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Old 04-05-2007, 05:52 AM   · #1
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Honest Appraisals Please On My Foreign Portfolio

Have not asked our board experts here for an appraisal in a long time, so I will ask for one now on a group of foreign names....so we need to take into account not only the strength of the keyword but also the language its in!!!

All opinions welcome and appreciated.

FRENCH - MODELS.TV, BOXING.TV, JEWELLARY.TV TODAY.TV DOGS.TV
SPANISH - SKI.TV TATTOO.TV EMERGENCY.TV CHEF.TV
GERMAN - ALCOHOL.TV EIGHT.TV
ITALIAN - TRAFFIC.TV


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Old 04-05-2007, 06:36 AM   · #2
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THose don't look foreign....
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Old 04-05-2007, 06:42 AM   · #3
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Originally Posted by showbiz2
THose don't look foreign....



Yes, I've seen some in Miller's sig,
but it would help if you could post the real foreign terms you own, Millers

For the french you own, I'm quite sure the traffic si very low...
Based on my experience with french words in other tlds, It seems that the french-speaking people are not so much "type-in" oriented. That's why I didn't invested in french .TVs (and my mother language is French) but I could be wrong ;o)

Argos's point of view would be interesting...

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Old 04-05-2007, 07:56 AM   · #4
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For my french minds... (.tv only for video content..)
and i think the french market is "long"..too long..lol..

Chef.tv **** ( very good ,and more if developped)
ski.tv ** (name is good but i think not easy to develop for $$$ )

but i'm not a pro...
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:48 AM   · #5
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Originally Posted by DreamCatcher
Yes, I've seen some in Miller's sig,
but it would help if you could post the real foreign terms you own, Millers




No problem - thanks.

FRENCH - aujourdhui (today) chiens (dogs) bijouterie (jewellry) boxe (boxing) modeles ( models)
SPANISH - esqui (ski) cocinero (chef) emergencia (emergency) tatuaje (tattoo)
German - acht (eight) alkohol (alcohol)
Italian - traffico (traffic)
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:54 AM   · #6
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traffico.tv worths zero for me, no italian would waste money on it, sorry.
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:21 AM   · #7
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Originally Posted by italiandragon
traffico.tv worths zero for me, no italian would waste money on it, sorry.



Cause of the extention or the name??

And could you explain why having a site relating to daily traffic news is worth zero??
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:43 AM   · #8
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aujourdhui.tv -> sounds good, but correct is aujourd'hui, which shows how complex french is... How would the french people type in this kind of address?
But a good point is that .info and .biz are held by a parisian newspaper...

chiens.tv -> sorry, no idea about this...

bijouterie.tv -> this could be a homeshopping channel dedicated to... hum... bijoux (jewels)

boxe.tv -> "sport"+.tv is always nice IMHO, but so as I told you before, I don't think that french speaking people type in "naturally" a term + an extension (even a .com) so much as english or german speaking people...
They only go on well established websites and most of french people don't have a good opinion of domaining, and parked pages where in other countries it is well tolerated. The best example to show you the french point of view regarding the domaining, is the restrictions to reg a .fr...

modeles.tv -> no idea... ah yes, just one, to be correct, you will also need the IDN version: modèles.tv... but this is another story

acht.tv -> I watch frequently german television, but there's no mention of a channel called acht or a 8th channel, so sorry, I don't really see a value in this name, but I could be wrong: I think I remember that you get nice traffic and clicks

alkohol.tv -> I like it... it is good that all other main tlds are taken but unfortunately, no one is developped.
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:10 AM   · #9
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Originally Posted by DreamCatcher
aujourdhui.tv -> sounds good, but correct is aujourd'hui, which shows how complex french is... How would the french people type in this kind of address?
But a good point is that .info and .biz are held by a parisian newspaper...

chiens.tv -> sorry, no idea about this...

bijouterie.tv -> this could be a homeshopping channel dedicated to... hum... bijoux (jewels)

boxe.tv -> "sport"+.tv is always nice IMHO, but so as I told you before, I don't think that french speaking people type in "naturally" a term + an extension (even a .com) so much as english or german speaking people...
They only go on well established websites and most of french people don't have a good opinion of domaining, and parked pages where in other countries it is well tolerated. The best example to show you the french point of view regarding the domaining, is the restrictions to reg a .fr...

modeles.tv -> no idea... ah yes, just one, to be correct, you will also need the IDN version: modèles.tv... but this is another story

acht.tv -> I watch frequently german television, but there's no mention of a channel called acht or a 8th channel, so sorry, I don't really see a value in this name, but I could be wrong: I think I remember that you get nice traffic and clicks

alkohol.tv -> I like it... it is good that all other main tlds are taken but unfortunately, no one is developped.



Dreamcatcher,

Much appreciated for your detailed feedback.........llooks like Argos needs to become an ambassador for .TV in France!!!!

Thanks once again

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Originally Posted by SKG
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I fully agree.
They are taken in all gTLDS, even .mobi and .eu and..... .fr... just a sight.....

My preference : Boxe, Bijouterie, Chiens, Aujourdhui, Modeles.

http://inventory.fr.overture.com/d/...ory/suggestion/
See result for Chien(s) or Boxe..... keep in mind that French type in are not at the level of English type in, matter of scale.

.fr has no longer restrictions (since 20 June 06), any adult with a valid address in France can register a .fr.

As for IDN and French type in, remember that about 70% of Internet is English speaking, France is the 7th internet language. Most French sites do not use IDNs as their main address, the reason is obvious. Even names like Crédit.fr or Prêt.fr (loan) are in fact Credit.fr and Pret.fr

As for the growing use of .tv in France, & French speaking countries, I guess we aren't behind other countries, best and most popular examples are www.WAT.tv www.VODEO.tv www.JET.tv .... other examples of .tv sites can be seen at
http://www.google.com/search?hl=fr&...cher&lr=lang_fr

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Originally Posted by MILLERSCROSSING
Cause of the extention or the name??

And could you explain why having a site relating to daily traffic news is worth zero??




extension, totally unknown to Italians.

But it`s just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Argos
.fr has no longer restrictions (since 20 June 06), any adult with a valid address in France can register a .fr.


You're right but in comparison to .be or .es, isn't the need of a valid address in France a kind of restriction?
O.K., you can reg them... but not me

Originally Posted by Argos
As for IDN and French type in, remember that about 70% of Internet is English speaking, France is the 7th internet language. Most French sites do not use IDNs as their main address, the reason is obvious. Even names like Crédit.fr or Prêt.fr (loan) are in fact Credit.fr and Pret.fr


Absolutely! But in my case, I regged last year the normal version of a french word, and his IDN, because there was this doubt with the release of IE7... But I don't think I would do it again (waste of money?)

Originally Posted by Argos
As for the growing use of .tv in France, & French speaking countries, I guess we aren't behind other countries, best and most popular examples are www.WAT.tv www.VODEO.tv www.JET.tv .... other examples of .tv sites can be seen at
http://www.google.com/search?hl=fr&...cher&lr=lang_fr

My 2cents.


www.WAT.tv www.VODEO.tv www.JET.tv
Yes, great sites and use of .tv...
and I must admit this is impressive: The best parts of Wat.TV are broadcasted on a real TV Channel (Watcast on TF1)!

Originally Posted by italiandragon
extension, totally unknown to Italians.

But it`s just my opinion.



I have mediacenter.tv which gets +/- 35 hits per month and half of it from Italy. It was maybe an italian developed website before...
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Originally Posted by italiandragon
extension, totally unknown to Italians.

But it`s just my opinion.



Thats fine, I was asking for opinions!!

I do get about 50 hits a day on IT.TV, of which about 36% on average come from Italy...........maybe a name like IT.TV is such a relevant name to Italy that it gets daily hits......but I agree, if I was to compare it to DE.TV, which I co-own, it gets between 200/400 hits a day, most of which are coming from Germany, so there is this huge difference.......

WHich is why I only bought one name i Italian, and having been to Italy on holiday numerous times, the only thing I could remember that was negative there was the horrible traffic situation whereever we went.......so I know the subject matter will be ok once it does take off!!!

Originally Posted by Argos
I fully agree.
They are taken in all gTLDS, even .mobi and .eu and..... .fr... just a sight.....

My preference : Boxe, Bijouterie, Chiens, Aujourdhui, Modeles.

As for the growing use of .tv in France, & French speaking countries, I guess we aren't behind other countries, best and most popular examples are www.WAT.tv www.VODEO.tv www.JET.tv .... other examples of .tv sites can be seen at
http://www.google.com/search?hl=fr&...cher&lr=lang_fr

My 2cents.



Thanks Argos for your analysis.........much appreciated

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Thanks Sanch

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Originally Posted by italiandragon
extension, totally unknown to Italians.

But it`s just my opinion.



ITALIANDRAGON,

Extention totally unknown to Italians...............have a look in the DOT TV sightings.....Argos has just added GOSSIP.TV - an Italian gossip channel.....

I guess word has finally got around to Italy!!
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Interesting, when I see "IT.TV" I think of techie stuff, not Italy, had not crossed my mind!
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Interesting, when I see "IT.TV" I think of techie stuff, not Italy, had not crossed my mind!




Actually Rogue,

I was referring to TRAFFICO.TV, a recent reg of mine.......but IT.TV does get a major amount of hits from Italy
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