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i-NET.tv


Had no idea that this ext has taken off so well for .tv sites on the net, so I had to pick up one and see how it does.

Value???
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Not sure if this is the right place to post, since there is another thread for this ext, but...

I cannot believe all of the net TV sites that have popped up over night. ChannelChooser.com was listed with Alexa this month as a "mover and shaker".

I own an ISP and am now really concerened with Bit Torrent.

Back to the subject, i-NET.TV. I think with the exception of the hype-en that it might be ok, actually I like the looks of it.

What do you think?
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"I-NET" can means "INTERNET"
Nice name! low to mid $xxx
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**Appraisal**

I'll appraise one domain name if there is a list of my choosing. If you would like more PM me and I wouldn’t mind doing appraisals of this quality for $NP. I only have so much free time you know =).

Appraising: I-NET.tv

I'll appraise using the RVER (Research, Value, Estimate, Recommendation) Method

Please feel free to use this method when appraising others, if you copy my outline please give me credit by letting people know to visit StateExams.Org. Thanks!

---- Research ----


- Domain Availability - (Using http://domainsite.com)

Domain Availability shows your potential selling power of the domain. If the domain is so popular that people would register even TLD's of lower value, then that shows strong selling power should you decide to sell it on the name alone.

Below is your Availability Report...

i-net.com: Taken
i-net.net: Taken
i-net.org: Taken
i-net.eu: Taken
i-net.in: Taken
i-net.biz: Taken
i-net.info: Taken
i-net.us: Taken
i-net.ws: Taken
i-net.bz: Taken
i-net.cc: Taken
i-net.tv: Taken
i-net.us.com: Taken

i-net.eu.com: Available
i-net.web.com: Available
i-net.name: Taken
i-net.ag: Taken

i-net.sc: Available
i-net.la: Available
i-net.hn: Available
i-net.cn: Taken
i-net.am: Available
i-net.fm: Available

(There is $60 worth of regged names here assuming $5 a reg (except for yours and the .COM, .NET and .ORG) even for the expensive TLD's.)

(So $60 worth of resellers value in theory)

- KeyWord Selector Tool - (Using http://inventory.overture.com/d/sear...ry/suggestion/)

The KeyWord Selector Tool is an awesome utility found at the site listed above for seeing everyday use of keywords or terms. If your term(s) has an everyday use of more then 1,000 searches that will usually raise the value of your name to most people IMHO. I usually grade keywords +$2.50 every 5000 searches done that month for it. The ratio of $2.50 cents every 5000 searches is 0.0005

5093 inet
245 inet tv

(Now this is interesting, because there are searches for inet tv, which matches your TLD, internet TV, there is huge potential here, though this section is just for value on the searches alone on that term, but for relevance in the next section this will be a good thing to point out.)

(Because .TV acts as your second keyword we can calculate the extra 245 into the figure here)

($2.67 cents worth of value here, using the ratio multiplied by overture searches)

- Relevance of Terms(s) [If multiple keyWords, or 3-4 LETTER based] -

If your domain name had multiple keywords this section is the research done to see the different potential meanings your domain name could have and the value IMHO I think would be the best way to sell it on versus others.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/199583-i-net-tv.html

(I-net, though I didn't think about it at first does mean internet, and there are real searches for inet, and more importantly searches specifically for inet tv, while not many searches, for something like the tv business, even making small amount of sales every now and then can mean big money, so there is some huge marketing potential here, and the TLD after looking at the overture is 3rd best in my opion right under .COM and .NET)

(Clearely though the advantage to selling the name would be for Internet TV, since the searches would be implying that when they go to your site)

- Google Searches (http://google.com) -

Google Searches shows the use of the word in everyday language and how likely someone is to see the word therefore and consider your name for sale or for personal use. Google searches of multiple terms are done using quotes now to accurately see exact uses of the phrase and just the two terms together.

I've noticed that registered TLD's start to pop up when the google market reaches about 300,000, watch try it yourself! For this reason I place reg value of roughly $5 at every 300,000 occurrences of the keyword, for a ratio of 0.000016666.

Results 1 - 10 of about 2,450,000 for "I-net". (0.92 seconds)

Wow is all I have to say (and I did that search with quotes!), the huge market here reflects why so many of the TLD's were registered.

You have $40.83 worth of google market value here IMHO after doing the calculation assuming just the term I-net, this is the normal calculation I would do for general names like .COM, .ORG and .NET TLD's, but if this were the case then lots of good names like video.HN would be worth a lot more now woudn't they? So that is your max value IMHO, but to be more realistic I'll do a search for "I-net tv" and see what shows up.

Results 1 - 10 of about 401 for "I-net tv". (0.49 seconds)

Not that many searches, but at least there was something. I think though, the fact that I-net is so popular by it's self you have the 3rd highest search term using Inet that it definently has value! So to be more accurate I'll try a search for inet tv as well.

Results 1 - 10 of about 24,600 for "Inet tv". (0.45 seconds)

Now it's picking up some more, still not terribly amazing like the first search for just I-net.

Results 1 - 10 of about 16,600,000 for "Inet". (0.51 seconds)

Inet without the dash gives you even more value. To be safe since your domain main keyword is I-net with .TV acting as your TLD and second keyword I think it's safe to assume the $40.83 worth of value.

- Sites Found Using the Name (Terms) -

The purpose of this section is to examine sites that use your name. If there are sites already using your name with TLD's of higher or lesser value then yours, your name has good potential selling power to those companies.

Sites will sometimes buy your domain name (DN) to upgrade upon there existing name or have more domains with unique traffic point to there site. It also just gives you a good idea of the possibility of finding an END USER, for the END USER sales. I think it's safe to assume half reg value ($2.50) for every site that uses your exact term in there business.

http://www.inetmi.com/
http://www.inet.co.za/
http://www.drinet.com/
http://www.inetsoftware.de/
http://www.inet.co.yu/
http://www.ktc.net/
http://www.inetmarketing.com/
http://www.metrokc.gov/dias/its/i-net/index.htm
http://i-netmarine.com/
http://searchnetworking.techtarget.c...213481,00.html
http://www.inetauthority.com/
http://inetonline.com/
http://www.spc-i.net/
http://www.inetclassroom.com/
http://www.inet.com.my/postoffice/chinese/
http://www.i-netinnovations.com/
http://www.tac.com/us/Navigate?node=1744
http://www.inet.bg/
http://www.i-netcs.com/
http://www1.industryinet.com/
http://inet.nfcym.org/login.asp?acce...%2Findex%2Easp
http://www.i-netcommunications.com/

Sites of Major Interest That Pertain more to your TLD--

http://www.metrokc.gov/dias/its/i-net/inetover.htm

(From the link above...

"I-Net (Institutional Network) is a fiber optic network which connects approximately 300 public facilities in King County The network will be used for data, voice, and video communications. It has been made possible as part of AT&T's rebuild of its cable system in the Puget Sound region."

...)

http://www.bmcc.cuny.edu/media/teleconf/inet.html

(Teleconferencing business!!)

http://computer-schools.us/i-Net-plus-Certification.htm

(Get video information for your i-net+ certification!, I might add this to my site stateExams.Org =P)

http://www.inet-imaging.com/index.htm

(This site does graphics and design which would fit with .TV as well)

Anyways the list of companies and potential here goes on and on, but these were some of the best, I can't even begin to describe the value your name has in this field, but I'll give you a minimum sell price from what I've found so far...)

$140 worth of Sites Value Here at the minimum, and only more probably if I kept going at it looking for more sites. I gave +$10 for every site that specifically pertained to something working with your TLD.

Absolutely great value here! Excellent steal.

– Sales Comparables –

This is new to my appraisal method, but you can use similar domain name sales in estimating the range dollar value of your domain. To a reseller, looking at possible comparable sales of names that are similar can mean a lot to there decision in buying the name on the extra speculative value. This section determines your possible range value, for example,$200+ LOW $XXX or $200 + High $XXX etc…

Low $XXX, is $300 under, Mid $XXX is under $600 but higher then $300, high $XXX is above $600 but under $1000. Same pattern for $XXXX etc.

All the above tells you is; if you hold onto it long enough you have a chance to sell for higher then its real domain value (which I based from the other factors in this appraisal). So the question is, is there a way to predict the time it might take to sell a domain for those extra figures? After all any domain might sell for one million dollars if you waited five hundred years! To do this I try (and you should too), to find as many similar comparable domain sales as possible and find the value they sold at and how long they were on the market for when they sold for this price. Finding about 6 good domain names IMHO will be a good indicator of the time it might take you to sell your domain name for the extra speculative value.

Before you start looking though, it should be clarified what exactly counts as a sales comparable. The best way to do this is point out the key things about your name. Here is a list of some of the important things I’ve noticed that give value to domain names.

Basic Common Features…

- How many characters long are the comparables domains?
- How many keywords do the comparable domains contain?
- If using keywords, does the keyword(s) of the comparable domains contain at least one similar keyword to the domain you’re comparing it against?

Next Most Common Features…

- What kind of overture and google-market did the comparable domains names have?
- How many other TLD’s were registered on the comparable domains?

Once you find some sales comparables that match exactly in basic common features (with the exception of character length for plural versions of names) and then get then filter the list down to the ones that match (the most closest) in the Next Most Common Features (it doesn’t have to be exact, just as close as you can get), and get six of these. After doing this I feel you have a good measure of similar domains for evaluative purposes.

Being a Real Estate Agent myself, when I want to value real property I go through a similar process of finding similar sales and things in common between the properties. Domains should be no different; they are just online real property.

Now once you find decent domains for evaluating correctly, the hard part is getting the information on those domains and finding the time at which they were listed and the time at which the sold. Next most important is how much it sold for. Usually people are quick to jump the gun and just look for the how much it sold for, but IMHO this is a big mistake and will cost you many wasted dollars. IMHO, the most important thing is looking at how long it took to sell the comparable domain names, as this will decide how long you should hold it and if it’s worth it to sell now or wait.

Now all you have to do is take the median of the time taken to sell and the median of the price it sold for to get a speculative range value and time that it will take to potentially sell your domain name for it’s maximum potential value.

Here is what I found for you…

Your search returned 5088 matching domains:

Now note, that there are 5088 domains for sale with the term inet in it, that means 5088 people bought domains using that term. Keeping this in mind, I'll show you some of the names with bids on them and what there minimum bids were.

12,797 USD with 8 bids on it for onlinetv.com, yours i-net.tv I count it as a simalair domain because yours is two words also if you think about it. So you should be able to use this as a comparable, though keep in mind, that onlineTV has "Unique Visitors per month*: 5,059", so this probably helps a lot to it's value. So to be more accurate when using this as a comparable in our calculations lets lower that $12,797 to more like $2000.

Of course for exact sales of terms using inet...

Your search returned 387 matching domains:

I found no sites using inet in front with any bids though or for that matter traffic on it. That is 0 to 387 chance of selling an inet, however it should be noted there were some good inet names with traffic.

inetdirectauctions.com Developed Website 2687
inetcoffe.com Make Offer - 848
inetarena.com Make Offer - 478
ineterpark.com Make Offer - 451
inethouse.org Make Offer - 261

Traffic does add value to the site considerably when people decide to buy or not.

1,024 USD for flexinet.com, I coudn't find any i-net for sale, but lots of inets, still i-net has value as the google results clearely showed, and probably would do well if you put it for sale on sedo. Looking at the range values and the bids on just these few names despite so many without bids, because your name is so generic and fits closer to the names with high bids, IMHO I think you are looking in the range of $1000-$2000 extra money potential with that name, and with 8 bids on onlinetv, a very simalair name, you could sell to the other potential bidders, meaning that to sell for that extra money would not take years, but IMHO, you should be able to sell it in a period of months for this extra money. I strongly believe that.


-Developed Site Value Information-

This section is new to my appraisal method but important as well. Unlike sites that use your name, the value here is purely a way to try and find the value to the site in it’s developed state (if there is one). Now this method does not account for the value of the server it’s being hosted on or advertisements paid (and still being paid) to support it, since there is no way I can figure that out easily, so you should add in the value of the cost for you to host and what you’ve paid for already into this calculation when transferring the entire site over to someone else.

Well the first and most obvious thing anyone will be interested in as a reseller is what is its page rank and daily unique hits. Some sites are lucky and get unique hits without any advertising or development; sites such as 2-3 letter domains usually get good results with that, or one word dictionary words. The site I use to figure this out is, (http://urltrends.com). Page rank 10,9 domains would be sites like google.com and microsoft.com, while good moderate names like dog.com are page rank 4,5,6. A higher page rank is what you’re looking for in deciding its value.

Though it should be noted that page rank can be deceiving to the value of a site. You should read this article …

(http://www.clickz.com/experts/search...le.php/3518646),

So before buying sites based on page rank, you should make sure it’s truly worth your investment and to understand that real value comes from well placed advertising and unique clicks.

To truly understand Page-Rank and how it works visit this site, (http://www.webworkshop.net/pagerank.html)

To save you some time though, here is the sum of it all,

“PageRank is a numeric value that represents how important a page is on the web. Google figures that when one page links to another page, it is effectively casting a vote for the other page. The more votes that are cast for a page, the more important the page must be. Also, the importance of the page that is casting the vote determines how important the vote itself is. Google calculates a page's importance from the votes cast for it. How important each vote is is taken into account when a page's PageRank is calculated.” –quoted from the above link.

Below is some information that you may find useful if you want to raise the page rank value for your domain name…

(http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com...ank-explained/)

“Google created quite a storm when it launched its green PageRank bar. Webmasters became obsessed with methods to increase their PageRank and high PageRank sites started selling text links for hundreds of dollars. A link from a high PageRank page, from a PageRank 7, 8, 9 or 10, has been known to make lower PageRank pages increase a full number, even two if the incoming link is from a PageRank 10, and there is no doubt it is good for search engine rankings.” – quoted from above link

To save you the time of how much page rank value could potentially have on the sale of your site, here is a pricing guide I’ve made. I’ll include my sources below.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=199583

(Prices set at lowest possible figures I could find)

PageRank 0-: NEGATIVE value to your domain name considerably
PageRank 1-: $0, standard page rank
PageRank 2-: $9 +
PageRank 3-: $15 +
PageRank 4-: $25 +
PageRank 5-: $30 +
PageRank 6-: $45+
PageRank 7-: $80 +
PageRank 8-: $199 +
PageRank 9-: $2000 +
PageRank 10-: $3,000.00 +

::::Sources::::

http://www.clickz.com/experts/search...le.php/3518646

“Previously, on the PR scale he would buy a PR 6 link for $30-60 per month. At the higher end, he'd spend up to $2,000 for a PR 9.”

(Note that my research below from other sites seems to confirm this statement here, to add to the credibility of the site below)

http://www.text-link.us/page-rank-6-933-ctg.htm

(On the site above you can see the value of selling links to people from different sites with different page ranks. This shows the potential selling power of having a high page rank name, and how much at a minimum it might add to the value of your site. Again page rank is to be looked at with a grain of a salt and careful research. It’s only a guess as to the possible unique clicks that might arise from it if you’ve read the article on how page rank works it can be deceiving and manipulative. Despite this fact, many people still buy based on page rank and therefore it does have speculative value that can be quantified as I did above.)

The next factor to consider when giving a value here is the portability of the code and the time it takes to create a site of whatever value it was that you’ve created. Again I’m going to assume the worst and hire the cheapest programmer I could find to do quality work at $12 an hour from India. Assuming this, just calculate the time it would take to make the site in hours, by getting quotes from three different programmers and you’ll have an idea of the value of your site and the time and money it would take to replicate it. Though unfortunately I won’t be able to help you here to much here very accurately, but I can give my estimate of the time it might take to create that site and the minimum I might charge as a programmer myself to get something done assuming I lived in India or some other foreign country working for the lowest price possible. Therefore I will give a range value for that in the estimate.

Development Value

Now that you have an understanding of how I came to the values I’m about to present, here is what I discovered.

Site Value: -$10

http://www.urltrends.com/viewtrend.p...2Fwww.i-net.tv

(The above link explains the below...)

Current Rankings:
PageRank: 0/10
Alexa Rank: Not Ranked

Incoming Google Links: 0
Incoming Yahoo Links: 0
Incoming MSN Links: 0
Incoming Alexa Links: 0
Overall Incoming Links: 0 (Overlap is possible - Estimated 0 unique links)
Outgoing Links: 23 (Ratio: 0.000% - Each Link Receives Approx. 0.000 PR) [ View History ]

Page Information:
Title: I-net.tv
Description: TV Plasma Television Direct TV Dish TV Adult TV Channels Free WebTV Enquire about this domain Related Searches TV Plasma Television Direct TV Dish TV Adult TV Channels Free WebTV Online Channels Arabic TV Online...

Online Since: Unknown

DMOZ Listed: No
Archive.org Listed: Yes (6 results)
UrlTrends Cache: View Latest ( View All )

(Your name doesn't really have any developed value in fact being page rank 0 you lose value here as sites don't want to link to you. You lose $10 here.)

(Also your site just seems to be under construction so no programming value to add to it)

- TLD - (Top-Level Domain) Value

My assessment is based on my personal experience in selling domain names.

In general the TLD's below have more positive value then other TLD's. Most other TLD's IMHO have negative value to most general names.

.COM names +$3.00 or + 3% of total value

.NET names +$1.50 +1.5% of total value
.ORG names +$1.00 +1% of total value
.BIZ names +$.20 or +.20% of total value
.US names +$.10 or +.10% of total value
.CC names +$.5 or +.5% of total value
.INFO names +$.1 or +.1% of total value

Though the value of the TLD's is also dependent on the name and the use of the TLD with it.

In most cases however, the .COM, .NET and .ORG are the way to go for general purpose names.

(You own a .TV, while not name I support to much, it is gaining in popularity and you are seeing more sites using it, it's starting to match .CC in popularity IMHO and I may change the order listed above to reflect this. Still .TV detracts from the value inet would have with other TLD's, but .TV does fit as the second keyword if your selling internet TV apparel and what not. So I'll give it the bennefit of the doubt and +1.0% of value of the domain, matching that of the .ORG)

---- Value ----

Domain Availability Value - >+$60

Pricing Guide: Nice amount of regged names on names other then the common three!

KeyWord Selector Value ->+$2.67

Pricing Guide: not to many searches for the exact term, but not bad =).

Relevance of Terms Value ->+$50*

Pricing Guide: I think I-NET clearely stands for internet and as research shows is a very marketable name, and this section is really where I put my person opinion of value into the name, I give it $50 worth of speculation value. I think it can safely be worth that much on speculation alone from my initial look if I was pressured into getting it. You don't have to count this into the final calculation though

Google Searches Value- >+$40.83

Pricing Guide: Amazing google market results!

Sites found using the name Value ->+$140*

Pricing Guide: That is just sites I could bear to go through =P, there may be some more major ones, but of the first 8 pages of google I found $140 worth of legitimate sites using the term in there business to add real value to the name you have.

Sales Comparable Range Value ->

RANGE MEDIAN:low $XXXX to mid $XXXX
TIME MEDIAN TO SELL:Three Months

Pricing Guide:

Developed Site Value ->RANGE:$-10-$0

Pricing Guide: (Read development info section above)

TLD Assessment Value ->+$2.93

Pricing Guide: using 1% algorithm in this case...$293*.01

---- Estimated Value ----

Final Value:+$286.17 MINIMUM RESELLERS VALUE to RANGE VALUE: low $XXXX, to mid $XXXX

---- Recommendation----

I believe your domain name is a winner, and if you advertise on SEDO, you might steal the bidders from onlinetv.com and get a lot of money if you act now while they are interested. At minimum you could sell to a reseller for $293 easily using these facts I gave you, but you should hold onto it and sell it on sedo, because the time ratio to extra speculative money is not to long in my opinion since your name is so similar. Spend the $40 or whatever and advertise on SEDO. If you don't get any bids I'll be surprised, make your minimum bid $293, so you start building bids on it, and as you get bids counter offer in the low $xxxx, mid $xxxx range and see what happens. You should not sell for less then $293. I'm tempted to take the name from you myself after researching it =P

Good luck with your domain name.

- Joe

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Very nice!
On the way to Sedo

Impressive appraisal, you are through!

I will be using your services in the future.
Thumbs up to hard work!
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Alright, let me know how it does on SEDO, my experience in .TV and .CC domains is still weak, but I believe it should sell regardless because the other TLD's of weaker value were regged as well.
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I really like this convergence between the "social" web sites and TV (such as news corp buying myspace), particularly as I own webv2.tv -- low value right now but I'll sit on it a couple of years and see what happens.
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not sold on i-net.tv (at least yet).

I think .tv is just starting to gain some momentum as an extension but putting "e" or "i" in front of an otherwise generic word doesn't cut it for me in .tv just yet. For this strategy to work a TLD needs to have really established itself...and IMO .tv is not quite there yet. Might work with .net, .com or .co.uk - but any other .tld's I don't know (incidentally I rank .tv anywhere 1st to 4th behind these three assuming the domain name has that elusive "intrinsic" value).
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With and "i" and a hyphen...hmmm

I can't give you a one page appraisal but using a goold old fashioned method called comparative analysis, I would have to say that it's inferior to net.tv, internet.tv and even inet.tv

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LOL dottvfan!

Last week my daugther told me about the Nintendo wii. I had been seeing the idea around here for almost 1.5 months.

Sometimes you do not really acknowledge a name until you have repeatedly see it. Most of my cable channels, that I get today, have a .tv extention to their name...i. e. FoxNews.tv, FoxNewsChannel4.tv, MTV.tv, SPIKE.tv. ASweet.tv...(doah, that was @ a bar)...

My point... .tv is an country extention that people are trying to associate to TV, ie, TELEVISION, not TRANSELVANIA...
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not TRANSELVANIA...
...or Tuvalu as the case may be
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There are a lot of articles on this in the DOT TV forum and elsewhere but I most definitely fall into the "television" club (or broadband video as the case may be)! I've linked a couple of the older ones below to get you started

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http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/11255-tv-domains.html

http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/13896...v-domains.html

There's no substitute for the main thread though so if you have a spare couple of hours...

http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/12229...acter-com.html

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Well first off,

Nice appraisal there joe...

But to appraise i-net.tv at xxxx low is quite a stretch and dream like. Reality will say high XX. I-net.tv doesnt cut it for me.

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Alright, let me know how it does on SEDO, my experience in .TV and .CC domains is still weak, but I believe it should sell regardless because the other TLD's of weaker value were regged as well.
Decided to list it here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MESE%3AIT&rd=1
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I was going to intially appraise it weaker, but research shows otherwise, if the name is being used that much, I'm sure someone will make an offer. at least of $280 or more. That was my minimum, my range is saying if you waited long enough you have a potential for extra $$ that from research of other similar domains. It's debatable of course.

Please post what you sold it for here later when you do, I will be interested to see how close I get if at all.
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Joe. Take this for example:

I try to sell Overture.TV . Every single extention is taken. No offers at all in the XXX range.
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Joe. Take this for example:

I try to sell Overture.TV . Every single extention is taken. No offers at all in the XXX range.
Well did you try to advertise it properely? All the other registered TLD's tells you is that one person or many people were interested in the name, doesn't guarantee lots of money.

I said it was worth low $XXXX cause of the comparables, the other domains getting high bids, you can argue they arne't comparables and smash the low $XXXX debate though since that is inflating the appraisal. I need more domains to work with to get it more accurate, but it should be close to there. The other value in this name comes from the list , and I repeat, ongoing list that I didn't even finish of names and businesses that use Inet and I-NET more specifically I-NET TV. The use of business using the '-' was close to as much as those without plus he can still market to both. I see a big price drop because of the dash, but it's still worth a lot. If properely advertised to all those businesses and marketed on sedo, he should easily make his money back and then some from experience.
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also overture.TV, the TV acts as your second keyword, how does overture and tv make sense, that is why.

Just cause a name has many registrations and good overture, doesn't mean it's worth anything if the second keyword .TV in this case doesn't match with it in some way.

So in theory, though because of all the registered TLD's there is value to your domain 'overture' to a domain collector still, but note that is your only market, so to get that money you'll have to contact the owners of the other overtures.TLD's and request in the $60 range.

It's the same thing with high OVERTURE related domains, 'of, the, it' all high overture keywords, but mixed together mean nothing.

the value in his i-net name is much more then just because of the registered TLD's, they just gave you direct people to market to right away, the real value here is in the fact it's used so much everywhere for business. Even more importantly for internet TV business.

By the way, I think the domain name would sell better on sedo airwave IMHO. Unless you advertise really well for the ebay.
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Hey all -

Interesting feedback from everyone. My background is marketing, and the past year I've decided to become active in digital real estate. My portfolio and focus is on new media/mediums, gambling that a discovery or a proposed technology (service/product), with business/consumer adoption and sufficient advertising/marketing will gain the necessary attraction for large domain interest and consumption. That said...
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I've been monitoring iPTV and iTV (Web-based television broadcasts) for some time now. I know they are nothing alike and are delivered to the end user via *either* a traditional TV (using internet protocol) or through the Web (iPTV and iTV, respectively). iPTV is the larger of the 2 in terms of all the hype we hear about today; triple play/quadruple play, with industry forcasts ranging from $10 to 41 billion by the year 2010, worldwide. The rollouts are intensive and aggressive, with Asia and Europe leading the US in deployment and consumer adoption (the reasons for this are many, but mostly because of our [USA] regulatory constraints/roadblocks). Suffice it to say, the roadblocks are being addressed/remedied and national penetration/deployment is underway. There's so much more on this but I wanted to prelude my question with the above first. Now the question...

iTV is on the rise, and with Google, Yahoo, MSN, AOL, and all other major Web players looking at video delivery (video advertising models included), it is with little doubt associated domains will gain in demand and value; TV<name>.com, <name>TV.com, <name>.tv, etc. Television stations have also joined the internet 'bandwagon' and are advertising and delivering services via the Web, and as most NP's have already expressed, are using <corporatename>.tv as their domain. Indeed, .tv as an extension has been recognized for a period as a cool and appropriate extension for such a business. However, .tv is not largely recognized by the vast majority of consumers today. Sooo...

Without a great deal of marketing and advertising to push the .tv extension the consumer mind-set's search/type-in/recognized domain extension remains .com (followed by .net, .org... ) (.com is king?). The major Web players mentioned above re; iTV have yet to announce .tv spin-offs, they may indeed be planning to push iTV through their own portals, and if this is the case, there will be little exposure for iTV domains? (this is a question, not a statement.)

iPTV, however, is not Web delivered, it is delivered to the consumer TV set (we'll skip set-top boxes and the other TV viewing requirements for this discussion). I believe iPTV will be heavily advertised/marketed via the Web and traditional media (companies are investing billions, they will want to realize returns asap and grab as much market share as they can - the war will be iPTV and traditional TV,with iPTV eventually taking worlwide markets). Think Voip but magnify the industry revenue expectations by a zillion and add all the romance VoIP lacks. As for iPTV and .tv, I do see businesses who cater to the industry buying/using both .com and .tv extensions, but remember, iPTV is not delivered via the Web, the Web is how all iPTV associated businesses will advertise, not deliver services. Now, back to the paragraph above, ".com is king", and unless there's a heavy .tv ad push, businesses will tend/lean towards .com, such as iPTVNews.com, iPTVSports.com, iPTV22.com, etc. (advertising their services). If they were to go the .tv route, well, this is where I hope you all can educate me. Why would most invest/gamble in a relatively unknown extension of .tv? For internet TV I see value in select services and gateways, and I can see some value in iPTV, but honestly, unless there's some serious .tv push (marketing/advertising) consumers aren't going to be 'exposed' and will remain .com viewers (surfers). Granted, long term is a different story, I'm talking more the next 3-4 years.
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I ask this question (these questions?) with the sincere hope to generate thought and feedback. I appreciate your knowledge and experience in all things domain

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Hey all -

Interesting feedback from everyone. My background is marketing, and the past year I've decided to become active in digital real estate. My portfolio and focus is on new media/mediums, gambling that a discovery or a proposed technology (service/product), with business/consumer adoption and sufficient advertising/marketing will gain the necessary attraction for large domain interest and consumption. That said...

I've been monitoring iPTV and iTV (Web-based television broadcasts) for some time now. I know they are nothing alike and are delivered to the end user via *either* a traditional TV (using internet protocol) or through the Web (iPTV and iTV, respectively). iPTV is the larger of the 2 in terms of all the hype we hear about today; triple play/quadruple play, with industry forcasts ranging from $10 to 41 billion by the year 2010, worldwide. The rollouts are intensive and aggressive, with Asia and Europe leading the US in deployment and consumer adoption (the reasons for this are many, but mostly because of our [USA] regulatory constraints/roadblocks). Suffice it to say, the roadblocks are being addressed/remedied and national penetration/deployment is underway. There's so much more on this but I wanted to prelude my question with the above first. Now the question...

iTV is on the rise, and with Google, Yahoo, MSN, AOL, and all other major Web players looking at video delivery (video advertising models included), it is with little doubt associated domains will gain in demand and value; TV<name>.com, <name>TV.com, <name>.tv, etc. Television stations have also joined the internet 'bandwagon' and are advertising and delivering services via the Web, and as most NP's have already expressed, are using <corporatename>.tv as their domain. Indeed, .tv as an extension has been recognized for a period as a cool and appropriate extension for such a business. However, .tv is not largely recognized by the vast majority of consumers today. Sooo...

Without a great deal of marketing and advertising to push the .tv extension the consumer mind-set's search/type-in/recognized domain extension remains .com (followed by .net, .org... ) (.com is king?). The major Web players mentioned above re; iTV have yet to announce .tv spin-offs, they may indeed be planning to push iTV through their own portals, and if this is the case, there will be little exposure for iTV domains? (this is a question, not a statement.)

iPTV, however, is not Web delivered, it is delivered to the consumer TV set (we'll skip set-top boxes and the other TV viewing requirements for this discussion). I believe iPTV will be heavily advertised/marketed via the Web and traditional media (companies are investing billions, they will want to realize returns asap and grab as much market share as they can - the war will be iPTV and traditional TV,with iPTV eventually taking worlwide markets). Think Voip but magnify the industry revenue expectations by a zillion and add all the romance VoIP lacks. As for iPTV and .tv, I do see businesses who cater to the industry buying/using both .com and .tv extensions, but remember, iPTV is not delivered via the Web, the Web is how all iPTV associated businesses will advertise, not deliver services. Now, back to the paragraph above, ".com is king", and unless there's a heavy .tv ad push, businesses will tend/lean towards .com, such as iPTVNews.com, iPTVSports.com, iPTV22.com, etc. (advertising their services). If they were to go the .tv route, well, this is where I hope you all can educate me. Why would most invest/gamble in a relatively unknown extension of .tv? For internet TV I see value in select services and gateways, and I can see some value in iPTV, but honestly, unless there's some serious .tv push (marketing/advertising) consumers aren't going to be 'exposed' and will remain .com viewers (surfers). Granted, long term is a different story, I'm talking more the next 3-4 years.
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You guys are forgetting one thing.. or place.. India!!! India has lots of people. The "I" in I-net.tv could stand for India!!

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What do you think the value of i-Net.TV is in todays market?
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