT it did... and Verisign has an agreement that backs this no matter what.

At the end of the day you thought you reg'd a bunch of premium names at $10 each and you thought WOOO!! what a score.. and now that they are being taken back you are pissed.. and I understand that.. but you are not getting the business side of it.. no matter how much of a shaft it seems.. you dont have anything to back you. Legally.

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domainacrobat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 3,669	wedding.tv - now 10k I saw it finally came down to a premium status! Only a mere 10k! Sweet! count me out!

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06-18-2007, 03:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	That's absolutely bogus you knew it was a glitch you and everyone else know there are no $10 .tv domains and secondly that online.tv had a special deal for renewals and that those $10 were not new registration fees And I have regged domains example inter.tv for $100 Verisign came back said it was not really available there was a glitch. .tv will be fine whether you own them or not And lastly people can debate or moan all they like every REGISTRAR has in their terms of service that they can take back a REGISTRATION in the first 30 days for ANY REASON __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report Last edited by equity78; 06-18-2007 at 03:29 PM.

06-18-2007, 03:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
RL Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,142	.. Last edited by CashCowDomains; 06-21-2007 at 06:27 PM.

wedding.tv - now 10k

I dont know what all the commotion is about?

Listen....

06-18-2007, 03:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	I am wide awake Roy, I went into regging .tv domains fully aware of who owns the Company, and what their terms of service and in the 5 years I have owned .tv domains I have had nothing go against their terms of service. Clueless IMO would be people exploiting a glitch and thinking it was going to hold up when they know there is a Registration Agreement that bails out every glitch for every Registrar for the first 30 days __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

06-18-2007, 03:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
RL Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,142	.. Last edited by CashCowDomains; 06-21-2007 at 06:27 PM.

06-18-2007, 03:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
.jd. Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,077	so in this case, cashcow is just complaining cuase he can't keep what he bought unfairly? You can't live with the motto "some one else's mistake, is my gain"...

06-18-2007, 03:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	They have Roy I regged Inter.tv for $100 they took it but I understood it was a glitch it showed available but it should not have shown available. __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

06-18-2007, 03:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
RL Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,142	lol.

06-18-2007, 03:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	And Roy I worked for more people to get domains back in .tv then anyone I was the one who spent Christmas Eve chatting with fleaking and calling versign contacting people who know the law who told me READ THE REGISTRATION AGREEMENT. Fleaking knows I spent the whole weekend chatting with him about PETS.tv __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

06-18-2007, 03:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
virtuali NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 404	I dont know what all the commotion is about? I have to put in my 2 cents here... I am not sure why everybody is surprised by this. This is standard procedure for any company. All companies have a clause in there agreements that will allow them to make any changes within certain duration of time. Do you really think a multi-million dollar operation like verisign and demand media would not have there basis covered in all directions..????? To me this is just naive. I understand the frustration, but at the end of the day this company owns the rights to these names and can do what they want. End of story.

06-18-2007, 03:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
TheBulldog Your Showbiz Connection Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Spam-It's what's for dinner. Posts: 4,714	Yeah, it sucks, but isn't surprising. Much like if Ford mistakingly printed an add for a $10 Ford Ranger. In a court of law they could very easily prove it was a mistake and not be forced to sell because of truth in advertising laws. __________________ ════════════════►◊ Funny Google Voice Translations

06-18-2007, 03:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
RL Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,142	.. Last edited by CashCowDomains; 06-21-2007 at 06:28 PM.

06-18-2007, 03:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
TheBulldog Your Showbiz Connection Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Spam-It's what's for dinner. Posts: 4,714	CCD, all registrars have this. It isn't anything new. __________________ ════════════════►◊ Funny Google Voice Translations

06-18-2007, 04:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
Vimal NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Albany-NY Posts: 518	Cashcowdomains its unfair of you saying equity78 doesnt stand by other .TV domain owners. He has spent most of his time helping people in the .tv forum. What happened to you is not right. But, to be true did you really think you could get these names for $10 and get away, because their was a glitch in the system. Its not that they took away a domain you owned for a long time. You took the advantage of the glitch in verisign pricing systems, and they used the 'user agreement' to get it back from you. From a business point of view I think any company would have done this. __________________ Map.TV ISP.TV Anal.TV Con.TV EChannel.TV Bazaar.TV Panty/Pantie.TV Hike.TV Rear.TV Premium Domains : IDN.net PM for Price

06-18-2007, 04:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	Exactly Showbiz because they know things like this can happen so they have an out built in to every registration agreement. Secondly every domainer in the world could be against this Roy, ICANN would have to make them change it and I don't know how ICANN would get it done. Every registrar would argue they need to have precautions in place to do business. __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

06-18-2007, 04:07 PM	#20 (permalink)
CarryOn NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: UK Posts: 309	But at least you expect competence. This should never have happened. Proper systems should have been in place to prevent these names from becoming available at $10 premiums, especially since they apparently made these mistakes earlier. BTW all of these names were premium names (if you checked the records they showed premium price at $10); not non-premiums as suggested at the beginning of the thread. There seems to be better systems in place to capture good expiring non-premiums which get converted to premiums when re-released.

06-18-2007, 04:07 PM	#21 (permalink)
virtuali NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 404	Listen.... I understand your frustration... but your missing the point totally... ALL COMPANIES RESERVE THE RIGHT TO ADJUST, MAKE CHANGES, ETC, ETC... TO THERE PRODUCTS. What do you not get about that...?? What your trying to do is capitalize on a clerical error. In any business this can happen and you wouldnt have a leg to stand on. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=340732 E.G. - You have an internet service provider, and they miss billing you for 7 months due to a clerical error. Does this mean you get the 7 months for free..??? NO... you will be billed and have to pay it back because they have a clause that says if this was to happen you would still be responsible.. I know your pissed off because you that you had WON THE LOTTERY by capitalizing on a mistake... but the mistake was done by you. Sorry you cant see that.

06-18-2007, 04:10 PM	#22 (permalink)
RL Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,142	.. Last edited by CashCowDomains; 06-21-2007 at 06:28 PM.

06-18-2007, 04:12 PM	#23 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	You make an excellent point Vimal it was not like you who own energy.tv and paid for it over 30 days ago had the domain taken away from you because Exxon called Verisign and said they wanted it. That would result IMO in a major problem and exodus for the .tv extension. This was a glitch everyone here knows you cannot reg any .tv for $10 let alone premium domains __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

06-18-2007, 04:16 PM	#24 (permalink)
RL Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,142	THE WHOLE POINT IS: IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE. REGISTRATION AGREEMENTS MUST BE MODIFIED TO PROTECT DOMAINERS. pets.tv is a good example of why. don't you think? not just my personal incident. there are numerous others unfortunately. Thank you. CCD

06-18-2007, 04:21 PM	#25 (permalink)
virtuali NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 404	Your still missing the point.. I agree that this glitch SHOULD NOT have happened.. BUT it did... and Verisign has an agreement that backs this no matter what. At the end of the day you thought you reg'd a bunch of premium names at $10 each and you thought WOOO!! what a score.. and now that they are being taken back you are pissed.. and I understand that.. but you are not getting the business side of it.. no matter how much of a shaft it seems.. you dont have anything to back you. Legally.

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