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| NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2005
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![]() ![]() | I'm seeing a lot of "bad" .TV names being reg'd... O.k... Reality check everyone. This thread will be your wake up call. If the .TV domain your thinking about registering doesn't have a .com equivalent showing up in OVT, then I'd pass on the name. Now it's true most of these domains could sell for at or above reg fee so no one (for the most part) will be out any money, but please realize your time is worth something. If you want to maximize your time and subsequently future wealth don't buy crap. Save your money up to get something decent, or as I stated earlier find a .com equivalent in OVT that can still be had for reg fee at Godaddy. Just think about it: Only the type-in names or ones that truly fit the .tv extension will be able to command any kind of price. If you think otherwise because .TV is coming online and "everyone" will want a .TV name you'll be disappointed I'm afraid. Heck, there are "decent" .com names that sell for under a few hundred, and .com literally owns the internet. The same will be true for .TV and maybe even less so since .com will "migrate" to the television circuit giving ".TV" some competition. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/152422-im-seeing-lot-bad-tv-names.html Hope this doesn't offend anyone. Obviously we've seen some very good .TV names, but anymore lately we've seen the "I just bought "x"...what do you think?" You're better off saving the $34 to put towards a real "$x,xxx" .TV name when you can then just come on here to say, "Hey, I bought "X" ... Can't believe I got it!" Cool.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Bad is in the beholder, I guess: there's just as many crappy dot coms available as there are crappy dot tvs.... I've got enough dot coms in my pocket, thank you, and more than a few .nets, .us, even some .in domains. there are dot coms that have sold well that I have felt aren't worth squat, and I'm sure the same will be true with other tlds..... If a great keyword helps get you to the top of the search engines, who cares if it is a .tv or .com? .com is useful for type-ins, sure, but that has more relevance for domains that you do not intend to develop.
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=152422 Keyword domains do have a lot of importance outside of the "SEO" argument, in that they can be easier to remember. This is helpful in advertisement phase of your launch. Keep in mind, I'm not putting down the .tv extension, rather I'm pointing out that it seems as if "just any name" is being reg'd in the .TV extension lately. My suggestion is to not do this when there are some very good names still available to reg. In a sense, my humble suggestion is to go after those .tv domains using the criteria I laid out (check .com equivalent in OVT). I'd also check Google, for "Your Name TV". The alternative is to not heed my advice, and continue to reg .TV names until you have 1000 of them. 950 of which will most likely expire next year. If you don't think this can happen. Just ask yourself how many times this has happen to you... | ||||
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I agree with you partly however there is some names that will just sell based on the name....... | ||||
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I know this argument sounds familiar (think .com), but some things don't change. I guess one must ask themselves.... "If I were able to go back to 1990 and knowing what I know now. What dot com names would I buy?" I hope you wouldn't buy "www.wakeup.TV or "familyphysician.TV" or some crap like that. It's true that a lot of the good .TV real estate has been taken, but the prices to acquire names you want from other people or dot TV would be relatively cheap compared to what prices will be in 2008 or 09. Does this not seem like De Ja vu? My last comments. There are probably still some gems that are available for $34 (or whatever coupon price) at Godaddy. These names become even more valuable if you do get a REALLY GOOD one (fitting my criteria OVT/Yourname TV in Google) through Godaddy. Reason: Your yearly costs are low, and resale should be higher because you own property no one else does. Technically if you buy through Dot TV you are paying the landlord significantly higher rental prices. Transfer costs are higher. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=152422 Even still. If I had a choiceto buy a good name through Godaddy or a great name through Dot TV. I hedge my bets and buy through Dot TV. Only great will do right now, I'm afraid. | ||||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I understand your point, but I would alter my original reply to 'good and great is in the eye of the beholder, too', in that, yes, you are certainly good at picking out domain names, but you do not know everyone's circumstance, their interests or their concept of value. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=152422 When canvastarps.com dropped, you might have paid up to 1K for the domain, or you might have stopped bidding at 80 bucks. I would have continued bidding up to 20K, then contacted family for more resources, whatever it took to get that domain. I am not being critical, you make a good point. I am just saying that your comments are more valid if applied to all .tlds rather than just .tv........ Personally, I see 10X more crappy names from other tlds talked about here than .tv names.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | it depends on a person who is buying the domain ... like beauty is the eye of beholder same thing here. You might not like what the other person likes so you can't really say anything about it.
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Hopefully the .tv thing won't be a flash in the pan... only time will tell I guess... | ||||
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As far as .TV names I own. I stayed within the confines of Godaddy. By no means do I feel that I have the "best" .TV names, however I feel that I got some very good names on the cheap. Let's just say I got some "type-in" names that won't break me come next October. www.Glue.TV - Stay glued!™ (as opposed to stay tuned--lol) www.Meth.TV www.Chopper.TV www.BookClub.TV ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=152422 www.Nymph.TV www.MensFitness.TV www.WomensFitness.TV www.Hyperspace.TV www.FamilyHistory.TV www.ClassifiedAds.TV www.ClassifiedAd.TV Half are one worders, the other half two worders with strong OVT/Google #'s. These are all the .TV names I plan to buy as I need to begin develop what I have. It's going to be fun. I'm planning a full-out site on Chopper.TV. If all goes well, next year I will be renting a building in Sturgis South Dakota. You'll be able to check out "Chopper.TV" on a weekly basis, which will feature bike builds, girl/bike stuff, etc. Buy T-Shirts, etc. Win a OCC Chopper kind of entertainment. Like I said, it's going to be fun!
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![]() ![]() ![]() | since he bought from godaddy, it would have been a standard price name ($25-$50, depending on registrar/promotion)
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | chopper.tv is a good name. I still like the idea behind meth.tv, stretching out beyond the typical way in which a domainer looks for value.
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One thing I did forget to mention when you are looking to buy a .TV domain is to see if all the other extensions in the name have been bought up. If the .ws and .name are taken and the .TV is the only one left, you should probably consider buying it after checking OVT and Google. On a few of the names I bought Glue, Meth, Chopper and BookClub they were the only ones left. My guess is possibly they were premium at one time, then dropped. ON all the rest of the names I purchased the .ws/.name were the only ones still available. This tells me, they are good names, but not a "hot" keyword...maybe "luke warm"....lol
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Bad names are bad names in any extension. With .tv they just cost more. In order to curb the potential for burning cash, I invite all of you to use the following process when acquiring names: ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=152422 1. Idea / Concept. 2. Check availability on "dotster.com". They have the most extensions and the snappiest response times. Has your name been taken in many extensions? Is it only available in extension .XX? A good indication of keyword popularity / rarity. 3. Would you develop it? If no, DO NOT REGISTER IT. 4. Check the Overture numbers for the name with and without the extension. Again, a good measure of keyword popularity and potential development potential. 50,000+ is acceptable without the extension. If less forget it. 5. Check Sedo.com. Do the other extensions listed for the name get a lot of traffic or bids? If so continue. 6. Again, would you develop it? If no, DO NOT REGISTER IT. 7. Go to your registrar of choice and reg the name. This has worked well for me in the past and will continue to be my MO in 2006.
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And my newly adopted model based on the quality advice of many namepros members . namenut onlineeducation.tv - onlineschool.tv - careereducation.tv | ||||
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1. GreatDomains can accept as many domains as they want... Most sales are going thru SEDO atm.... 2. GreatDomains runs .tv so they are a bit bias. | ||||
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So your saying I don't understand based on the refference to greatdomains acceptance...yet you've completely omitted the OVT's. The popularity and potential of the name and The google results from your comment ? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=152422 I agree...I don't understand. I'm here to learn so please ......I'm open to any good sound advice. But...... OnlineEducation 1.9 mil ovt CareerEducation 870k ovt OnlineSchool 72k ovt In fact these two word phrases out rank the single word ovt's Count Keyword "education" 1904466 education online 1287894 education -------------------------- Count Keyword "career" 827285 career education 632971 career -------------------------- Count Keyword "online" 2373200 online dating 1904466 education online ' ' ' 273027 online ---------------------------------- The Google results are quoted. Results 1 - 20 of about 7,020,000 English pages for "online education". (0.17 seconds) Results 1 - 20 of about 2,160,000 English pages for "online school". Results 1 - 20 of about 3,210,000 English pages for "career education". (0.23 seconds) Another factor I use is that the keywords to these domains all use the actual name in almost all the related keywords phrases. such as..... Searches done in November 2005 Count Search Term 1904466 online education 1904466 education online 26790 online college education 22625 continuing education online 12353 online education degree 6073 online education course 3692 free online education 3240 online nursing education 3090 california driver education online 2507 adult education online 2406 online distance education 1833 education distance online learning 1833 online driving education 1771 driver education online 1768 adult continuing education online 1700 diego driving education online san 1633 graduate online education course 1433 online higher education 1343 master degree education online 1329 master of education online 1221 online special education course 1045 online education program 1028 online insurance continuing education 902 online bachelor degree education 902 online master degree in education 866 online education journal 832 online education high school 794 online degree in education 763 online education university 747 online special education 710 education learning online 707 online business education 678 distance education general online 632 online education class 557 online education canada 553 online physical education degree 544 early childhood education online degree 532 online christian education 489 thomson education direct and online 486 continuing education course online 486 elementary education degree online 485 online master in education 446 early childhood education online ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=152422 434 music education online 432 computer education online 431 online graduate education 403 distance education degree online 391 online trading education 385 universal council for online education accreditation 374 online accredited education 361 hunters education online 349 online bachelor degree in education 345 online education college degree 341 online continuing medical education 339 online education game 333 online hunter education course 329 master degree in special education online 324 online medical education 319 online nursing continuing education 303 online degree education compass 297 online education degree program 291 master education degree online program 280 engineering education online 279 online graduate education degree 270 online special education degree 258 distance education loan online 245 online education journal article 245 doctorate education online 243 sex education online 240 online education software 235 online education master program 229 driver education online course 227 master online special education degree 226 online master distance education degree 221 online education in canada 220 online education with thomson 219 education online phd 217 colorado education online 217 degree education music online 214 online education article 214 future online education 201 laureate online education 197 online bachelor degree elementary education 195 online education for teacher 192 online continuing legal education 191 online education guide 190 online education in india 188 university of phoenix online education 187 online adult education program 180 online real estate continuing education course 177 online career education 175 education distance online learni 174 education direct online 174 online education jobs 172 best online education 171 free online education course 165 christian distance education online 164 online education australia 162 driver education online class 159 online education specialist degree 157 online education school Searches done in November 2005 Count Search Term 827285 career education 1624 career education corporation 1168 education amp career 888 career and technical education 789 career in education 421 career education corp 420 career education institute 377 career education system 340 career in early childhood education 279 career education college 246 association for career and technical education 207 elementary education career 200 national career education 199 early childhood education career 197 career and technology education 196 chronicle of higher education career network 194 physical education career 193 career education center 177 online career education 167 special education career 166 chronicle of higher education career 157 career health education 145 career music education 138 career in physical education 135 career education lesson plan 132 education career fair 132 career in special education 129 dvd education and career 127 career education en language 120 education career employment 120 career in higher education 118 higher education career 116 middle school career education 101 education career .com 98 education development and career 95 7 8 career education grade 95 career physical education and lifetime fitness system 93 career in elementary education 93 career in health education 92 career degree education 91 car education and training 85 education career alternative program 85 career education requirement 83 life centered career education 83 career education high school 83 education career job search 82 harrison center for career education 81 career education nursing 80 ata career education 77 oklahoma department of career and technology education 74 golf career education 73 career education nursing vocational 70 business and career education 70 career education corporation lawsuit 69 art education career 69 journal of career and technical education 68 career in music education 67 information about education and career 64 career education special teacher 63 adult career education 63 education career recruiting 61 career education search 60 secondary education career 59 wisconsin education career access network 59 career education popup 58 career education curriculum 55 career education goal 52 career education medical 51 100 apply career cv education experience frsh java job not not resume skill submit vitae 51 career education system kansas city 51 career computer education 49 career education program 49 special education career school 47 career in adult education 47 career colorado education 47 career and education jobs 47 career education planning 46 association career education 46 career education for kid 45 career education philosophy technical 45 career education schools 45 uk career education 43 career education teaching 41 100 603 apply career education experience frsh hampshire information job new nh not resume skill submit 41 career change education 41 career education it 40 special education career opportunity 39 alternative career in education 38 bargain business career education training training training.tripod.com videos.html 38 career education services 37 career education field plan training 37 career opportunity in education 37 pearson education career 37 career educational resource 37 career and vocational education 36 adult career and vocational education 36 career denmark education in medical 36 real estate career education 36 career education information technology 36 career for education majors It's hard for me to find my lack understanding in these names. But I very well could be completely wrong. I would love to develop any of these names personaly. This almost seems you have something personal against greatdomains......or me? I hope not. namenut | ||||
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