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Old 04-05-2007, 07:04 PM   · #1
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Demand Media Credibility Tumbles To New Lows

If I sat back for a couple of hours and thought out a more sleazy response to allegations of corruption within my company, I do not think I could have done as good a job as Quin Daly has done for Demand Media.

No wonder that the forum leader has asked that given such an awful response, he would rather she not post anymore on this forum. Crap stinks and it defiles everyone and everything it touches - and the crap she wrote was of an industrial grade........

Here is what I read into what she wrote - " We are continuing to chuckle as we hand out BS to the general public with standardised formulated crap.......at the same time, anyone with deep enough pockets to be suckered into outragous early bird trumped up prices can feel free to see how much they are really prepared to bend over............

This company is now in charge of Dot TV...........if this company had already gone public, I would have dumped every last stock Iowned in it - corruption is akin to moral cancer..eventually it will take down the company in one way or another and Demand Media has it in spades


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Old 04-05-2007, 07:24 PM   · #2
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What post are you referring to?
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Old 04-05-2007, 07:29 PM   · #3
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Im starting to get real angry here.

There is a GEO.TV I want and if someone gets it without me even getting a chance from my filling out the form a few months back, I am going to be pissed off.

I am resubmitting my info again on the form right now.
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Old 04-05-2007, 07:30 PM   · #4
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Originally Posted by rsequin
What post are you referring to?



The one in which you asked about why they are holding onto .TV drops....
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Right but Larry filling out the form was not guaranteeing you got the domain, it was just supposed to mean you got an email when all premiums were available......... although quinns explanation is ambiguous
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Old 04-05-2007, 07:48 PM   · #6
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Originally Posted by equity78
Right but Larry filling out the form was not guaranteeing you got the domain, it was just supposed to mean you got an email when all premiums were available......... although quinns explanation is ambiguous




So what does that mean?

When the premiums are available they go to auction? Or they are just sitting there waiting to be regged by first come first serve?

I thought filling out the form means you are putting your name in to be part of the bid.

My point is, I am interested in bidding, but im not even getting a shot to bid.
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Old 04-05-2007, 07:55 PM   · #7
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There is no auction, basically Demand Media halted premiums because they said they needed to bild awhole new system obviously domains at different prices requires a different interface. I am not a techie but someone told me that is a viable excuse OK
We know here they did it to monitor traffic, watch what people type in to see if a domain is available.

The form was there as a way to not just have a blank page or unavailable sign, filling it out did not mean oh you are one of 150 people who filled out a form for Movies.tv we will now have an auction. I mean there is no transparency in that anyway, unless everyone sees who filled out the form not just Demand Media
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:02 PM   · #8
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I have been the Chief Technology Officer of several internet companies.

That is the biggest BS execuse I've ever heard.

One field in the database would handle that.

We have a dynamic pricing model for our leads. One field. Thats it.

One field. As for screens, either their architecture is poorly designed (ie not data driven) or they have major technology challenges and I wouldn't trust their tools.

Either Demand Media is a) spinning or b) has a single programmer on staff who learned to program from the Programming for Dummies books.
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:03 PM   · #9
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thank you Local I did not know that so like we thought BS
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:06 PM   · #10
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Of course they are spinning. For goodness sake's.

The part that does surprise me is that they aren't being clearer about what their model is.

They could have started generating real excitement the way .mobi has done in their auctions. (I am not saying that auctions is the right strategy, but whatever their strategy IS going to be, clearer communication will only help them).
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:09 PM   · #11
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Originally Posted by equity78
The form was there as a way to not just have a blank page or unavailable sign, filling it out did not mean oh you are one of 150 people who filled out a form for Movies.tv we will now have an auction. I mean there is no transparency in that anyway, unless everyone sees who filled out the form not just Demand Media




Thats what it should mean. Everyone who was interested in a premium should get a shot at what they filled out for.

Who's side are you on anyways?
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:11 PM   · #12
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I am not on the side of AUCTIONS, I do not believe premiums should have been taken off the market. I believe it should be Premiums available say for example 5/1/07 and who ever gets it gets it THAT'S WHOSE SIDE

Auctions someone like Elequa who is a personal friend and I have discussed this with, could send a blanket email Interested in 500 to top 1000 and out bid everyone on here combined in an auction if need be but I doubt he would. Auctions are just a money grab and what is the renewal? What about premium holders already do they get $25 renewals?
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So you are saying, for example at 12:00 midnight May 1st 2007 the names should be released and made available for whomever could get there first?

Is this what they are planning?
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And you say that's what it should mean, no one ever said that's what it means, not Verisign who still owns DOT TV corp, not ENOM not Demand Media

With all this money around everyone clamoring to put out big $$$$$ for .tvs hopefully next auction a domain like Daytona.tv can do better than $950

NO I am not saying that will happen Larry I don't work for ENOM. You asked what side I was on I am on the side of first to register the domain
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:20 PM   · #15
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Most likely, it is going to be an auction. What if 30 people wanted Dallas.tv. You really think they are going to leave it to the fastest finger. They will have a 7 day auction and let the folks battle it out with the starting bid the same price they would have released it if only 1 was interested.

They can't lose with that approach.

Prepare to auction it out.

Dayton.tv also went at auction for $700 (on here and SEDO)
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Originally Posted by equity78
And you say that's what it should mean, no one ever said that's what it means, not Verisign who still owns DOT TV corp, not ENOM not Demand Media

With all this money around everyone clamoring to put out big $$$$$ for .tvs hopefully next auction a domain like Daytona.tv can do better than $950




I would if I cared for Daytona but I dont.

I would imagine once mass marketing of Demand begins those names will go up in price, but right now it is to early.

Anyways, I know what is really going on and it stinks but oh well, at least I got a few good ones...
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:30 PM   · #17
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I think the auction is the right route for Demand Media and for us .tv holders. I would rather have the names go to people with big bucks with actual development plans then a bunch of domainers (no offense) who are just going to park it. I have .tv names with strong development plans. But let's be realistic equity, if those names were on a first reg basis- most of the owners would have no development plan but would hold out for a high resell and then we ALL would suffer given that scenerio.
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Local is it goes to auction then that changed in the last month because prior that a person I know who met with Demand Media management not quinn said auctions were not on the table
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Interesting......That seems like a win/win scenario for everyone including Demand Media. (auctions)

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Why is no one talking about the premium pricing model?

The more people who fill out the interest form the higher the annual renewal fee will be I say.

So no auction just a $5000 a year price. Want it?

First come first served.

Maybe a reverse auction where the annual renewal price drops until the domain is registered.

You heard it here first.
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We are all waiting for the premium .TV domains to be released for sale in the near future. I noticed a few have registered before the release and auction, are Enom and Demand Media keeping these for themselves or are they pre releasing to select buyers?
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Thank you for your interest.

All interested buyers should visit Enom.tv. Once there enter into the search box the premium name you are interested in. A form will pop up for you to enter your information.

Demand Media will be making them available before the end of the month. -1
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s-l-o-w, auction sucks for 98% of us, because big players would now dominate the game, instead of us. Regging smart would get infinitely harder. And there's absolutely no proof that up front bucks will result in automatic development, speculation exists at several tiers.

What IU took from the comments in the other post was that DM would consider any offer made from the forms. I imagine they would use the information to generate some background checks for financial depth, etc. before cherry picking who to respond to. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Landmark Communications owns

Atlanta.tv, Seattle.tv, Buffalo.tv, LittleRock.tv, Syracuse.tv, Richmond.tv, Baltimore.tv, and Tampa.tv....

They have held them for more than 12 months. So far, not development other than HamptonRoads.tv

MLB appears to own KansasCity.tv, Austin.tv, and a couple more.

No development.

So yes, bigger players does not equal development
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s-l-o-w, auction sucks for 98% of us, because big players would now dominate the game, instead of us. Regging smart would get infinitely harder. And there's absolutely no proof that up front bucks will result in automatic development, speculation exists at several tiers.

What IU took from the comments in the other post was that DM would consider any offer made from the forms. I imagine they would use the information to generate some background checks for financial depth, etc. before cherry picking who to respond to. Maybe I'm wrong.



This is where I must disagree. Enough names were not issued as premium that enough of "us" hold claim to them. It is simply beyond logic to think that an End User would pay End User price or a .tv domain giant (Net Turner) to purchase .tv premiums without any plans; particulary for an extension where traffic would be there though minimal to cover such prices less developed. I think for .tv to take off, we need big boy dollars like bud.tv and mlb.tv etc. The aftermarket is not going to die because of this. It will only make it stronger.

Some of the best names are already in the hand of domainers. But the added exposurer for the entire extension will and should and will be catapulted by the major players who can truly spread the news to the masses.
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