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Old 06-21-2006, 02:33 PM   · #1
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Major IPTV players?

Besides Narrowstep, who I spoke to today, who are the other major players offering a platform for Internet program/Broadcasting?

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Originally Posted by WineGuy
Besides Narrowstep, who I spoke to today, who are the other major players offering a platform for Internet program/Broadcasting?

TIA

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Originally Posted by WineGuy
Besides Narrowstep, who I spoke to today, who are the other major players offering a platform for Internet program/Broadcasting?

TIA

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Hey WineGuy,

For the US market it is largely still in initial rollout phase, with FiOS (under Verizon) and Project Lightspeed (AT&T, formaly SBC) as the major services and players. They are focusing on specific markets for their offering (and trials). They are very ambitious in their subscriber/reach forcasting, though, so if it's not at your doorstep now, expect it within the year. The big marketing push is anticipated mid 2007. In addition, many local telecoms are serving iPTV in their localized areas - make some calls, you could be one of the lucky ones.

I'm patiently waiting in my area, and I see AT&T deploying Lightspeed in what feels to be everywhere except my town, lol - and I'm the biggest fan!

On a flip-note, if you can't wait at all and want the general experience, you can subscribe remotely and get on a plan. International or domestic, I believe. Subscribe, purchase a specific set-top box (STB), and as long as you have adequate bandwidth, voila.

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Hey WineGuy,

For the US market it is largely still in initial rollout phase, with FiOS (under Verizon) and Project Lightspeed (AT&T, formaly SBC) as the major services and players. They are focusing on specific markets for their offering (and trials). They are very ambitious in their subscriber/reach forcasting, though, so if it's not at your doorstep now, expect it within the year. The big marketing push is anticipated mid 2007. In addition, many local telecoms are serving iPTV in their localized areas - make some calls, you could be one of the lucky ones.

I'm patiently waiting in my area, and I see AT&T deploying Lightspeed in what feels to be everywhere except my town, lol - and I'm the biggest fan!

On a flip-note, if you can't wait at all and want the general experience, you can subscribe remotely and get on a plan. International or domestic, I believe. Subscribe, purchase a specific set-top box (STB), and as long as you have adequate bandwidth, voila.

Thanks for the thread.



noetic...very accurate explanation, but I think WineGuy might be asking about who has "infrastructure" to allow him stream from his website...
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noetic...very accurate explanation, but I think WineGuy might be asking about who has "infrastructure" to allow him stream from his website...



You are so right, antonis12, lol, I need to read the question more thoroughly...

I'll follow this thread as I am also curious to the infrastructure reqs of broadcasting iPTV on a "non-controlled content provider" level. For s/w, I've heard good things coming from Brightcove, as well as Dave.tv -- look forward to the readings.

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WINE I have been meaning to call them as I keep posting all their clients here and doing research. Were they too expensive for a small domain developer ?
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Old 06-22-2006, 07:29 AM   · #8
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Depends on what you plan to do.

Their platform is completely proprietary and while very flexible and really functions as a television station would, I feel as if they are seeing that they could be "teched" out of the market in a quick way. What I mean is they have an upfront cost of $15,000 to $20,000 for set up, training and support for a year plus an encoder delivered to you to convert to their format. After that there is a $4100 "liscencing fee" each month plus bandwidth. With these two costs the second being ongoing they will have locked in income from 80 to 100 clients for the foreseeable future, who will jump ship after making such an expenditure?

Also, if you use their backend PayGate for e-com transactions they "could" take up to an additional 10% to accept payments through their site, they say you can use their API to use your own merchant account but were less than enthused about that. If you were to use them to collect say subscription fees of say $20 to $50 I wouldn't care but for my model of selling physically delivered product, wine for instance at $200 per case, that is way too high.

All in all it is a cool platform but for $65,000 paid to them in the first 12 months what could I have programmed to my own specs? I haven't taken them off the list as their postive points are delivery of high quality video on multiple platforms including cable head end. Good looking interface, geo-targetting and program scheduling.They hold out www.cycling.tv as a success story, apparently just three guys in Denmark? run it very profitably.

I am interested in speaking to someone at BrightCove if anyone has a contact. I sent the appropriate e-mails a few months ago to no avail, will try again.

Also as a side note, I personally will be moving forward with my development plans as quickly as I can, but for the rest of the people here thinking about development, I would definetley start taking action ASAP. I feel the field is going to get very crowded very quickly to the point were differentiation in the eyes of potential investors or advertisers/sponsors will be difficult unless you own a premiere domain.

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Old 06-22-2006, 07:36 AM   · #9
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crap...that's expensive. I was thinking that they would be good for financechannel but at that sort of money I could get a custom build.
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Old 06-22-2006, 11:59 AM   · #10
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Excellent post and info - Thank you WineGuy!
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I feel as if they are seeing that they could be "teched" out of the market in a quick way.

Totally agree. A little success in any indusrty breds competition to build a better mouse trap, and with those costs - some one will pretty quick.

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who will jump ship after making such an expenditure?

Hard to make a jump after that kind of investment and establishment for any company. However, numbers can be crunched in many ways and if someone wants a less expensive solution, they will find a way to make the numbers work.

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Also, if you use their backend PayGate for e-com transactions they "could" take up to an additional 10% to accept payments through their site, they say you can use their API to use your own merchant account but were less than enthused about that. If you were to use them to collect say subscription fees of say $20 to $50 I wouldn't care but for my model of selling physically delivered product, wine for instance at $200 per case, that is way too high.

This is luducris. That just shows they want to hold you hostage. There should be no correlation between their operation and the e-comm merchant solution.

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All in all it is a cool platform but for $65,000 paid to them in the first 12 months what could I have programmed to my own specs? I haven't taken them off the list

I would.

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Also as a side note, I personally will be moving forward with my development plans as quickly as I can, but for the rest of the people here thinking about development, I would definetley start taking action ASAP. I feel the field is going to get very crowded very quickly to the point were differentiation in the eyes of potential investors or advertisers/sponsors will be difficult unless you own a premiere domain.

Spot On! Best of luck on your dev plans, look forward to seeing your project. Mind sharing - WineCountry .tv perhaps?

Regards, WB

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Even the wife likes the prospects behind WineCountry.TV !LOL! Hate to reveal too much but suffice it to say if we don't develop our plans for it someone will come along soon with a similar offering.

Also will probably be looking at a custom solution/platform rather than relying on someone elses tech.

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Old 06-22-2006, 04:16 PM   · #12
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Found this list of IPTV providers.

Found this:

http://www.theiptvnews.com/companies/

A lot of options out there!

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BrightCove.com called me today as I had signed up for their free commercial trial of their platform, they say in their material that you can have a broadband channel up in as little as 30-40 minutes, now thats what I'm talkin about!!!

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Wow, I feel like such a noob but think I will be spending time here:

http://www.tvworldwide.com/events/streaming%5Fmedia/060523/default.cfm?id=6893&type=wmhigh&test=0<BR><B

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noob domains wise or TV station wise? We all noob tv station wise I think, I know I am is brightcove affordable with the same type product WINE ? I read about them awhile ago
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Yeah very affordable and ok with the product. I am getting very excited.

Watch this:

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I watched the opening I guess I will watch each one

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Also Wine what kind of technical expertise do you need? Thank you
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I watched the opening I guess I will watch each one

Ty

Also Wine what kind of technical expertise do you need? Thank you



BrightCove seems to be very easy to use and intuitive. After talking with there rep and pointing him to a site I liked and want to emmulate some of the same sort of design, he assured me that they would easily be able to provide my visitors with a similar interface.

BrightCove also has a free trial download of Flix Pro for encoding your video to Flash 8.

Here is there programmer support page:

http://www.brightcove.com/resources/index.cfm

So I am hoping ease of use will be the rule and not the exception going forward as I explore all my options.

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Yesterday we talked with Roo.Tv thanks to info from SMYRNA. I am finding in conversations with all these guys almost a sense of panic. I was upfront with this rep and told him we had already talked with NarrowStep and BrightCove and would probably shop around a bit. He commented that BrightCove was still "just a start up with good press" and they had been deliveringvideo for five years. My response was mostly as a joke , "seems like 90% of the companies in this business are start ups", he didn't laugh which indicated to me why each company I talk with trys to run all the others reps into the ground. They are paniced and probably do believe that one of these start ups will end up delivering a turnkey solution probably in short order.

That meas that they need to capture as many contracted premium clients at current rates they charge and lock em in before a company like BrightCove or someone else, comes up with a $29.99 a month solution for small IPTV channels like we are discussing here.

Future looks bright for the little guy so keep collecting content.

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MediaZone is a leading global online broadcaster. We offer hard-to-find shows and events online so you can watch what you want, when you want! Whether you want to watch live, On Demand, or by pay-per-view, we have something for you!


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Didn't know whether to post her or the "Agregator" thread
But these guys porvide a pretty good assortment of content and look to be what we're all talking about from a "Channel" theory. They have an assortment rather than focusing on just one "Niche".


ALSO, Here's another link to a company that;
"has developed a new kind of streaming media technology". AND "NFT delivers audio and video content providers, both large and small, new opportunities to reach large audiences at a fraction of the cost of traditional webcasting solutions."
http://www.nft-tv.com/

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FINALLY, I had found this company that specializes in Converting video tape to streaming video for the Internet.
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westblock,

All good resources, signed up for NFT's beta test. If nothing else we are building a great informational resource here. I wonder if the mods could make this sticky?

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I found out today that ROO.tv powers the interface at :

www.pokertvnetwork.com

I use the owner Eric's plug and play javascript viewer on one of my sites:

www.LocalsPoker.com

His monetization model and interface is similar to what I would like for WineCounrty.TV with of course alot more content and e-commerce added.

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Butterfly.TV. Not sure what their propsition is but a few folks are using them.

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I found out today that ROO.tv powers the interface at :

www.pokertvnetwork.com

I use the owner Eric's plug and play javascript viewer on one of my sites:

www.LocalsPoker.com

His monetization model and interface is similar to what I would like for WineCounrty.TV with of course alot more content and e-commerce added.

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Correction: they used to power it but I guess not anymore. Sorry.



Apparently, www.pokertvnetwork.com is no longer using ROO as a platform.

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