Thuringia - Germany

xman · 08-05-2008, 09:17 AM

I just acquired this geo recently and wants to know what you guys think.

I am please to get this geo-name especially for the price I paid for.

Thuringia is one of the German state that has a population of 2,293,000

Here's the link in Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuringia

gutsnglory · 08-05-2008, 01:36 PM

Congrats. nice name.

.tv · 08-05-2008, 01:58 PM

Mate,
You've got a nice name! Congrats.

BTW, the German name of this state Thüringen.TV was regged on March 2008.

henniemeijer · 08-05-2008, 02:05 PM

I assume you realize that the Germans call it:Thüringen and also in countries next to it, like The Netherlands, people would not even have an idea that you are talking about the same State,no matter how obvious it may look.
I am not German so I do not know what percentage of the Germans know, I assume almost all,but someone from Germany can help you there.
Munich,Cologne and some others are well known for having different names in German and English,I wonder about this one.
Next possible way of spelling is Thueringen.
Google results will show popularity of each.So you have some leakage.

Jimbojimbo · 08-05-2008, 02:13 PM

I bought Thuringen TV.com but there is also the version with umlauts (I can be botheredexplaing what they are), then there is the version that uses a US keyboard for the spelling (using 'ue' instead of umlauts) and puts thueringen - and then of course there is the old English spelling of Thuringia.

Yes, its an Ok name, but few Germans would know what it meant. It would be a bit like a Frenchman insisting that London was actually Londres, not London - and then realising the local spelling was XX-456LONDON-XX or LONDONO.

I hope that made sense. When I meet an umlaut these days I just bypass the name - its easier.

xman · 08-05-2008, 06:33 PM

Thanks for all the feedbacks

For $17.99 I'll take my chance.

Would it make sense let say targeting US visitors going to Thueringen?

Another question I have is...if I would get another name in Europe should I stick with English or the native.

For instance in France a place called Corse and in English it called Corsica, which do you guys is better.

I've been trying to figure out all these spellings in Native vs in English is sure giving me a headache.

henniemeijer · 08-06-2008, 04:24 AM

It depends what you want with a website.You have to think about who you would target. If you just buy the domain with no plan behind it, so you want to sell it again, you should try the local spelling and extension,though local spelling and .com is ok good as well. Third would come the English spelling with the .com extensionand fourth the english spelling with the local extension.
Cities with reading signs and english and local names are a problem apart as if people want a website they have too many alternatives which should diminish the value:
eg munchen/muenchen/münchen/munich all .com and .de gives 8 names.

Corse/Corsica is a special case. 90 % of the people consider themselves Corse and not French and the spoken language is not just a French dialect,but is more related to Latin.

As for Thuringen: I would think non-Germans would consider looking at cities rather than states. Germans would look at States as well, hence for states I would take the local spelling and extension.

There are so many cities all over europe( africa/asia) with different possibilities of spelling them, you really want to think twice before picking those geo's.

xman · 08-06-2008, 07:24 AM

henniemeijer your explanation was well executed and I do I appreciate the effort.

I am just now looking for a different venue in geo niche and I do normally think twice before acquiring any name and you really made me understand about different variations in terms of naming convention. Whether Thuringia.TV was a good acquisition for $17.99 it is well worth already based on the knowledge I have gained so far.

Would you mind putting these in order based on value?
"munchen/muenchen/münchen/munich all .com and .de gives 8 names"

To show my appreciation I could put your site in my sig to promote it. I normally don't do this but that's the least I could do for food for thought. (Mod please let me know if this is allowed.)

.tv · 08-06-2008, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xman

Would you mind putting these in order based on value?
"munchen/muenchen/münchen/munich all .com and .de gives 8 names"

Domains with umlauts in local extension do very well.

My first list is based on local search statistics. This order is applicable to German market.

1.münchen.de
2.münchen.com
3.muenchen.de
4.muenchen.com
5.Munich.com
6.Munich.de

Munchen - Not a word, and hence it has no value.

My second list is based on International search statistics.

1.Munich.com
2.Munich.de

90% of the Non-German speaking people do not even realize muenchen and münchen. So registering the umlaut or the umlaut equivalent names is nothing but wasting money.

I hope this helps!

henniemeijer · 08-06-2008, 08:46 AM

hoi xman,

I can give it a try, but it has a lot more value if a German would do this. I do speak German, but what happens on the internet is too specific.
I assume some np member from Germany will react.
If nobody reacts within a few days, please get back to me and I will ask it in some German domainersforum.
My guess would be that Germans look in this order:
(note the e replaces the " sign on the u or o when applicable for people who do not have a German keyboard and do not know the ctrl replacement for it)
extra note for Belgian cities:some have three names,1 French,1 English and 1 Dutch as 50% speaks of the population speaks Dutch as their first language and 50% speaks French e.g Brussels-Brussel(Dutch)-Bruxelles(fr),still look similar
Like following roadsigns?
Driving trough Belgium going to Lille in France you will see signs Rijssel and Lille,which in fact is the same city,but nobody explains and they often do not get mentioned at the same signs.
or Luik-Lüttich(german 5% population)-Liege getting mixed up as it is the same city.

münchen.de
muenchen.de
münchen.com
muenchen.com
munich.com
munich.de
munchen.de
munchen.com
münich.de(bonus

)
münich.com

"90% of the Non-German speaking people do not even realize muenchen and münchen. So registering the umlaut or the umlaut equivalent names is nothing but wasting money."

true if you only aim for international searches on the internet.I assume still more Germans would type in/search for muenchen on the internet than english speaking people.Just a different niche.

You just have to know whether you want to build a website for longterm use or rather sell a domain.
If you want to sell a domain , the local way of spelling and extension should have the highest value as the enduser is more than likely aiming for German customers, unless you are talking about a tourist resort.

xman · 08-06-2008, 10:06 AM

.TV thanks and yes your feedback helps a lot.

henniemeijer again thanks for the quality feedback.

Now I have better understanding of naming convention in Germany.

Again, thank you both

henniemeijer · 08-10-2008, 05:51 AM

just found this at wikipedia: different names for the same european cities in different languages by letter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_o...nguages:_M-P#M

08-05-2008, 09:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
xman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 2,583 2,375.00 NP$ (Donate)	Thuringia - Germany I just acquired this geo recently and wants to know what you guys think. I am please to get this geo-name especially for the price I paid for. Thuringia is one of the German state that has a population of 2,293,000 Here's the link in Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuringia __________________ Sc.am My newly developed mini-site: Bru.sh

08-05-2008, 01:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
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08-05-2008, 02:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
henniemeijer NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Deventer Netherlands Posts: 416 770.00 NP$ (Donate)	I assume you realize that the Germans call it:Thüringen and also in countries next to it, like The Netherlands, people would not even have an idea that you are talking about the same State,no matter how obvious it may look. I am not German so I do not know what percentage of the Germans know, I assume almost all,but someone from Germany can help you there. Munich,Cologne and some others are well known for having different names in German and English,I wonder about this one. Next possible way of spelling is Thueringen. Google results will show popularity of each.So you have some leakage. __________________ AlarmSystemHome.com DomainingMicroBlog.com EmtBasicTraining.com BikerMicroBlog.com Last edited by henniemeijer; 08-05-2008 at 02:08 PM.

08-05-2008, 06:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
xman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 2,583 2,375.00 NP$ (Donate)	Thanks for all the feedbacks For $17.99 I'll take my chance. Would it make sense let say targeting US visitors going to Thueringen? Another question I have is...if I would get another name in Europe should I stick with English or the native. For instance in France a place called Corse and in English it called Corsica, which do you guys is better. I've been trying to figure out all these spellings in Native vs in English is sure giving me a headache. __________________ Sc.am My newly developed mini-site: Bru.sh

08-05-2008, 02:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jimbojimbo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,547 35.00 NP$ (Donate)	I bought Thuringen TV.com but there is also the version with umlauts (I can be botheredexplaing what they are), then there is the version that uses a US keyboard for the spelling (using 'ue' instead of umlauts) and puts thueringen - and then of course there is the old English spelling of Thuringia. Yes, its an Ok name, but few Germans would know what it meant. It would be a bit like a Frenchman insisting that London was actually Londres, not London - and then realising the local spelling was XX-456LONDON-XX or LONDONO. I hope that made sense. When I meet an umlaut these days I just bypass the name - its easier.

08-06-2008, 04:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
henniemeijer NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Deventer Netherlands Posts: 416 770.00 NP$ (Donate)	It depends what you want with a website.You have to think about who you would target. If you just buy the domain with no plan behind it, so you want to sell it again, you should try the local spelling and extension,though local spelling and .com is ok good as well. Third would come the English spelling with the .com extensionand fourth the english spelling with the local extension. Cities with reading signs and english and local names are a problem apart as if people want a website they have too many alternatives which should diminish the value: eg munchen/muenchen/münchen/munich all .com and .de gives 8 names. Corse/Corsica is a special case. 90 % of the people consider themselves Corse and not French and the spoken language is not just a French dialect,but is more related to Latin. As for Thuringen: I would think non-Germans would consider looking at cities rather than states. Germans would look at States as well, hence for states I would take the local spelling and extension. There are so many cities all over europe( africa/asia) with different possibilities of spelling them, you really want to think twice before picking those geo's. __________________ AlarmSystemHome.com DomainingMicroBlog.com EmtBasicTraining.com BikerMicroBlog.com

08-06-2008, 07:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
xman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 2,583 2,375.00 NP$ (Donate)	henniemeijer your explanation was well executed and I do I appreciate the effort. I am just now looking for a different venue in geo niche and I do normally think twice before acquiring any name and you really made me understand about different variations in terms of naming convention. Whether Thuringia.TV was a good acquisition for $17.99 it is well worth already based on the knowledge I have gained so far. Would you mind putting these in order based on value? "munchen/muenchen/münchen/munich all .com and .de gives 8 names" To show my appreciation I could put your site in my sig to promote it. I normally don't do this but that's the least I could do for food for thought. (Mod please let me know if this is allowed.) __________________ Sc.am My newly developed mini-site: Bru.sh

08-06-2008, 08:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
henniemeijer NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Deventer Netherlands Posts: 416 770.00 NP$ (Donate)	hoi xman, I can give it a try, but it has a lot more value if a German would do this. I do speak German, but what happens on the internet is too specific. I assume some np member from Germany will react. If nobody reacts within a few days, please get back to me and I will ask it in some German domainersforum. My guess would be that Germans look in this order: (note the e replaces the " sign on the u or o when applicable for people who do not have a German keyboard and do not know the ctrl replacement for it) extra note for Belgian cities:some have three names,1 French,1 English and 1 Dutch as 50% speaks of the population speaks Dutch as their first language and 50% speaks French e.g Brussels-Brussel(Dutch)-Bruxelles(fr),still look similar Like following roadsigns? Driving trough Belgium going to Lille in France you will see signs Rijssel and Lille,which in fact is the same city,but nobody explains and they often do not get mentioned at the same signs. or Luik-Lüttich(german 5% population)-Liege getting mixed up as it is the same city. münchen.de muenchen.de münchen.com muenchen.com munich.com munich.de munchen.de munchen.com münich.de(bonus) münich.com "90% of the Non-German speaking people do not even realize muenchen and münchen. So registering the umlaut or the umlaut equivalent names is nothing but wasting money." true if you only aim for international searches on the internet.I assume still more Germans would type in/search for muenchen on the internet than english speaking people.Just a different niche. You just have to know whether you want to build a website for longterm use or rather sell a domain. If you want to sell a domain , the local way of spelling and extension should have the highest value as the enduser is more than likely aiming for German customers, unless you are talking about a tourist resort. __________________ AlarmSystemHome.com DomainingMicroBlog.com EmtBasicTraining.com BikerMicroBlog.com

08-06-2008, 10:06 AM	#11 (permalink)
xman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 2,583 2,375.00 NP$ (Donate)	.TV thanks and yes your feedback helps a lot. henniemeijer again thanks for the quality feedback. Now I have better understanding of naming convention in Germany. Again, thank you both __________________ Sc.am My newly developed mini-site: Bru.sh

08-10-2008, 05:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
henniemeijer NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Deventer Netherlands Posts: 416 770.00 NP$ (Donate)	just found this at wikipedia: different names for the same european cities in different languages by letter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_o...nguages:_M-P#M __________________ AlarmSystemHome.com DomainingMicroBlog.com EmtBasicTraining.com BikerMicroBlog.com

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