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Old 03-05-2007, 09:12 AM   · #1
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What are premium renewal fees for TV names

There is a .TV name at tdnam that in the description says that the renewal fee is $2500 since it is a premium name. Huh?

Anyone understand why this is, and how one would know on any TV name before buying it?


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Old 03-05-2007, 09:23 AM   · #2
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if You would buy directly from enom.tv (demand media- the owner of TV registry) and it would be an premium name than You will pay a yearly fee - from 100 to 450 000 usd (depends on the name , Business.TV is the most expensive example)
in fact ,premium names You can buy just here ,on other registry it will show You as being registered.(Premium can not be buyed now, becose enom will release them after 2Q - they are evaluating them)

in case it is not premium You pay 25 usd -50 depends on registry

hope it helps

if You buy from holders than You sould ask if it is premium and how high is the fee,not to be surprised after the sale

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Old 03-05-2007, 09:23 AM   · #3
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Yes, certain .tv domains have premium renewal fees. I believe .tv's website outlines all of the fees on the domain.

The original idea behind the premium fee is that generic terms should cost more to renew because they will bring more value to the consumer (not to mention it means more money for the registry).
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Old 03-05-2007, 09:46 AM   · #4
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So, if I purchase this name and transfer it to Godaddy, would I have to pay the high fee? Godaddy says no, it would be a normal fee. From what you guys are saying, it sounds like it would be the premium fee.
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Old 03-05-2007, 09:52 AM   · #5
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I've never had a premium .tv domain before. I don't know many people that actually have them--just because the domain renewal fee usually outweighs the potential benefit of the domain. I'm not positive, but you may need to go through www.tv to get your premium domain. If the .tv is at another registrar, I would guess the premium renewal fee may not apply. You may also want to try posting in the .tv area of the forum. (I'm no expert in .tv domains compared to others here at NP)

Try reading up here www.tv for more info on premium domians. I can't seem to find the link to the portion of their site explaining about .tv premium domains (which I last checked about a year ago, so it could be down now). Maybe you will have better luck than me.

EDIT: I just did a Google search and found this from godomains.com.au
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Note: some .tv domains are classed by the .tv registry as "premium" names. This generally includes dictionary words and generic terms. We will notify you prior to registration if your domain is classed as a "premium" name and let you know the applicable price set by the registry. You will then have the option to pay the premium rate or to cancel the order if you prefer.



It, therefore, appears www.tv is the only registrar you can go through to get the premium .tv domain names. Are you sure the domain up for auction is regged at GD? If so, it may not have a premium renewal fee.

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Old 03-05-2007, 11:21 AM   · #6
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IF it can be held at godaddy then there is no premium renewal fee. Premiums can only be regged, renewed and held at ENOM.tv who took over running the retail side for Verisign (www.tv)
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:43 AM   · #7
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What a racket! I heard some fees can go up to a million a year.
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Originally Posted by slobizman
What a racket! I heard some fees can go up to a million a year.


Note, there are very few people that are actualy paying for the premium fees. I believe the fees range from $500 up.
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Well its not a racket, it is how they tiered their domain prices, for many reasons. Nothing will go up to $1 million. News and Business were priced at $1million a year under www.tv it looks like they will be priced at $450,000 when premiums can be renewed again. Bottom line for those two names verisign did not want a "domainer" coming in and regging those names for ppc or to flip, they want a serious End User to develop it. Concert.tv was a $10,000 a year premium I now see them advertising on Comcast under the music section all the time. A domainer would have parked it probably. This is a development ext, Pricing was meant to keep people from regging say 500 LLL.tv and flipping them the way .info or .biz or .mobi are. Elequa told me a long time ago if it were for regualr pricing he would have regged every LLL and LL .tv So for people coming to .tv later in the game they should be glad about premium pricing becuase if not every great premium name would have been gone by 2002.

Most Premiums fall in the $500 a year category.
LLL.tv $500 for most some will be $900
LL.tv $900 to $9500
Premium Generics like Games, Movies, Surfing, Business, Style will range from $2500 to $450,000

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Note, there are very few people that are actualy paying for the premium fees. I believe the fees range from $500 up.


Everyone who is regging premium domains is paying premium fess except those who were there back in 2000 at the beginning they lucked out with $50 renewal fees
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So, let's say I'm looking at a .TV name at auction, or perhaps from a private seller. Of course I can ask the seller, but what are the steps I should follow to verify the price of the name renewal? What registrar/s is a give-away that it might be a premium name? How then do I determine the renewal price?

All this came up because I was looking at Bible.TV on a tdnam auction yesterday. Seemed like a bargain at $1750. But,in the description, the seller was honest enough to say that it has a $2500/year renewal fee. The registrar is listed as "Demand Media" but I think that is enom. Not sure.

So, what specific steps do I follow? Id like to explain this to readers of my DomainRookie.com blog.
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Originally Posted by slobizman
So, let's say I'm looking at a .TV name at auction, or perhaps from a private seller. Of course I can ask the seller, but what are the steps I should follow to verify the price of the name renewal? What registrar/s is a give-away that it might be a premium name? How then do I determine the renewal price?

All this came up because I was looking at Bible.TV on a tdnam auction yesterday. Seemed like a bargain at $1750. But,in the description, the seller was honest enough to say that it has a $2500/year renewal fee. The registrar is listed as "Demand Media" but I think that is enom. Not sure.

So, what specific steps do I follow? Id like to explain this to readers of my DomainRookie.com blog.



Let me try to answer, in your above situation the seller has indeed been honest and stated the yearly renewal fees, you could, if the seller was willing to comply ask to see the conformation email they were sent when purchasing Bible.TV, this would let you see what price was paid,how long it is regged for and if they received any discount from www.tv ( now enom).
When the registry was www.tv they offered up to 70% discount on some premium regges, example- dog.tv $1000 per year you paid $300 after the 70% discount
Enom have since revamped the prices for example one of my regges was $1000 per year,i got 70% discount so i paid $300, i took this for 2 years,however enom have now put it at $500 per year reg fee,it may be worth asking him if the $2500 fee was the fee he paid per year,or if it is the fee that enom are now charging for the domain per year.
Once you are happy with what the yearly reg fee is,then it is entirely at your discretion whether you buy the domain or not, but at least you then have the facts to which to base your decision on.
Hope this helps, if i have missed anything or have got anything wrong i am sure one of the other members will advise you.

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Let me try to answer, in your above situation the seller has indeed been honest and stated the yearly renewal fees, you could, if the seller was willing to comply ask to see the conformation email they were sent when purchasing Bible.TV, this would let you see what price was paid,how long it is regged for and if they received any discount from www.tv ( now enom).
When the registry was www.tv they offered up to 70% discount on some premium regges, example- dog.tv $1000 per year you paid $300 after the 70% discount
Enom have since revamped the prices for example one of my regges was $1000 per year,i got 70% discount so i paid $300, i took this for 2 years,however enom have now put it at $500 per year reg fee,it may be worth asking him if the $2500 fee was the fee he paid per year,or if it is the fee that enom are now charging for the domain per year.
Once you are happy with what the yearly reg fee is,then it is entirely at your discretion whether you buy the domain or not, but at least you then have the facts to which to base your decision on.
Hope this helps, if i have missed anything or have got anything wrong i am sure one of the other members will advise you.

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Thanks, but I still have the same questions:

1) what registrar on the Whois record tells me that it could be a premium price? For example, alternatively, if I see it's Godaddy, I know it's NOT a premium price.

2) How can I verify the renewal price without relying on the user? Is there a site that displays the pricing? If not, I suppose the only thing to do would be to contact the registrar and ask.

(not really interested in Bible.tv, just an example)
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ENOM if it is not held at ENOM( DEMAND MEDIA) then it is not a PREMIUM

YOU CANNOT FIND THE RENEWAL PRICE ANYWHERE ONLY THE REGISTRANT KNOWS
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ENOM if it is not held at ENOM( DEMAND MEDIA) then it is not a PREMIUM

YOU CANNOT FIND THE RENEWAL PRICE ANYWHERE ONLY THE REGISTRANT KNOWS


Okay, that answers it. Thanks.

Funny how they select what is premium. I just bought Degree.TV at an auction at Afternic and it is reg'd at Godaddy for regular fees. I know the term is not gigantic, but it is 60K and with online schools and degrees moving forward at a rapid pace, I'd figure it would at least be a small premium.

Any ideas as to how many premium TV names there are out there?

You know, it seems like finding good TV names like Degree.TV, for example, that have regular renewal rates, might be a good investment since the really top names are so expensive to renew.
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Good reg

There are thousands of domains classified as premium

There is no logic to what they classified as premium over non premium
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