$63,500 in Premium Regs in Three Weeks

antonis12 · 02-09-2006, 03:48 PM

Everyone,

To the best that I can determine, below please find the all premium .tv registrations (e.g. premium names that are no longer available) and premium .tv drops (e.g. new premium names that have become available or have been newly made premium) by week, for the last three weeks:

I think this is pretty accurate, but of course something could have slipped by. It does not track LLL/NNN and LL/NN names.

Three weeks is not long enough to draw any conclusions other than the fact *much* more money is sloshing around .tv than any other "contendor" namespace tracked by DNJournal, it is just not visible because it is happening at Verisign. One year registration fees of $63,500 transacted in a three week period!

Of course, regs might have occured at a discount, but, on the other hand, reg fees must be paid for multiple years if you actually want to keep your names (which is not accounted for in these numbers)

Hope you find this interesting.

Antonis

Week ending 1/23/06

Premium Regs
bodybuilding.tv $500
desire.tv $500
deutsches.tv $500
deutschland.tv $5,000
key.tv $2,000
phoenix.tv $2,000
students.tv $500
styles.tv $500
training.tv $1,000
ukraine.tv $500
unit.tv $500

Premium Drops
baja.tv $2,000
browser.tv $500
fridge.tv $500
hydroponics.tv $500
march.tv $500
popstars.tv $1,000
protein.tv $500
sugar.tv $2,000

Week ending 1/30/06

Premium Regs
babies.tv $500
beast.tv $500
birthday.tv $2,000
hongkong.tv $7,500
iran.tv $7,500
swing.tv $500
toronto.tv $7,500
trade.tv $3,000

Premium Drops
fireworks.tv $1,000
kern.tv $500
phobie.tv $500
stuart.tv $500
style.tv $50,000
trainer.tv $500
uebersee.tv $500
understand.tv $500

Week ending Feb 6

Premium Regs
anarchy.tv $500
certification.tv $500
devil.tv $500
digi.tv $5,000
dove.tv $500
fishing.tv $7,500
greenlight.tv $500
howard.tv $2,000
illinois.tv $500
mommy.tv $500
pennsylvania.tv $500
showtime.tv $1,000
southcarolina.tv $500
standup.tv $500
thalia.tv $500

Premium Drops
kabbalah.tv $500
orthopedic.tv $500
talents.tv $500

Total Fees Regged:$63,500 (in three weeks)

Total Fees Dropped:$63,000 (in three weeks), but only $13,000 if you exclude one name (style.tv) which has a $50,000 annual reg fee

.Mike · 02-09-2006, 04:07 PM

Nice work! thanks for sharing.

gamehouse · 02-09-2006, 04:17 PM

Amazing work. Informative. May I know how did you track this information?

Gamehouse

Australia · 02-09-2006, 04:45 PM

great info thanks

i got a real bargain on my fish.tv compared to fishing.tv at 7,500

nice work antonis12

antonis12 · 02-09-2006, 07:52 PM

gamehouse, nothing more complex (albeit tedious) than pulling information from www.tv premium listings page was involved here.

i will try to track and post weekly if I can, though no promises!

gamehouse · 02-09-2006, 08:24 PM

Hey, I guessed it must be by hard work and thanks a lot for working hard for all .tvers.

Which whois you are using to check dropped or going to expire names. For a point, I know for sure that whois with www.tv is not updated where as whois through verisign site seems up to date.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/166049-63-500-premium-regs-three-weeks.html

Gamehouse

Originally Posted by antonis12

gamehouse, nothing more complex (albeit tedious) than pulling information from www.tv premium listings page was involved here.

i will try to track and post weekly if I can, though no promises!

antonis12 · 02-09-2006, 09:17 PM

i don't use whois. I just identify what names didn't exist on the premium list the previous week. That probably means a dropped name or, potentially, a name newly made premium (but that is less likely...)

Carlton · 02-09-2006, 10:01 PM

Good thread. See quite a few states/cities and several high interest subject areas that fit .tv very well. Wonder what 'mommy.tv' is supposed to be about?

snoop · 02-09-2006, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by antonis12

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=166049
Three weeks is not long enough to draw any conclusions other than the fact *much* more money is sloshing around .tv than any other "contendor" namespace tracked by DNJournal, it is just not visible because it is happening at Verisign. One year registration fees of $63,500 transacted in a three week period!

This is not an accurate statement, most sales aren't reported regardless of extension, someone was making a similar argument about .us a few weeks ago. $63,500 over 3 weeks is a drop in the bucket when you are talking about entire extensions.

johntv · 02-10-2006, 12:20 AM

Hi Antonis12, really good information, thanks. As I have a few country/city .tv names, it is good to see iran, deutschland, ukraine as well as hongkong, pennsylvania, south carolina and toronto being regged.

antonis12 · 02-10-2006, 04:50 AM

1/ snoop, do you have any estimate of what percentage of high value sales in other extensions are reported? You are implying that it is in the 5-15% range. I am relatively new to domain names...where are these names occuring? Are most premium names occuring by someone looking at the whois and contacting folks directly?

2/ unlike any other extension there is a structural reason (unreported premium names held by Verisign, the largest market participant), that the reported .tv percentage should be lower in this namespace

gamehouse · 02-10-2006, 08:04 AM

More over, why the heck you want to attach .tv with .us or what ever. Yes when you talk about entire namespace or domain industry 63,500 is not much, but nobody is talking about entire industry in this thread. Also, with other name extentions, it is resale prices that take the amount to high levels not initial registration costs and in .tv case it is entirely initial registration costs.

Thanks,

Gamehouse

Originally Posted by snoop

This is not an accurate statement, most sales aren't reported regardless of extension, someone was making a similar argument about .us a few weeks ago. $63,500 over 3 weeks is a drop in the bucket when you are talking about entire extensions.

equity78 · 02-10-2006, 08:47 AM

First off great work Antonis, do you have an account at IDOTZ.net? I would like to send you a free .tv name for this effort awhile back I regged three names that are not my style for .tv I regged them because someone was looking for two word generics with good ovt I regged laptopcomputer.tv and laptopcomputers.tv both have high ovt and GOOGLE with " you can put up a mini sitea nd some adsense make some $$$ please tell me which of the 2 you would like and I will push to you at IDOTZ.net if you don't have an account simply open one. FREE.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=166049

I have a big thread from before on the STATES.tv and it was nice to see SOuth Carolina PEnnsylvania and Illinois especially PA IL were bargains the # 5 and 6 largest states for $500 when Other states much smaller are more.

Johntv you have to love seeing names like TORONTO.tv get regged for $7500 aloha mate.

LLL that have been regged I was looking at one for a long time switched and got 111.tv and someone from Japan regged NEO.tv, WESTBLOCK and I regged WET.tv so regs have been good.

AND antonis never be bothered by the .commies who come to the .tv thread for what reason I don't know kind of like a str8 guy going to a lesbian bar trying to convert them . hahahaha Great JOB ANTONIS

staskul · 02-10-2006, 09:14 AM

antonis12
Thanks for the list!

johntv · 02-10-2006, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by equity78

Johntv you have to love seeing names like TORONTO.tv get regged for $7500 aloha mate.

Hi Equity, it is indeed good so see the high reg fees people/companies pay like 7,500 for toronto.tv, but also iran.tv and hongkong.tv for yearly 7,500 each, looks like end users and not speculaters. Lets hope to see some nice developped .tv websites out of these names. Aloha Raymond

02-10-2006, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by gamehouse

More over, why the heck you want to attach .tv with .us or what ever. The original post did not talk anything about other extenstions, nothing at all. Yes when you talk about entire namespace or domain industry 63,500 is not much, but nobody is talking about entire industry in this thread. Also, with other name extentions, it is resale prices that take the amount to high levels not initial registration costs and in .tv case it is entirely initial registration costs.

Thanks,

Gamehouse

I was in the thread that snoop is referencing and the point that was being made was that many sales in an ext that is on the move ^ go unreported because the big players don't want to tip their hand and let the rest of the world know that the ext is on the move ^ - the theory being that keeping a lid on the transactions will extend the time period of an undervalued market and maintain an advantage for the buyers who positioning themselves for a potential market boom by buying up premium names at undervalued prices. ie buy cheap before the market takes off and don't give away what you are doing.

My first impression of the $63,500 *registration* figure was that it was a very positive sign for the .TV namespace, so I suppose the conclusions one draws depends upon how one approaches it. .TV is still growing it's wings, faster than most of the other .cctlds, I might add, but it is still not in full flight. Because the ext is still in it's developmental stages, it makes it an easy target for detractors who are prone to make comparisons that would point out weaknesses rather than potential. snoop is entitled to his opinion and as an NP member in good standing, has the right to post here. At the same time, it is revealing that in the aforementioned .us thread, he took a similar position against the .info and .us namespaces. http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...z-or-us-2.html
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=166049

I have an opinion, but I am not taking sides and I am staying away from debates that make comparisons of namespaces based upon statistical analysis. It is too easy to claim that statistics are objective fact, when in reality they have been manipulated and used to support an opinion that one is basing their marketing strategy upon. However, it is fair to look at the larger picture and to establish a context for the ideology/agenda of the players involved, pro and con, in the debate.

gamehouse · 02-10-2006, 11:07 AM

I completely agree. And its not my intention to rip off anybody's right to express opinions. Everyone is entitled to do that. It is just that I did not want this thread to turn into one of those where all extentions are compared and beaten to death. Nevertheless, once again, everyone is entitled to express their opinion.

But as I said, the fact remains that for premium .tv regs, it is the initial charge itself not resale price and also this initial charge by .tv corporation will be there for years to come. By which I mean, anybody regging a premium name knows before hand and ready to pay premium price for years to come. This is not the case with many other extentions. And I believe that makes a difference.

Good luck,

Gamehouse

Originally Posted by Grrilla

I was in the thread that snoop is referencing and the point that was being made was that many sales in an ext that is on the move ^ go unreported because the big players don't want to tip their hand and let the rest of the world know that the ext is on the move ^ - the theory being that keeping a lid on the transactions will extend the time period of an undervalued market and maintain an advantage for the buyers who positioning themselves for a potential market boom by buying up premium names at undervalued prices. ie buy cheap before the market takes off and don't give away what you are doing.

My first impression of the $63,500 *registration* figure was that it was a very positive sign for the .TV namespace, so I suppose the conclusions one draws depends upon how one approaches it. .TV is still growing it's wings, faster than most of the other .cctlds, I might add, but it is still not in full flight. Because the ext is still in it's developmental stages, it makes it an easy target for detractors who are prone to make comparisons that would point out weaknesses rather than potential. snoop is entitled to his opinion and as an NP member in good standing, has the right to post here. At the same time, it is revealing that in the aforementioned .us thread, he took a similar position against the .info and .us namespaces. http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...z-or-us-2.html
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=166049

I have an opinion, but I am not taking sides and I am staying away from debates that make comparisons of namespaces based upon statistical analysis. It is too easy to claim that statistics are objective fact, when in reality they have been manipulated and used to support an opinion that one is basing their marketing strategy upon. However, it is fair to look at the larger picture and to establish a context for the ideology/agenda of the players involved, pro and con, in the debate.

02-10-2006, 11:55 AM

Quote:

It is just that I did not want this thread to turn into one of those where all extentions are compared and beaten to death.

Yep. One of those threads is one too many, IMHO. The one I have linked up above cured me of any need that may have compelled me to work in the genre, at least, in the forseeable future.

Quote:

And its not my intention to rip off anybody's right to express opinions. Everyone is entitled to do that.

I know that eveyone in this thread knows what's up and my intention was not to "school" anyone. It was just a reminder, to myself, as much as to anyone else, that challenges that that have a basis that is anchored in a differing viewpoint are acceptable and are even beneficial and healthy, particularly, when they are supported by substantive information. However, axe grinding, unsupported claims, contrarianism, and the manipulation of information as a result of disingenuous intent are all birds of a different color.

antonis12 · 02-10-2006, 12:59 PM

wow, equity78, appreciate the offer (though there was no need)

My idotz.net account is antonis12. I think I like the plural better...

namewaiter · 02-10-2006, 01:26 PM

Although I agree it's a great, it most definitely isn't all inclusive. I was negotiating a XX.tv that was registered by someone else in my haste, so not seeing this domin listed I know that some have been omitted, but nice list nonetheless!

antonis12 · 02-10-2006, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by namewaiter

Although I agree it's a great, it most definitely isn't all inclusive. I was negotiating a XX.tv that was registered by someone else in my haste, so not seeing this domin listed I know that some have been omitted, but nice list nonetheless!

it does not track n/nn/nnn.tv or l/ll/lll.tv at all. only the premium "words"

namewaiter · 02-10-2006, 03:30 PM

oh sorry .. i missed that, then even better still!!

deu12000 · 02-11-2006, 11:20 PM

.TV is growing at a rapid pace. I've been trying to avoid the .TV bug, but everyday I find it a little harder. It's similar to the .us domain, .us is a lower initial investment, but .tv has the fastest growth potential that I've seen in a long time. I'm starting to get hit with the .tv flu.

equity78 · 02-12-2006, 03:29 PM

LAPTOPCOMPUTERS.tv pushed

snoop · 02-12-2006, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by antonis12

Are most premium names occuring by someone looking at the whois and contacting folks directly?

yes

Originally Posted by Grrilla

At the same time, it is revealing that in the aforementioned .us thread, he took a similar position against the .info and .us namespaces. http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...z-or-us-2.html
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=166049

why is that revealing?

02-09-2006, 03:48 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
antonis12 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,007	$63,500 in Premium Regs in Three Weeks Everyone, To the best that I can determine, below please find the all premium .tv registrations (e.g. premium names that are no longer available) and premium .tv drops (e.g. new premium names that have become available or have been newly made premium) by week, for the last three weeks: I think this is pretty accurate, but of course something could have slipped by. It does not track LLL/NNN and LL/NN names. Three weeks is not long enough to draw any conclusions other than the fact much more money is sloshing around .tv than any other "contendor" namespace tracked by DNJournal, it is just not visible because it is happening at Verisign. One year registration fees of $63,500 transacted in a three week period! Of course, regs might have occured at a discount, but, on the other hand, reg fees must be paid for multiple years if you actually want to keep your names (which is not accounted for in these numbers) Hope you find this interesting. Antonis Week ending 1/23/06 Premium Regs bodybuilding.tv $500 desire.tv $500 deutsches.tv $500 deutschland.tv $5,000 key.tv $2,000 phoenix.tv $2,000 students.tv $500 styles.tv $500 training.tv $1,000 ukraine.tv $500 unit.tv $500 Premium Drops baja.tv $2,000 browser.tv $500 fridge.tv $500 hydroponics.tv $500 march.tv $500 popstars.tv $1,000 protein.tv $500 sugar.tv $2,000 Week ending 1/30/06 Premium Regs babies.tv $500 beast.tv $500 birthday.tv $2,000 hongkong.tv $7,500 iran.tv $7,500 swing.tv $500 toronto.tv $7,500 trade.tv $3,000 Premium Drops fireworks.tv $1,000 kern.tv $500 phobie.tv $500 stuart.tv $500 style.tv $50,000 trainer.tv $500 uebersee.tv $500 understand.tv $500 Week ending Feb 6 Premium Regs anarchy.tv $500 certification.tv $500 devil.tv $500 digi.tv $5,000 dove.tv $500 fishing.tv $7,500 greenlight.tv $500 howard.tv $2,000 illinois.tv $500 mommy.tv $500 pennsylvania.tv $500 showtime.tv $1,000 southcarolina.tv $500 standup.tv $500 thalia.tv $500 Premium Drops kabbalah.tv $500 orthopedic.tv $500 talents.tv $500 Total Fees Regged:$63,500 (in three weeks) Total Fees Dropped:$63,000 (in three weeks), but only $13,000 if you exclude one name (style.tv) which has a $50,000 annual reg fee

02-09-2006, 04:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
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02-09-2006, 10:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Carlton Internet Real Estate Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,182	Good thread. See quite a few states/cities and several high interest subject areas that fit .tv very well. Wonder what 'mommy.tv' is supposed to be about? __________________ PremiumDomains.biz -> BLOG \| Charlotte.US \| Manhattan.mobi \| NewYorkCity.biz \| Detroit.US \| Miami.biz \| NorthCarolina.info \| California.biz

02-10-2006, 08:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	First off great work Antonis, do you have an account at IDOTZ.net? I would like to send you a free .tv name for this effort awhile back I regged three names that are not my style for .tv I regged them because someone was looking for two word generics with good ovt I regged laptopcomputer.tv and laptopcomputers.tv both have high ovt and GOOGLE with " you can put up a mini sitea nd some adsense make some $$$ please tell me which of the 2 you would like and I will push to you at IDOTZ.net if you don't have an account simply open one. FREE. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=166049 I have a big thread from before on the STATES.tv and it was nice to see SOuth Carolina PEnnsylvania and Illinois especially PA IL were bargains the # 5 and 6 largest states for $500 when Other states much smaller are more. Johntv you have to love seeing names like TORONTO.tv get regged for $7500 aloha mate. LLL that have been regged I was looking at one for a long time switched and got 111.tv and someone from Japan regged NEO.tv, WESTBLOCK and I regged WET.tv so regs have been good. AND antonis never be bothered by the .commies who come to the .tv thread for what reason I don't know kind of like a str8 guy going to a lesbian bar trying to convert them . hahahaha Great JOB ANTONIS __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report Last edited by equity78; 02-10-2006 at 08:50 AM.

02-11-2006, 11:20 PM	#23 (permalink)
deu12000 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,447	.TV is growing at a rapid pace. I've been trying to avoid the .TV bug, but everyday I find it a little harder. It's similar to the .us domain, .us is a lower initial investment, but .tv has the fastest growth potential that I've seen in a long time. I'm starting to get hit with the .tv flu. __________________ Low Priced Turnkey Websites , Free Forum Software , Electronic Cigarettes Wholesale and Dropshipping , Find your Future Home

02-09-2006, 04:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
gamehouse Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,401	Amazing work. Informative. May I know how did you track this information? Gamehouse

02-09-2006, 04:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Australia Account Closed Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 404	great info thanks i got a real bargain on my fish.tv compared to fishing.tv at 7,500 nice work antonis12

02-09-2006, 07:52 PM	THREAD STARTER #5 (permalink)
antonis12 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,007	gamehouse, nothing more complex (albeit tedious) than pulling information from www.tv premium listings page was involved here. i will try to track and post weekly if I can, though no promises!

02-09-2006, 09:17 PM	THREAD STARTER #7 (permalink)
antonis12 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,007	i don't use whois. I just identify what names didn't exist on the premium list the previous week. That probably means a dropped name or, potentially, a name newly made premium (but that is less likely...)

02-10-2006, 12:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
johntv Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kenya Posts: 1,702	Hi Antonis12, really good information, thanks. As I have a few country/city .tv names, it is good to see iran, deutschland, ukraine as well as hongkong, pennsylvania, south carolina and toronto being regged.

02-10-2006, 04:50 AM	THREAD STARTER #11 (permalink)
antonis12 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,007	1/ snoop, do you have any estimate of what percentage of high value sales in other extensions are reported? You are implying that it is in the 5-15% range. I am relatively new to domain names...where are these names occuring? Are most premium names occuring by someone looking at the whois and contacting folks directly? 2/ unlike any other extension there is a structural reason (unreported premium names held by Verisign, the largest market participant), that the reported .tv percentage should be lower in this namespace

02-10-2006, 09:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
staskul Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: domains Posts: 2,805	antonis12 Thanks for the list!

02-10-2006, 12:59 PM	THREAD STARTER #19 (permalink)
antonis12 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,007	wow, equity78, appreciate the offer (though there was no need) My idotz.net account is antonis12. I think I like the plural better...

02-10-2006, 01:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
namewaiter Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: cleveland Posts: 2,203	Although I agree it's a great, it most definitely isn't all inclusive. I was negotiating a XX.tv that was registered by someone else in my haste, so not seeing this domin listed I know that some have been omitted, but nice list nonetheless!

02-10-2006, 03:30 PM	#22 (permalink)
namewaiter Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: cleveland Posts: 2,203	oh sorry .. i missed that, then even better still!!

02-12-2006, 03:29 PM	#24 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	LAPTOPCOMPUTERS.tv pushed __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

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