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Old 12-29-2005, 08:38 PM THREAD STARTER               #1 (permalink)
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I'm seeing a lot of "bad" .TV names being reg'd...


O.k... Reality check everyone. This thread will be your wake up call.

If the .TV domain your thinking about registering doesn't have a .com equivalent showing up in OVT, then I'd pass on the name.

Now it's true most of these domains could sell for at or above reg fee so no one (for the most part) will be out any money, but please realize your time is worth something.

If you want to maximize your time and subsequently future wealth don't buy crap. Save your money up to get something decent, or as I stated earlier find a .com equivalent in OVT that can still be had for reg fee at Godaddy.

Just think about it: Only the type-in names or ones that truly fit the .tv extension will be able to command any kind of price. If you think otherwise because .TV is coming online and "everyone" will want a .TV name you'll be disappointed I'm afraid. Heck, there are "decent" .com names that sell for under a few hundred, and .com literally owns the internet. The same will be true for .TV and maybe even less so since .com will "migrate" to the television circuit giving ".TV" some competition.
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Hope this doesn't offend anyone. Obviously we've seen some very good .TV names, but anymore lately we've seen the "I just bought "x"...what do you think?" You're better off saving the $34 to put towards a real "$x,xxx" .TV name when you can then just come on here to say, "Hey, I bought "X" ... Can't believe I got it!"

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Bad is in the beholder, I guess: there's just as many crappy dot coms available as there are crappy dot tvs.... I've got enough dot coms in my pocket, thank you, and more than a few .nets, .us, even some .in domains.

there are dot coms that have sold well that I have felt aren't worth squat, and I'm sure the same will be true with other tlds..... If a great keyword helps get you to the top of the search engines, who cares if it is a .tv or .com?

.com is useful for type-ins, sure, but that has more relevance for domains that you do not intend to develop.
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Originally Posted by RogueWriter
If a great keyword helps get you to the top of the search engines, who cares if it is a .tv or .com?
I once thought this too... Then I did some research. You should know "Key words" in a url don't have any more weight to a search placement then linkage to your site or even the way the links are worded on your site.
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Keyword domains do have a lot of importance outside of the "SEO" argument, in that they can be easier to remember. This is helpful in advertisement phase of your launch.

Keep in mind, I'm not putting down the .tv extension, rather I'm pointing out that it seems as if "just any name" is being reg'd in the .TV extension lately. My suggestion is to not do this when there are some very good names still available to reg. In a sense, my humble suggestion is to go after those .tv domains using the criteria I laid out (check .com equivalent in OVT). I'd also check Google, for "Your Name TV".

The alternative is to not heed my advice, and continue to reg .TV names until you have 1000 of them. 950 of which will most likely expire next year. If you don't think this can happen. Just ask yourself how many times this has happen to you...
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Originally Posted by izo-pod
O.k... Reality check everyone. This thread will be your wake up call.

If the .TV domain your thinking about registering doesn't have a .com equivalent showing up in OVT, then I'd pass on the name.

Now it's true most of these domains could sell for at or above reg fee so no one (for the most part) will be out any money, but please realize your time is worth something.
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If you want to maximize your time and subsequently future wealth don't buy crap. Save your money up to get something decent, or as I stated earlier find a .com equivalent in OVT that can still be had for reg fee at Godaddy.

Just think about it: Only the type-in names or ones that truly fit the .tv extension will be able to command any kind of price. If you think otherwise because .TV is coming online and "everyone" will want a .TV name you'll be disappointed I'm afraid. Heck, there are "decent" .com names that sell for under a few hundred, and .com literally owns the internet. The same will be true for .TV and maybe even less so since .com will "migrate" to the television circuit giving ".TV" some competition.

Hope this doesn't offend anyone. Obviously we've seen some very good .TV names, but anymore lately we've seen the "I just bought "x"...what do you think?" You're better off saving the $34 to put towards a real "$x,xxx" .TV name when you can then just come on here to say, "Hey, I bought "X" ... Can't believe I got it!"

Cool.
are you saying to reg the premium names? $500 and up?

I agree with you partly however there is some names that will just sell based on the name.......
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Originally Posted by JeffM2
are you saying to reg the premium names? $500 and up?

I agree with you partly however there is some names that will just sell based on the name.......
What names would those be? (just asking)
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Originally Posted by izo-pod
What names would those be? (just asking)
well from seeing some of the .tv's regged i'd say ya alot of them do suck

what do you consider not *garbage* then? Insight?
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Originally Posted by JeffM2
well from seeing some of the .tv's regged i'd say ya alot of them do suck

what do you consider not *garbage* then? Insight?
Generic, one worders. In some cases, two worders that flow with .TV like butter.

I know this argument sounds familiar (think .com), but some things don't change.

I guess one must ask themselves.... "If I were able to go back to 1990 and knowing what I know now. What dot com names would I buy?"
I hope you wouldn't buy "www.wakeup.TV or "familyphysician.TV" or some crap like that.

It's true that a lot of the good .TV real estate has been taken, but the prices to acquire names you want from other people or dot TV would be relatively cheap compared to what prices will be in 2008 or 09. Does this not seem like De Ja vu?

My last comments. There are probably still some gems that are available for $34 (or whatever coupon price) at Godaddy. These names become even more valuable if you do get a REALLY GOOD one (fitting my criteria OVT/Yourname TV in Google) through Godaddy. Reason: Your yearly costs are low, and resale should be higher because you own property no one else does. Technically if you buy through Dot TV you are paying the landlord significantly higher rental prices. Transfer costs are higher.
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Even still. If I had a choiceto buy a good name through Godaddy or a great name through Dot TV. I hedge my bets and buy through Dot TV. Only great will do right now, I'm afraid.
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I understand your point, but I would alter my original reply to 'good and great is in the eye of the beholder, too', in that, yes, you are certainly good at picking out domain names, but you do not know everyone's circumstance, their interests or their concept of value.
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When canvastarps.com dropped, you might have paid up to 1K for the domain, or you might have stopped bidding at 80 bucks.

I would have continued bidding up to 20K, then contacted family for more resources, whatever it took to get that domain.

I am not being critical, you make a good point. I am just saying that your comments are more valid if applied to all .tlds rather than just .tv........ Personally, I see 10X more crappy names from other tlds talked about here than .tv names.
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it depends on a person who is buying the domain ... like beauty is the eye of beholder same thing here.

You might not like what the other person likes so you can't really say anything about it.
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value is in the eye of the beholder.... izo how many $500 prem names do you have.
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I think the .tv's just stand out because everyone knows they cost more. But, I am sure we, including myself, are registering the same amount of bad .com's. .net's, .cc's, and so on. We should all be able to register a domain, but be able to "unregister" it after a week, or so. Maybe there could be a 25% "restocking" fee! But, at least this way we could say "why did I register that name?", and get most of our money back! Of course, the registrars wouldn't like my idea!.


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Originally Posted by knarfmusik
I think the .tv's just stand out because everyone knows they cost more. But, I am sure we, including myself, are registering the same amount of bad .com's. .net's, .cc's, and so on. We should all be able to register a domain, but be able to "unregister" it after a week, or so. Maybe there could be a 25% "restocking" fee! But, at least this way we could say "why did I register that name?", and get most of our money back! Of course, the registrars wouldn't like my idea!.


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I agree, I reg 4-5 .coms for each .tv at least, and they are not even close to being as good... The keywords for the .tvs are better simply because the .coms are taken...

Hopefully the .tv thing won't be a flash in the pan... only time will tell I guess...
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Originally Posted by JeffM2
value is in the eye of the beholder.... izo how many $500 prem names do you have.
Value in domain names have to do with earnings potential and traffic. The "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" stuff went out some time ago. It's been awhile.

As far as .TV names I own. I stayed within the confines of Godaddy. By no means do I feel that I have the "best" .TV names, however I feel that I got some very good names on the cheap. Let's just say I got some "type-in" names that won't break me come next October.

www.Glue.TV - Stay glued!™ (as opposed to stay tuned--lol)
www.Meth.TV
www.Chopper.TV
www.BookClub.TV
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www.MensFitness.TV
www.WomensFitness.TV
www.Hyperspace.TV
www.FamilyHistory.TV
www.ClassifiedAds.TV
www.ClassifiedAd.TV

Half are one worders, the other half two worders with strong OVT/Google #'s. These are all the .TV names I plan to buy as I need to begin develop what I have. It's going to be fun. I'm planning a full-out site on Chopper.TV. If all goes well, next year I will be renting a building in Sturgis South Dakota. You'll be able to check out "Chopper.TV" on a weekly basis, which will feature bike builds, girl/bike stuff, etc. Buy T-Shirts, etc. Win a OCC Chopper kind of entertainment. Like I said, it's going to be fun!
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Originally Posted by izo-pod
Value in domain names have to do with earnings potential and traffic. The "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" stuff went out some time ago. It's been awhile.

As far as .TV names I own. I stayed within the confines of Godaddy. By no means do I feel that I have the "best" .TV names, however I feel that I got some very good names on the cheap. Let's just say I got some "type-in" names that won't break me come next October.

www.Glue.TV - Stay glued!™ (as opposed to stay tuned--lol)
www.Meth.TV
www.Chopper.TV
www.BookClub.TV
www.Nymph.TV
www.MensFitness.TV
www.WomensFitness.TV
www.Hyperspace.TV
www.FamilyHistory.TV
www.ClassifiedAds.TV
www.ClassifiedAd.TV

Half are one worders, the other half two worders with strong OVT/Google #'s. These are all the .TV names I plan to buy as I need to begin develop what I have. It's going to be fun. I'm planning a full-out site on Chopper.TV. If all goes well, next year I will be renting a building in Sturgis South Dakota. You'll be able to check out "Chopper.TV" on a weekly basis, which will feature bike builds, girl/bike stuff, etc. Buy T-Shirts, etc. Win a OCC Chopper kind of entertainment. Like I said, it's going to be fun!
was METH a premium name (or any of the others above? $500+)
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since he bought from godaddy, it would have been a standard price name ($25-$50, depending on registrar/promotion)
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I was going to buy some drug names but they are all premium...
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chopper.tv is a good name. I still like the idea behind meth.tv, stretching out beyond the typical way in which a domainer looks for value.
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Originally Posted by RogueWriter
chopper.tv is a good name. I still like the idea behind meth.tv, stretching out beyond the typical way in which a domainer looks for value.
Appreciate that...

One thing I did forget to mention when you are looking to buy a .TV domain is to see if all the other extensions in the name have been bought up. If the .ws and .name are taken and the .TV is the only one left, you should probably consider buying it after checking OVT and Google.

On a few of the names I bought Glue, Meth, Chopper and BookClub they were the only ones left. My guess is possibly they were premium at one time, then dropped. ON all the rest of the names I purchased the .ws/.name were the only ones still available. This tells me, they are good names, but not a "hot" keyword...maybe "luke warm"....lol
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personally i think overture is overrated any anyone who uses overture as the sole basis of regging or not regging names needs to find a new hobby/profession. And to be honest i see very little potential in most of the names you regged.
 
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personally i think overture is overrated any anyone who uses overture as the sole basis of regging or not regging names needs to find a new hobby/profession. And to be honest i see very little potential in most of the names you regged.
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Bad names are bad names in any extension. With .tv they just cost more.

In order to curb the potential for burning cash, I invite all of you to use the following process when acquiring names:
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1. Idea / Concept.
2. Check availability on "dotster.com". They have the most extensions and the snappiest response times. Has your name been taken in many extensions? Is it only available in extension .XX? A good indication of keyword popularity / rarity.
3. Would you develop it? If no, DO NOT REGISTER IT.
4. Check the Overture numbers for the name with and without the extension. Again, a good measure of keyword popularity and potential development potential. 50,000+ is acceptable without the extension. If less forget it.
5. Check Sedo.com. Do the other extensions listed for the name get a lot of traffic or bids? If so continue.
6. Again, would you develop it? If no, DO NOT REGISTER IT.
7. Go to your registrar of choice and reg the name.

This has worked well for me in the past and will continue to be my MO in 2006.
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Bad names are bad names in any extension. With .tv they just cost more.
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In order to curb the potential for burning cash, I invite all of you to use the following process when acquiring names:

1. Idea / Concept.
2. Check availability on "dotster.com". They have the most extensions and the snappiest response times. Has your name been taken in many extensions? Is it only available in extension .XX? A good indication of keyword popularity / rarity.
3. Would you develop it? If no, DO NOT REGISTER IT.
4. Check the Overture numbers for the name with and without the extension. Again, a good measure of keyword popularity and potential development potential. 50,000+ is acceptable without the extension. If less forget it.
5. Check Sedo.com. Do the other extensions listed for the name get a lot of traffic or bids? If so continue.
6. Again, would you develop it? If no, DO NOT REGISTER IT.
7. Go to your registrar of choice and reg the name.

This has worked well for me in the past and will continue to be my MO in 2006.
This is the method I used and set out to find some great names. In one week (12-05) Four (4 ) names were regged and Three (3) of those names were accepted by greatdomains. Two of them are .TV's. With very good OVT and most all other ext's gone. Although I still like a good brandable name like "Grafrica" for the most part this is very sound adice from Name-Maker
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This is the method I used and set out to find some great names. In one week (12-05) Four (4 ) names were regged and Three (3) of those names were accepted by greatdomains. Two of them are .TV's. With very good OVT and most all other ext's gone. Although I still like a good brandable name like "Grafrica" for the most part this is very sound adice from Name-Maker
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onlineeducation.tv - onlineschool.tv - careereducation.tv
still nobody seems to understsand..

1. GreatDomains can accept as many domains as they want... Most sales are going thru SEDO atm....

2. GreatDomains runs .tv so they are a bit bias.
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still nobody seems to understsand..

1. GreatDomains can accept as many domains as they want... Most sales are going thru SEDO atm....

2. GreatDomains runs .tv so they are a bit bias.
So your saying I don't understand based on the refference to greatdomains acceptance...yet you've completely omitted the OVT's. The popularity and potential of the name and The google results from your comment ?
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I agree...I don't understand. I'm here to learn so please ......I'm open to any good sound advice.
But......

OnlineEducation 1.9 mil ovt
CareerEducation 870k ovt
OnlineSchool 72k ovt



In fact these two word phrases out rank the single word ovt's

Count Keyword "education"

1904466 education online
1287894 education
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Count Keyword "career"

827285 career education
632971 career
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Count Keyword "online"

2373200 online dating
1904466 education online
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273027 online
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The Google results are quoted.

Results 1 - 20 of about 7,020,000 English pages for "online education". (0.17 seconds)

Results 1 - 20 of about 2,160,000 English pages
for "online school".

Results 1 - 20 of about 3,210,000 English pages for "career education". (0.23 seconds)

Another factor I use is that the keywords to these domains all use the actual name in almost all the related keywords phrases. such as.....

Searches done in November 2005
Count Search Term
1904466 online education

1904466 education online
26790 online college education
22625 continuing education online
12353 online education degree
6073 online education course
3692 free online education
3240 online nursing education
3090 california driver education online
2507 adult education online
2406 online distance education
1833 education distance online learning
1833 online driving education
1771 driver education online
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