That is correct I have spoken to Frank a few times about .tv he is a .commer its where he makes his millions. The fact he does not think highly of .mobi or .tv would only surpriese someone not familiar with the domain business.
Have no fear--dot tv is gonna be HUGEEEEEEE--IF Demand Media do what they say. Thats our only hope of getting dot tv out the doldrums IMHO. If Demand Media cant save the extension--no one will for a loooong time.
The first stage of mass acceptance is extensive criticism...
Frank Schilling has a lousy argument which makes no sense even from a fundamental business standpoint. His comment about 5% of a market share not being enough is also just plain stupid.
I think I read Apple does not even get 5% of the computer market and look what they have done.
I will even defend .mobi here, as I read there is a .mobi organization that is setting up cell phone standards for web browsing and the possibility of cell phones making .modi a default.
The same for .TV, you just dont know what technology and software innovations will come about, and how they will brand themselves with the respected extension.
Im getting to the point now, that if I see a .com that is pushing video I dont give it the same respect as a .TV.
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I respect Frank and he likes to talk about that you cannot undu the trillion dollars of branding spent on .com in 10 years, How many trillion do you think has been spent on TV over the last 50 years. And no one's opinion overrides the fact that TV is the most recognized Phrase in the entire world irrespective of Language.
I also agree to say that only 5% is not good enough you must unseat .com is the most ridiculous thing I have read in 2007 and did not expect it coming from such a knowledgeable, and successful domainer
But at the end of the day it does not matter what anyones opinion is Build your sites and if you make a great success does it matter WHAT Frank Schiling thinks ? NO. Does it matter what anyone thinks ? NO It only matters that you are able to benefit and prosper how you intended to.
Well I mean we are talking about brands here, and you dont have to be a veteran in domaining to understand this.
The extension is just a part to the name itself, and if it looks good and makes sense then you have a good brand.
If this wasnt true, then people would never bother even buying a good name, or spending money on building a good brand.
If millions of dollars are going to be spent on making the general public associate .TV with rich media, then sooner or later the general public will accept it as so or at least recognize. Yes we always run the risk of people thinking .TV is a cheezy gimick, but when you $500,000 premiums which will probably be discussed on CNBC at some point, that improves brand quality and integrity.
To much has happened, YouTube, Myspace, all these independent companies working on improved video/net/streaming/software, this is not just about the two letters T and V.
I can say I constantly ask ( NON DOMAINERS) have you heard of .tv domain names ? More say yes to .tv then to .us .info .biz .mobi BY a wide margin its not even close most hav enever heard of the other 4, again these are people that do not do business on the net, don't own domains and don't care about domains
Over the past few months I have probably mentioned .TV to 50 people from random demographics, and some have heard of it some do not, but only one has criticized it and said he thinks it is too early. Most people who dont even know about are intrigued and want to know more, but of course that could be because I am wound up about it.
Indeed you dont Larry. Unbelieveable because you have such conviction, that the name of the person behind the argument becomes an irrelevence when you really believe in .TV so solidly.......
I think all of us regulars here are part of a cult..........anything we see hear smell, touch talkabout that has the letters T & V in close contact, we shiver ,......and say to ourselves ........soon....very soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I carry a small notepad and pen with me evrywhere I go. When I see an item or hear a phrase, and a .tv angle pops into my head, I scrawl the name down. Every night I look at my list of ideas and see if any actually make sense, and possibly reg a few. It is not unusual to have 5-6 names on the list. I have compiled that list into a couple hundred names that I would like to reg, and have to choose sparingly from.
The point is, I'm scrawling down _______.tv, not _______.com . I assume the dot com is not available, and it doesn't even bother me.
I do exactly the same thing Rogue, Ive almost crashed my car scribbling into my notepad as an idea hits me when I'm driving
I even have non domaining friends call me with ideas for .tv they can all see the extension for its possibillities.
I read Frank's blog every day and would never say anything negative against him or his blog but I did post a comment to that thread that I did not agree with him on his argument against all non-.com domains.
I said that his argument is flawed because he views the domain world from "up there" meaning that he owns lots of great domains and never sells them. So, the common man has little chance to get a great .com let alone hundreds or thousands of them.
So, we common folk, need to build fortunes and empires where we can in keyword or industry niches or domain extensions.
So, no extension will probably ever challenge the .com on the desktop for regular content BUT, I tend to think there will be more .mobi sites on mobile phones than .com sites and more .tv sites with video than .com sites.
I've been online now for way too long. RJ, I think Equity and some others know about my past. I completely missed the boat on the potential of .com's because I was too busy building up a business to sell. (the hype of the dot-com boom) I've talked with many from this forum and in the domain business in general about other extensions over the years. Although I've got some in my portfolio, I've never seen anything with the potential to compete against .com. I have no doubt that .tv will be the first real contender over the longhaul.
As others have said in various threads, people are comfortable with "tv". It's something that the majority of people alive today grew up with. TV as we knew it in the past is dead. Viewership is down across the board. Kids today spend as much time online as the generations of the past did with tv. The success of youtube and other video sites combined with the increasing bandwidth availability plus the rapid divergence of technologies is, I have no doubt, going to result in the internet and tv being one and the same.
I was talking to a friend earlier today about my own tv viewing habits. Other than American Idol, I don't watch anything on live tv these days. I don't even record things. I either use video on demand via the tv or get it online or dvd. I'm heading towards 40 this year *sigh*, so I'm not exactly from the young generation and this is what I do. Coincidentally the reason for this conversation is that my friend just cancelled her cable service because she didn't watch tv enough. She also turns to online to watch things when she wants.
By the way, I'm not discounting the potential of .mobi. But I think that the opportunities are going to be a lot more limiting than for .tv.
BTW, in regards to my little notepad and scrawling down names, as far as online goes, wikipedia is a terrific idea blaster, just wandering around that site, I find all sorts of terms and ideas. If you ever need a creativity boost, start wandering at that site, you never know where you will end up.
