Should Demand Media Give The Dot Tv Forum An Early Pick?
Do you think Demand Media should give the members of this forum a crack at one premium before launch? Perhaphs capped at under $10000 or even under $1000?
No and I say that as founder of this forum, why should someone because of belonging to a forum get preferential treatment. And secondly just because your a member? Many "members" have contributed very little here
Posting appraisals on your own domains is not a contribution
I personally feel all of the recent posts concerning Demand Media are a bit childish. Demand Media is a business. Businesses are out to make money. They made no promises to the dot tv forum or any individuals. If a third party negotiates for the purchase of a domain off the record, then that is business. I suggest some people open their eyes wide!
Certainly all are not childish SF but you are entitled to your opinion just like the other 6.5 billion people on the planet.
Their handling of .tv has not been good and I personally agree with you about Business but If I negotiated the sale of xxxxxx.tv with you and Millers and SKG asked me I would say SF and I did a private deal
That is their business policy, which we can all dispute or discuss. However, several posts regarding the matter and none of them honing in on the heart of the issue is a bit over the top!
Its not over the top when there is money involved.
What makes you think there are not other people who are conducting legitmate business, and that they should not be entitled to get access to a premium name? Especially if thousands have been spent on domain names, and the people who have been passionate about .TV want to get a shot at a name, they fill out a form, then the name gets sold without any word.
I just posted in the other thread that I think they will just put a high annual renewal fee on the most requested names. Maybe then a reverse auction where the price drops till it's registered.
SF, In case you are including me in this group.......In which way did I not hone in to the heart of the issue???? I will say this one more time.
FIDDLE MEDIA could turn around tomorrow and say - u know what, we have taken a corporate decision to keep all our premiums for those with a $250,000 budget or higher to develop...........I would be gutted, but not angry....because thats called being upfront and honest...
Its the BS being fed to us by Q DALY and the automated responses from the premium claim forms that annoy the hell out of me. Dont make a fool out of me or waste my time.......thats called being manipulative, derisitory and dishonest.......BIG DIFFERENCE
It is the sense of entitlement that the members of our forum evince which surprises me.
Yes, enom.tv states clearly for a premium name:
We have taken thousands of premium names off the market for a short time to ensure equal opportunity for everyone interested in registering this premium name.
Yet, you and others have evidence this did not happen. I understand why you feel upset and angry that you did not get a fair shot. However, this is a business that does not have a contract or agreement with you or other namepros members. It is in the business of maximizing shareholder value. If in the business judgment of the decision makers when they sold any of those premium names in private party transactions they were maximizing shareholder value, then they were doing their jobs.
Does this means it was right in light of the language they used in their contact forms? No.
Does this means they are a company that will do what is in your best interests? No.
Should we expect more of this in the future? Yes.
You have every right to be upset, annoyed, pissed off, etc., but none of us were entitled to a fair shot at any of the premium names.
If you are that upset, then write multiple letters, compose emails, etc, and publish their contents here so we can duplicate them.
Harness your anger to get the email addresses of the higher ups at Demand Media and Enom and blast them. If you get any attention it will come from more action than posting in any forum, which is just one step required to wake up a corporation to your plight.
I cannot see where you and I DISAGREE...........although u think I do..I dont..........my sense of entitlement is not for the right to a premium, its for the right not to be lied to or appear like I am being lied to and for the right not to have wasted my time filling out forms that I may well not have filled out, had I known that deals were going on privately at the same time.........
As for channeling that anger with emails to Demand Media.........obviously - u have not written too many yourself......by the time a response would arrive , all premiums would be long gone.....
First, I would always assume private deals are possible unless told otherwise. This is a capitalist market.
Second, I have written corporations and I know how quickly you can get a response. Why its so obvious that I have not written too many myself is misplaced assumption on your part. I never suggested that your attempts to communicate with DM would happen within a time frame that is acceptable to you, but you will never truly know unless you try. If you set out with the mindset that you will fail, then you will fail.
There is a reason why go-getters succeed more often than non-go-getters. The go-getters are willing to take a shot at opportunity in spite of the odds against them. I know you are a go-getter. Why you hold a firm belief that you cannot get DM to answer your communication in a reasonable time is not quite clear from what you have posted here. Unless you know something we do not, then what would be lost in giving it a shot especially if you want some particular action taken.
This discussion ended last night, I no longer have the energy to debate this with you or anyone else any more.....the fact that you recognise that I am a go getter is heartwarming considering we are business partners!!
The good news is that it seems from the turmoil created by QDALYS response, DM has decided that a damage limitation excercise was necessary and so we have a guest from DM making an appearence, whilst with very little to say, is perhaps the best thing he can do right now, given that "ALL will become clear shortly....."
Should Demand Media Give The Dot Tv Forum An Early Pick?
Just playing devils advocate here and someone please correct me if i am wrong, but didn't we all have an early pick before Demandmedia took over?
We could all have gone to www.tv last year and regged any premium with a 70% discount but the fact is we chose not to, All of us, myself included, didn't choose to do that until Demand media took over and created a buzz about the extension.
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Last edited by stoneroses : 04-07-2007 at 12:57 AM.
I take your point and i was one of those who did reg a premium back in the day, however,what i am trying to say to the op is that loans,games,business etc were all available to reg back then with 70% discount, we chose not to reg them,so there is no way we can say "give us first pick" when they are rereleased.
I realise people new to this didn't have the chance then,but quite frankly thats life, i wasn't around during the dot com boom and missed out,but that doesn't mean i can say "i want first pick of any dot com names".
Those of you with premiums had the courage,foresight and cash and made a decision which i believe will definately pay dividends in the not so distant future.
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