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Old 11-20-2011, 04:39 PM THREAD STARTER               #1 (permalink)
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This is the only .tv name that I purchased this year.

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Great Name!
I really like this one.

The first thing I thought of was any of those infomercials we have seen late night. There are many products that have 30 minute commercials and of course 30 second commercials. They all use this catch phrase as their motto/brand awareness to show that their product has been advertised on tv already.

This name encompasses any products at all.

As for resale value alone, I would say not so great ($25-$50-ish) in the D2D Aftermarket but as for a potential EndUser I could see a nice DNJournal type of sale, especially to a Company that specializes in a multiple of product infomercials.

I just searched Google for your term and I see that there already is quite a well developed Product site in the tv.com version which is highly ranked so you could do the same thing and specialize in the product videos and I believe that one day soon you would have other Companies that are not on your site, who would pay money to add their own vids to your site.

As usual, development is key but with this domain I see that being a lot easier and extremely memorable.

If you ever get cold feet with this domain after a couple of shitty appraisals here and you feel like selling this baby, I would be interested.

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Old 11-20-2011, 06:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by the dot stop View Post

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As for resale value alone, I would say not so great.
I love this one, only reason I did not get it was possible trademark issues? there's gotta be hundreds of as seen on TV marks on this name.

I would have paid the reprice.

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As for resale value alone, I would say not so great ($25-$50-ish) in the D2D Aftermarket but as for a potential EndUser I could see a nice DNJournal type of sale, especially to a Company that specializes in a multiple of product infomercials.
I think that there would have been a number of people willing to pick this up at the price released so I disagree on your D2D evaluation

The fact that this is not a trademark and really part of common language makes it very memorable.

Could be used in the same way as the last Aisle is used at every walkgreens... to sell mighty putty, the spaghetti pan and various other late-nite items.


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My team have just out and out sucked this year.... sorry about Cutler.
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I think that there would have been a number of people willing to pick this up at the price released so I disagree on your D2D evaluation
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The fact that this is not a trademark and really part of common language makes it very memorable.

Could be used in the same way as the last Aisle is used at every walkgreens... to sell mighty putty, the spaghetti pan and various other late-nite items.


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My team have just out and out sucked this year.... sorry about Cutler.
You are probably about my d2d appraisal on this name because I would pay $100 for this name right now.

As for your Eagles, they just beat New York IN New York so...not too shabby.

AS for Cutler being out now potentially for the rest of the season (after we just won 5 in a row)...This is really gonna hurt.
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As Seen On (dot) TV correct?

I'd say $500 reseller. It's a very good name imo and is something I'd trade for.
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Great Name!
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I really like this one.

The first thing I thought of was any of those infomercials we have seen late night. There are many products that have 30 minute commercials and of course 30 second commercials. They all use this catch phrase as their motto/brand awareness to show that their product has been advertised on tv already.

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The buy of the year, IMO.

I assume you know AsSeenOnTV.com sold for $5 Million! ... back in 2000!

I don't understand how the .TV version can be appraised between $25 - $500, by .TV fanboys, who believe .tv is better than tv.com

At the very least, one would think the owners of the tv.com would pay far more than $500.

Off the cuff, I would appraise at 40k to 150k. (Though I would target a prime end user and ask for a Mill)

The term, however, has lost its 'special products' connotation... as internet TV means virtually any product can now claim to be "as seen on TV".
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I don't understand how the .TV version can be appraised between $25 - $500, by .TV fanboys, who believe .tv is better than tv.com
I don't understand your assumption. I'm not a tv fanboy and/or one that believes .tv is better than tv.com. That said, few tv.coms make sense to me other than defensive regs to .TVs. I did say reseller. I'm sure there are other resellers willing to pay more, but they would be harder to find than the end users willing to pay much more imo - Very few (meaning varies greatly) tv's selling for that $ among domainers.
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Originally Posted by menzl View Post
I'm not a tv fanboy and/or one that believes .tv is better than tv.com. That said, few tv.coms make sense to me other than defensive regs to .TVs.
So one is not better than the other but "few tv.coms make sense"?
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If tv.com only makes sense to you as a defensive reg (with few exceptions) clearly your saying you think .tv a better.

But, your "not a fanboy".
All right, man. We're in .TV land so you can have your .tv cake and eat it too.


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great purchase fleaking !

I hope, I will see you soon on DN with it !

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Originally Posted by eyedomainous View Post

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For the American market?
I agree nost of the time.

For the rest of the world? Sometimes but not GEOs.

Madrid.TV makes sense globally.
MadridTV.com does less so.
MadridTV.es does in the middle.

I believe (no real evidence but casual observation) that a german site would rather be on keyword-tv.de than keyword.tv or keywordtv.de and would barely consider keywordtv.com at all.

But it works the other way too:

AsSeenOn.TV would be FAR inferior to AsSeenOnTV.com in my opinion because the .TV makes it a hack. A good hack, but a hack nonetheless.

The one thing I would say is that a TV.COM really has to be more TV specific than a .TV in my mind. I don't know why - it's just a personal feeling. .TV is more generic media/tv in my mind than TV.com which is VERY specific to a channelization. Maybe thats just me. Probably is.
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Two questions regarding the .com you mentioned and this .tv purchase...

Attempting to contact the .com for a big pay day would show bad faith, wouldn't it?

If the .com wanted the .tv so much, wouldn't they already have it?

I'd value the domain between mid $xxx and low $xxxx
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The buy of the year, IMO.
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I assume you know AsSeenOnTV.com sold for $5 Million! ... back in 2000!

I don't understand how the .TV version can be appraised between $25 - $500, by .TV fanboys, who believe .tv is better than tv.com

At the very least, one would think the owners of the tv.com would pay far more than $500.

Off the cuff, I would appraise at 40k to 150k. (Though I would target a prime end user and ask for a Mill)

The term, however, has lost its 'special products' connotation... as internet TV means virtually any product can now claim to be "as seen on TV".
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It's a public domain term i thought. I don't know that you can have bad faith in that instance.
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Low to mid $xx

The name "asseenon" is awkward even with the .TV extension. I personally would be thinking about a grace delete on this name. IMO.
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Hi fleaking I was at http://madduxpress.com/index.php/201...emo-day-36140/ and had my "GetSeenOn.TV" shirt on
- Kevin Harrington who lives here in Tampa Bay was there of course and he and his "posse" thought it said AsSeenOnTV Kevin finished buying the domain http://asseenontv.com in June, 2011 for 5mil in cash http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/naylor/ERAM0811/#/26 for his company http://www.tvgoodsinc.com/ I'd be glad to intro you to a few folks who work for Kevin - it's quicker that way than to call him directly - let me know You never know dear
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Makes you wonder what the little tm is for on the com, maybe its just all show and no go.
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Makes you wonder what the little tm is for on the com, maybe its just all show and no go.
To make you believe that they are the official sellers of the products you see on TV when they aren't.

Reasonable attempt though.
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Thanks Cate, very informative post.

So AsSeenOnTV.com sold for $5Mil TWICE!! Once in 2000 then again in June of this year.
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If You read http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/naylor/ERAM0811/#/26 than you'll see Kevin just paid same price to the widow of former owner
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Originally Posted by Cate.tv View Post
If You read http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/naylor/ERAM0811/#/26 than you'll see Kevin just paid same price to the widow of former owner
Once again we confuse domain sales with a business acquisition.
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$5 million includes 78,000 daily pageviews and 400,000 subscribers
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There are exceptions to every rule but for the vast majority of names, including tv.com geos, I think one can find a sweet spot to put 'TV' anywhere in a domain name.

Personally, putting it after the dot is now my last resort... as I prefer to brand the name, not the dot or the extension.



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For the American market?
I agree nost of the time.

For the rest of the world? Sometimes but not GEOs.

Madrid.TV makes sense globally.
MadridTV.com does less so.
MadridTV.es does in the middle.

I believe (no real evidence but casual observation) that a german site would rather be on keyword-tv.de than keyword.tv or keywordtv.de and would barely consider keywordtv.com at all.

But it works the other way too:

AsSeenOn.TV would be FAR inferior to AsSeenOnTV.com in my opinion because the .TV makes it a hack. A good hack, but a hack nonetheless.

The one thing I would say is that a TV.COM really has to be more TV specific than a .TV in my mind. I don't know why - it's just a personal feeling. .TV is more generic media/tv in my mind than TV.com which is VERY specific to a channelization. Maybe thats just me. Probably is.

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Once again we confuse domain sales with a business acquisition.

$5 million includes 78,000 daily pageviews and 400,000 subscribers

In this case, the buyer paid a widow exactly what her late husband paid for the domain name... who the buyer knew and respected.

Had this been a pure business acquisition, and assuming the widow was even aware of the sites stats, she likely would have asked for more.
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Once again we confuse domain sales with a business acquisition.

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$5 million includes 78,000 daily pageviews and 400,000 subscribers
Domain sale is part of the business of course dear - no confusion here
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Domain sale is part of the business of course dear - no confusion here
Poor quoting on my part - I was just intending to refer to the link contents. I didn't meant to imply you
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Just a general domain forum issue with people saying domain.tld sold for $x when the domain just was part of the deal (and not necessarily the most valiuable piece of it).
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