get a coffee and read my thoughts, major news i am thinking, schilling, .tv, allianc

jeffoverman · 09-16-2007, 02:19 AM

Channel.tv buys national.tv early in the game due to there names

Top geo domainers and city owners form either an LLC together and they pull out all of there names together and be all one company for traffic to compete against a channel.tv. Makes perfect s
ense they do this early.

The smaller independents will have to be very smart and we create our own alliance like myself

Frank schilling even though is mainly a dot com and net guy, he realizes the future of going .tv when it forms and jumps inn when it shows higher useage.

Another frank thought, I listened on
his recent speech and he wants to grow like mad. An amazing domainer, makes his 20 million on his domains. He has the reputation and contacts to either team up with another top domainer which I don't really see and more unlikely then my best thought and its this below.

Why not gather up his 300,000 names to be customized vs your typical ppc. He dumps the parking company, that parking company files chapter 11 after this big hit, he forms his own revenue stream and creates his own ad network. So say his rumcakes.com earns .50 cents a click, why not do your own ads, create your own brand of users and he has the 20 million traffic coming in each month. So many options he can do and he all ready hinted on how all of this domains hit one central domain for content. Makes sense people.

He will need the .tv eventually. I think he is just watching the trends, brainstorming, talking to couple of his close contacts and keeping things hush but I bet you he will make a huge move and that 20 million will be worth 60 million a year. 1. He earns more per click on his own ad network or bidding system. 2. He offers value to the advertiser and charges less then a google due to him not being google but I bet the click throughs, sales for his customers then google per user. I am not saying frank will be a yahoo or a google. 3. This is my best thought and noticed on his blog he added aron wall recently I believe. Not 100 percent sure but I believe he did this recently during or after his 3 month vacation. Aron is the best seo guy in the world. Seobook.com and frank can say aron, here is 5 million dollars for 3 year contract, exclusive and you work for me. He said he wants to explore seo and why not drop the money and hire the best
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Does frank really want all these challenges, new headaches, creating an even bigger empire, less sun in the caymans and a lot more stress, and dealing with a marriage factors. I believe he does want all this, he has the power to make this work and money and domains.

I bet he is thinking how do I become a major player and have my picture on business 2.0 vs Kevin ham?? He really does seem like a down to earth person, he seems as if he likes to brag some on his limo,took a breath during his speech and said he made a 100 bucks just now. He wants to control his own thing I bet and challenge himself. He kicks back now, has workers I heard, parking companies does the bulk of his creating and development and he sits back and colllects vs going solo, dumps his yahoo feeds and parking companies. If that happens, or hear this I will be the first one to either short yahoo on a huge loss or do puts on yahoo.

Far fetched?? I admit it is but to me the above comments makes perfect sense for me, small domainers, the top geo domainers in tv and form all one. Means less money then going solo and deal with everyones ego, I'm right, he wrong comments, power trips, more headaches but deep down I do see this happening.

The smart money has been coming inn all ready. That's not new. .tv is early and people are betting it will succeed. I am all ready saying it will and I admit I am late in the .tv but have my gems and see my visions some. With the myspace founder, his history, success and etc he wants to cruch the face book or myspace format and create the next big thing through video, tv, blogging video. Crushing myspace I don't see a problem with, facebook I do and be tough.there 2 different types of social networks basically. Notice I don't use web 2.0. It will be a very old name in couple years. That's my prediction and I have a lot of names around this.
So frank, do this soon and run for the fences. You seem very loyal to the web and promise. Make the jump into .tv because your going need to this with my prediction and dump the boring ppc, park company and take things solo. If you read this, don't show this to your wife unless she is really supporting and say go for it. Women tend to over react in many ways. Don't mean to offend any women here, as guys drive you nuts and our sports

Just my thoughts and analizations on things. I just been reading a lot. Frank one day I would love to meet you. Your speech was inspiring for me. I love my rum cakes as well so I grabbed the last extension open which was mobi, own .com names now and my best name is cheesecakes.tv and spend a shit load each year on both.

We all have downside risks and face challenges everyday. To beat out the really deep pockets domainers, forming and creating one company will surly help us. Less money go around but more fun and more volume. Downside risks as well. Far fetch, sure it is but there will be a major shake out within a year I bet and google is beginning piss people off EBay, porn business, click fraud, privacy and etc.

J

equity78 · 09-16-2007, 02:57 AM

Frank Schilling has stated over and over no interest in .tv to say anything to the contrary is pure propaganda IMO

From SevenMile.com

Frank,

The countries which I have in mind are African. I was thinking of getting the .TV. Would you recommend me to get it as it has 3 words in them? Is that too long?

Thanks

Charley

***FS*** I'd avoid the tv Charley.. That's not a "cctld of the country people are in". It's a novelty extension

Posted by: Charley | June 07, 2007 at 10:18 AM

jeffoverman · 09-16-2007, 03:02 AM

As I stated he a .com and .net guy. However I think he will need to enter .tv market if he wants to do the things which I think he will.

J

equity78 · 09-16-2007, 03:04 AM

Frank is concerned with traffic which there is little, and making $20 Million a year I think he doing everything right.

jeffoverman · 09-16-2007, 03:10 AM

He has hinted seo, he has hinted in one main site and direct things. I took it the next level.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560

Why earn .50 cents with rum cake clicks for example when he can earn .80 cents a click, advertiser pays frank direct and generate a happier customer of ads, traffic, more sales to him and the advertiser

I honestly think this will happen. He hinted parts of it all ready.

So .tv issues, know he loves that ppc but if he does what I think he will he will need to buy .tv names. I just think he is watching things carefully and trends. Why not form some more .tv sites with his portfolio, run video ads and be media force with video and etc.

My views are on this seem right on, maybe not the dot tv as much but all the other stuff will probably occur.

I agree completly equity. Frank is the second best next to ham.

He just said he wants to grow fast and this will do it and views

I don't want this create all frank forum.

Frank, alliances, dot tv and etc.

Thanks for inputs.

J

I look forward to read comments when I wake up later.

Maybe I will get couple people agree. Know it sounds far in left field but I see this common sense and new direction.

*RPK* · 09-17-2007, 05:11 AM

Just for the record, he can never be on the cover of Business 2.0 since it no longer exists. Too bad, it was one of my favorites

equity78 · 09-17-2007, 05:13 AM

Actually thread was brought up on Frank's blog some commie read it here and Frank responded

Frank some [people] at the .tv forum on Namepros keep these nonsense rumors going that you are either buying .tv domains or are waiting to buy. I have read you here saying you have no interest. Can you say if you are interested in .tv.

I mean check out this one .. he posted a whole thread about you

http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv-appra...ml#post2202132

***FS*** I am not planning on loading up on .tv names. I know some folks have done very well with alternative non-cctld extensions and wish those folks well.. I just think it's a more difficult road to take because only the biggest names get decent traffic and the registry's pricing track record on certain tld's makes it hard to make a sfe buck.

Posted by: commer | September 16, 2007 at 05:33 AM

Nice to know .commies reading .tv subforum and feel the need to post on Frank Schillings Blog.

*RPK* · 09-17-2007, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by equity78

Actually thread was brought up on Frank's blog some commie read it here and Frank responded

Frank some [people] at the .tv forum on Namepros keep these nonsense rumors going that you are either buying .tv domains or are waiting to buy. I have read you here saying you have no interest. Can you say if you are interested in .tv.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560

I mean check out this one .. he posted a whole thread about you

http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv-appra...ml#post2202132

***FS*** I am not planning on loading up on .tv names. I know some folks have done very well with alternative non-cctld extensions and wish those folks well.. I just think it's a more difficult road to take because only the biggest names get decent traffic and the registry's pricing track record on certain tld's makes it hard to make a sfe buck.

Posted by: commer | September 16, 2007 at 05:33 AM

Nice find Equity, and Jeff, Frank now knows you exist! Congrads

RogueWriter · 09-17-2007, 07:00 AM

Eh, if I was making the kind of money he is making, I would certainly not spell out what my future plans are. If he says, "Man, I'm thinking on getting into product related .tv domains" there will be a flurry of purchasing/domain pricing hikes, with a couple hundred people planning on becoming the next 'him'.

He may be as open and honest as he can on his blog, but that doesn't mean he is going to hand over his business interests to others. It is simply not in his interest to say 'never' regarding .TV, and not in his interest to say 'right now'.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560

If we have our own well thought out plan for acquiring and monitizing our .TV domains, what other's plans are should have a minimal impact on our business model.

SKG · 09-17-2007, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by equity78

Actually thread was brought up on Frank's blog some commie read it here and Frank responded

Frank some [people] at the .tv forum on Namepros keep these nonsense rumors going that you are either buying .tv domains or are waiting to buy. I have read you here saying you have no interest. Can you say if you are interested in .tv.

I mean check out this one .. he posted a whole thread about you

http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv-appra...ml#post2202132

***FS*** I am not planning on loading up on .tv names. I know some folks have done very well with alternative non-cctld extensions and wish those folks well.. I just think it's a more difficult road to take because only the biggest names get decent traffic and the registry's pricing track record on certain tld's makes it hard to make a sfe buck.

Posted by: commer | September 16, 2007 at 05:33 AM

Nice to know .commies reading .tv subforum and feel the need to post on Frank Schillings Blog.

Frank's statement is rather interesting:

"***FS*** I am not planning on loading up on .tv names. I know some folks have done very well with alternative non-cctld extensions and wish those folks well.. I just think it's a more difficult road to take because only the biggest names get decent traffic and the registry's pricing track record on certain tld's makes it hard to make a sfe buck."

When I read this my interpretation is that he is saying he is not "loading up on .tv names" which means he might be buying but just not in crazy amounts. Also, what does "loading up" actually mean? If a person has the capacity to purchase 6 domains then owning 3 .tv would mean to me that is loading up. If a person has a 300,000 domain name portfolio then to own 300 .tv names is not "loading up." Again, just the way I am reading it. It could just as well mean Frank cares not one iota about .TV as well.

equity78 · 09-17-2007, 07:43 AM

I tried to give Frank Cayman-Islands.tv for free he said thank you but no thank you I have no interest in .tv. Please stop offering it

RW you are right on IMO others plans mean nothing just your own ideas and domains too many times people are reading propaganda and another month goes by no development for the domains they already own.

CarryOn · 09-17-2007, 07:47 AM

Interesting musings – and more interesting that it gets noticed and commented on via Frank’s blog.

Originally Posted by RogueWriter

Eh, if I was making the kind of money he is making, I would certainly not spell out what my future plans are. If he says, "Man, I'm thinking on getting into product related .tv domains" there will be a flurry of purchasing/domain pricing hikes, with a couple hundred people planning on becoming the next 'him'.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560

He may be as open and honest as he can on his blog, but that doesn't mean he is going to hand over his business interests to others. It is simply not in his interest to say 'never' regarding .TV, and not in his interest to say 'right now'.

If we have our own well thought out plan for acquiring and monitizing our .TV domains, what other's plans are should have a minimal impact on our business model.

Rogue, good points and I agree. I would even take this one step further – it is strongly in Frank’s interest to promote .com to the exclusion of other extensions. To do otherwise would be foolhardy. I doubt we will ever know his real thoughts, even if he pleaded otherwise. He is holding multiple royal flushes, why would he want to help influence the alteration of the rules mid game?

I also found his response comments interesting – they certainly don’t seem to be quite as negative as earlier comments – but of course that could be my imagination, RE my comment above - we’ll never know. But perhaps others among his inner circle are “loading up”?

SKG · 09-17-2007, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by equity78

I tried to give Frank Cayman-Islands.tv for free he said thank you but no thank you I have no interest in .tv. Please stop offering it
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560

RW you are right on IMO others plans mean nothing just your own ideas and domains too many times people are reading propaganda and another month goes by no development for the domains they already own.

Well if he would not take Cayman-Islands.tv not even for free then I would have to agree that he has no interest in .TV

Truth be told though, if I were in his position owning all that he owns in .com and the income he is generating I would do everything possible to protect my investment.

DomainBuyerBroker · 09-17-2007, 07:55 AM

Whether Frank is buying or not does not affect the value of .tv one bit.

Frank does not develop nor promote his domains so who cares if he owns 1, 100 or 1000?

Frank wants type in traffic. .tv doesn't enjoy the mindset to have the kind of type ins Frank wants.

If and when he is ready, he'll buy them in the drops. He does not buy domains from domain owners to the best of my knowledge.

So, I'd forget whether Frank owns .tv domains or not and keep developing your own.

discovernow · 09-17-2007, 08:25 AM

What Frank thinks has 0 determination on the future of .tv names. Even though he does well , so did IBM when they told Bill Gates 20+ years ago that the money is in hardware and not in software. I guess they were wrong. Look at future trends and ignore what people say based on the past.

antonis12 · 09-17-2007, 08:54 AM

this does not matter either way. there are plenty of opportunities to make money in .tv or .com or whatever floats your boat.
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focusing too much on whether we can convince frank schilling of .tv's value (when he has a completely different and totally successful model of success), just shows some insecurity on our part. i don't mean that comment personally against anyone, just in general for the .tv folks.

i mean how many times do we have to rhetorically ask Frank "will you please love .tv?" lol.

it just does not matter. he is just one guy...if .tv works, then he can't stop it. if it doesn't work, he can't make it work.

.tv is going to win or lose based on PUBLIC not DOMAINEER acceptance.

If the public starts to use it and type it in and end-users want to brand their sites with it, then the names will have value. If not, then resales are just a shell game between domaineers....

So focus your efforts on development and promotion to the public, not to the domain community.

just my 2 cents.

thanks!

equity78 · 09-17-2007, 09:20 AM

I agree Antonis I have always said I could care less who likes .tv in the domainer community its how this sub forum started by saying who cares .tv sucks absolutely stay away go buy a 4 word .com forget about .tv

virtuali · 09-17-2007, 09:33 AM

This conversation is for those that are waiting for the large payoff for a .tv domain. Those waiting for that will be waiting the next 5+ years to see anything remotely close to .com sales or any significant type in traffic.

Development is key for any extension to gain momentum, .tv has a one up because it relates well to the video medium but unless people embrace that it is just another extension.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560

Who really cares what another domainer does... If you are invested in .tv it is what you do now that will affect you down the road. It is the same principle that Kevin Ham and Frank both had.. they had a vision of what the future holds. There is others on this board that have just as much promise as these guys in a few years. Its all in what you visualize. IMO.

*RPK* · 09-17-2007, 09:53 AM

Last I looked, Richard Rosenblatt makes and has made a lot more then Frank.

equity78 · 09-17-2007, 10:03 AM

Not as a domainer

Be fair Myspace was around before he came to Intermix

RogueWriter · 09-17-2007, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by equity78

.... its how this sub forum started by saying who cares .tv sucks absolutely stay away go buy a 4 word .com forget about .tv

LOL, I love your subtlety, EQ,

.

localexperts · 09-17-2007, 11:21 AM

"Top geo domainers and city owners form either an LLC together and they pull out all of there names together and be all one company for traffic to compete against a channel.tv. Makes perfect s
ense they do this early. "

If they were all owned by domainers or individuals...possibly, but considering that two companies (Landmark Communications and LocalExperts.com) own alot of GEO.TV, this will not be a global effort. Even Associated Cities doesn't have every GEO.COM.

Landmark has Atlanta.tv, Seattle.tv, Tampa.tv, Baltimore.tv, Richmond.tv HamptonRoads.tv, LittleRock.tv, Memphis.tv, Syracuse.tv, and Buffalo.tv

The GEO.TV owned by individuals or early stage startups are already aligning.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560

The key thing is traffic. How will any GEO .TV owner get traffic. That is the key.

jeffoverman · 09-17-2007, 11:22 PM

Hi

I just read all the posts and responses to my orginal thoughts on things.

Since I am a mobi reader and not in the office right now I can't read Franks website fully so I will jump on when I get in

I feel honored in being on Franks blog first of all and thanks in passing word on this.

I had orginally attended to get peoples thoughts on more then frank schilling and .tv issues. I knew he went on record he is dot com guy and net.

The main factor is my view point in why use parking companies, hire the best seo guy in the world aron wall and have more fun on things. Be creative, form his own advertising dollars and he went on record he wants to grow. Well, in my view if he were to do this, which I am sure he is thinking this way, he will be making 60 million to 100 million by his well known names, generate a loyal user base and etc. I know its not easy but he has the pockets, contacts like mr wall to do this and etc. Would really shock the parking industry, I just think he loves the business and he seems creative and very intelligent just by listening to his speech one time. Actually listened to it 3 times afterwards.

The dot tv issue factor that's his thoughts and brillant mind set. He is right dot com and buying a good domain name with traffic for new people like myself. I have diff views and love the .tv area and I have the patience for 5 years and the foreign country codes.

We shall see on all of this and where frank goes from here. Again all I know is that he knows his stuff and I am sure he is heavily thinking on my views now and generate his own network and take it to the next level. There are risks. Every day has risks. You could be crossing the street and get hit by a car.

Maybe next year I will attend a confrence.

By then I am predicting frank and aron has teamed up, customized sites, direct payments from his network adds, his 20 million vistors turns into 30 million vistors vs parked companies. If this happens, 1 parking company a will probably be bankrupt and loss of jobs due to his names and traffics, 2. Yahoo be even worse off and damper position. I will be shorting yahoo when this happens.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560

We shall see. Think its a 75 to 90 percent chance on this. He likes challenges. He has enough money to do this, and I would be very shocked if he sells out. Think he would get bored and loves his work.

Frank, even though I have never met you I apologize if this is causing a rumor mill around .tv factors and what I am dying for you to do. Go after your ambitions, chase it and after you make the move please send me a rum cake lol. Sorry had to come out. When you form your own network, I will even give you rumcakes.mobi on the house. That's all you and I love my rum cakes. I will keep the cheaprumcakes.com. Maybe one day we will cross paths at a confrence, I will buy you a beer if you can spare 20 minutes with a rookie and surly not in your league.

I guess we have to start off some where. That somewhere is where I am at in my life.

Cheers everyone and keep up the amazing work frank. Ps...if you do this, let me know so I can short yahoo. Parking company a will be history, lost jobs but with frank doing 50 to 100 million vistors and doubling his ppc if not tripling it he will be hire workers so he and his wife can keep things going as if he was at a ppc parked company sitting back collecting money.

J

The big boys keep getting bigger and bigger

No one is commenting on partnerships. Frank was a piece of thought. That's his views. A lot of amazing comments above.
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Enough on frank. My views and etc will shake up the whole industry I believe and a fall out between parking companies will fall out as well as people form there own direct channels. Customization

There are some major players here and holding some prime land. Geo city terms. Think they are on the sidelines. Talks are happening.

Analogy. In the 80s, early 90s there were thouands of independent office products companies around. Still some around but maybe half are still around. Office depot, max, staples and others and the mom and pop outfits went belly up due to price points, deep pockets, more and more companies competing.

Well folks that's where the domain business is headed.

In order to compete and traffic and new technolgies there will be some major consolidation. That's where I am saying the major geo owners form one group, people like me form our own group so we can compete. Maybe I am using the wrong term compete but we are all one group but consolidation will occur and people like me will have a tougher time in this business due to portfolio size.

Just thoughts. I am going continue to be a buyer of tv names and extensions. Just one persons thoughts but he didn't seem as neg on tv vs a year ago

He mentions price points, they are rich. Just like buying a plasm tv, couple years after there cheaper then a reg tv almost. .tv will be in that position. Versign probably is keeping prices high keep the flood slower growth and ease the amount of buying. Slow and steady growth vs all buying, then a crash comes.

***AllThings.tv*** · 09-18-2007, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by equity78

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560
***FS*** I am not planning on loading up on .tv names.

That would suggest he is not opposed to picking up SOME names he feels are worth their weight in gold. Of course, this interpretation completely takes what he says out of context, but Frank knows he is responsible for guiding people. He would not ruin his reputation suggesting that people make a bet he feels is risky. He will continue to push people down the conservative, tried and true path.

Until .tv is advertised on national television and there are several successful .tv sites, guys like Frank cannot recommend .tv until it has a proven track record and TRAFFIC.

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jeffoverman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,348	get a coffee and read my thoughts, major news i am thinking, schilling, .tv, allianc Channel.tv buys national.tv early in the game due to there names Top geo domainers and city owners form either an LLC together and they pull out all of there names together and be all one company for traffic to compete against a channel.tv. Makes perfect s ense they do this early. The smaller independents will have to be very smart and we create our own alliance like myself Frank schilling even though is mainly a dot com and net guy, he realizes the future of going .tv when it forms and jumps inn when it shows higher useage. Another frank thought, I listened on his recent speech and he wants to grow like mad. An amazing domainer, makes his 20 million on his domains. He has the reputation and contacts to either team up with another top domainer which I don't really see and more unlikely then my best thought and its this below. Why not gather up his 300,000 names to be customized vs your typical ppc. He dumps the parking company, that parking company files chapter 11 after this big hit, he forms his own revenue stream and creates his own ad network. So say his rumcakes.com earns .50 cents a click, why not do your own ads, create your own brand of users and he has the 20 million traffic coming in each month. So many options he can do and he all ready hinted on how all of this domains hit one central domain for content. Makes sense people. He will need the .tv eventually. I think he is just watching the trends, brainstorming, talking to couple of his close contacts and keeping things hush but I bet you he will make a huge move and that 20 million will be worth 60 million a year. 1. He earns more per click on his own ad network or bidding system. 2. He offers value to the advertiser and charges less then a google due to him not being google but I bet the click throughs, sales for his customers then google per user. I am not saying frank will be a yahoo or a google. 3. This is my best thought and noticed on his blog he added aron wall recently I believe. Not 100 percent sure but I believe he did this recently during or after his 3 month vacation. Aron is the best seo guy in the world. Seobook.com and frank can say aron, here is 5 million dollars for 3 year contract, exclusive and you work for me. He said he wants to explore seo and why not drop the money and hire the best ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv-appraisals-industry-news/374560-get-coffee-read-my-thoughts-major.html ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560 Does frank really want all these challenges, new headaches, creating an even bigger empire, less sun in the caymans and a lot more stress, and dealing with a marriage factors. I believe he does want all this, he has the power to make this work and money and domains. I bet he is thinking how do I become a major player and have my picture on business 2.0 vs Kevin ham?? He really does seem like a down to earth person, he seems as if he likes to brag some on his limo,took a breath during his speech and said he made a 100 bucks just now. He wants to control his own thing I bet and challenge himself. He kicks back now, has workers I heard, parking companies does the bulk of his creating and development and he sits back and colllects vs going solo, dumps his yahoo feeds and parking companies. If that happens, or hear this I will be the first one to either short yahoo on a huge loss or do puts on yahoo. Far fetched?? I admit it is but to me the above comments makes perfect sense for me, small domainers, the top geo domainers in tv and form all one. Means less money then going solo and deal with everyones ego, I'm right, he wrong comments, power trips, more headaches but deep down I do see this happening. The smart money has been coming inn all ready. That's not new. .tv is early and people are betting it will succeed. I am all ready saying it will and I admit I am late in the .tv but have my gems and see my visions some. With the myspace founder, his history, success and etc he wants to cruch the face book or myspace format and create the next big thing through video, tv, blogging video. Crushing myspace I don't see a problem with, facebook I do and be tough.there 2 different types of social networks basically. Notice I don't use web 2.0. It will be a very old name in couple years. That's my prediction and I have a lot of names around this. So frank, do this soon and run for the fences. You seem very loyal to the web and promise. Make the jump into .tv because your going need to this with my prediction and dump the boring ppc, park company and take things solo. If you read this, don't show this to your wife unless she is really supporting and say go for it. Women tend to over react in many ways. Don't mean to offend any women here, as guys drive you nuts and our sports Just my thoughts and analizations on things. I just been reading a lot. Frank one day I would love to meet you. Your speech was inspiring for me. I love my rum cakes as well so I grabbed the last extension open which was mobi, own .com names now and my best name is cheesecakes.tv and spend a shit load each year on both. We all have downside risks and face challenges everyday. To beat out the really deep pockets domainers, forming and creating one company will surly help us. Less money go around but more fun and more volume. Downside risks as well. Far fetch, sure it is but there will be a major shake out within a year I bet and google is beginning piss people off EBay, porn business, click fraud, privacy and etc. J

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equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	Frank Schilling has stated over and over no interest in .tv to say anything to the contrary is pure propaganda IMO From SevenMile.com Frank, The countries which I have in mind are African. I was thinking of getting the .TV. Would you recommend me to get it as it has 3 words in them? Is that too long? Thanks Charley *FS* I'd avoid the tv Charley.. That's not a "cctld of the country people are in". It's a novelty extension Posted by: Charley \| June 07, 2007 at 10:18 AM __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

09-16-2007, 03:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	Frank is concerned with traffic which there is little, and making $20 Million a year I think he doing everything right. __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

09-17-2007, 05:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
RPK SportsFan.me Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 3,597 Follow @sportsfanme	Just for the record, he can never be on the cover of Business 2.0 since it no longer exists. Too bad, it was one of my favorites __________________ SportsFan.me - Finally a social sports website done right! For the Serious Sports Fan

09-17-2007, 05:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	Actually thread was brought up on Frank's blog some commie read it here and Frank responded Frank some [people] at the .tv forum on Namepros keep these nonsense rumors going that you are either buying .tv domains or are waiting to buy. I have read you here saying you have no interest. Can you say if you are interested in .tv. I mean check out this one .. he posted a whole thread about you http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv-appra...ml#post2202132 *FS* I am not planning on loading up on .tv names. I know some folks have done very well with alternative non-cctld extensions and wish those folks well.. I just think it's a more difficult road to take because only the biggest names get decent traffic and the registry's pricing track record on certain tld's makes it hard to make a sfe buck. Posted by: commer \| September 16, 2007 at 05:33 AM Nice to know .commies reading .tv subforum and feel the need to post on Frank Schillings Blog. __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

09-16-2007, 03:02 AM	THREAD STARTER #3 (permalink)
jeffoverman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,348	As I stated he a .com and .net guy. However I think he will need to enter .tv market if he wants to do the things which I think he will. J

09-16-2007, 03:10 AM	THREAD STARTER #5 (permalink)
jeffoverman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,348	He has hinted seo, he has hinted in one main site and direct things. I took it the next level. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560 Why earn .50 cents with rum cake clicks for example when he can earn .80 cents a click, advertiser pays frank direct and generate a happier customer of ads, traffic, more sales to him and the advertiser I honestly think this will happen. He hinted parts of it all ready. So .tv issues, know he loves that ppc but if he does what I think he will he will need to buy .tv names. I just think he is watching things carefully and trends. Why not form some more .tv sites with his portfolio, run video ads and be media force with video and etc. My views are on this seem right on, maybe not the dot tv as much but all the other stuff will probably occur. I agree completly equity. Frank is the second best next to ham. He just said he wants to grow fast and this will do it and views I don't want this create all frank forum. Frank, alliances, dot tv and etc. Thanks for inputs. J I look forward to read comments when I wake up later. Maybe I will get couple people agree. Know it sounds far in left field but I see this common sense and new direction.

09-17-2007, 07:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
RogueWriter NamePros Expert Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Smalltown USA Posts: 5,036	Eh, if I was making the kind of money he is making, I would certainly not spell out what my future plans are. If he says, "Man, I'm thinking on getting into product related .tv domains" there will be a flurry of purchasing/domain pricing hikes, with a couple hundred people planning on becoming the next 'him'. He may be as open and honest as he can on his blog, but that doesn't mean he is going to hand over his business interests to others. It is simply not in his interest to say 'never' regarding .TV, and not in his interest to say 'right now'. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560 If we have our own well thought out plan for acquiring and monitizing our .TV domains, what other's plans are should have a minimal impact on our business model. __________________ "I'm so mean I make MEDICINE sick." -Muhammad Ali

09-17-2007, 07:43 AM	#11 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	I tried to give Frank Cayman-Islands.tv for free he said thank you but no thank you I have no interest in .tv. Please stop offering it RW you are right on IMO others plans mean nothing just your own ideas and domains too many times people are reading propaganda and another month goes by no development for the domains they already own. __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

09-17-2007, 07:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
DomainBuyerBroker NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cape Cod Mass Posts: 885	Whether Frank is buying or not does not affect the value of .tv one bit. Frank does not develop nor promote his domains so who cares if he owns 1, 100 or 1000? Frank wants type in traffic. .tv doesn't enjoy the mindset to have the kind of type ins Frank wants. If and when he is ready, he'll buy them in the drops. He does not buy domains from domain owners to the best of my knowledge. So, I'd forget whether Frank owns .tv domains or not and keep developing your own. __________________ Rob Sequin = Domain Buyer Broker

09-17-2007, 08:25 AM	#15 (permalink)
discovernow Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,502	What Frank thinks has 0 determination on the future of .tv names. Even though he does well , so did IBM when they told Bill Gates 20+ years ago that the money is in hardware and not in software. I guess they were wrong. Look at future trends and ignore what people say based on the past.

09-17-2007, 08:54 AM	#16 (permalink)
antonis12 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,007	this does not matter either way. there are plenty of opportunities to make money in .tv or .com or whatever floats your boat. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560 focusing too much on whether we can convince frank schilling of .tv's value (when he has a completely different and totally successful model of success), just shows some insecurity on our part. i don't mean that comment personally against anyone, just in general for the .tv folks. i mean how many times do we have to rhetorically ask Frank "will you please love .tv?" lol. it just does not matter. he is just one guy...if .tv works, then he can't stop it. if it doesn't work, he can't make it work. .tv is going to win or lose based on PUBLIC not DOMAINEER acceptance. If the public starts to use it and type it in and end-users want to brand their sites with it, then the names will have value. If not, then resales are just a shell game between domaineers.... So focus your efforts on development and promotion to the public, not to the domain community. just my 2 cents. thanks! __________________ www.Online.tv

09-17-2007, 09:20 AM	#17 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	I agree Antonis I have always said I could care less who likes .tv in the domainer community its how this sub forum started by saying who cares .tv sucks absolutely stay away go buy a 4 word .com forget about .tv __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

09-17-2007, 09:33 AM	#18 (permalink)
virtuali NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 404	This conversation is for those that are waiting for the large payoff for a .tv domain. Those waiting for that will be waiting the next 5+ years to see anything remotely close to .com sales or any significant type in traffic. Development is key for any extension to gain momentum, .tv has a one up because it relates well to the video medium but unless people embrace that it is just another extension. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560 Who really cares what another domainer does... If you are invested in .tv it is what you do now that will affect you down the road. It is the same principle that Kevin Ham and Frank both had.. they had a vision of what the future holds. There is others on this board that have just as much promise as these guys in a few years. Its all in what you visualize. IMO. Last edited by virtuali; 09-17-2007 at 09:45 AM.

09-17-2007, 09:53 AM	#19 (permalink)
RPK SportsFan.me Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 3,597 Follow @sportsfanme	Last I looked, Richard Rosenblatt makes and has made a lot more then Frank. __________________ SportsFan.me - Finally a social sports website done right! For the Serious Sports Fan

09-17-2007, 10:03 AM	#20 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	Not as a domainer Be fair Myspace was around before he came to Intermix __________________ Host your website with name.com and get up to $10.99 off any domain registration First Quarter 2012 5 letter.com sales report

09-17-2007, 11:21 AM	#22 (permalink)
localexperts Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: LocalExperts.com Posts: 2,094	"Top geo domainers and city owners form either an LLC together and they pull out all of there names together and be all one company for traffic to compete against a channel.tv. Makes perfect s ense they do this early. " If they were all owned by domainers or individuals...possibly, but considering that two companies (Landmark Communications and LocalExperts.com) own alot of GEO.TV, this will not be a global effort. Even Associated Cities doesn't have every GEO.COM. Landmark has Atlanta.tv, Seattle.tv, Tampa.tv, Baltimore.tv, Richmond.tv HamptonRoads.tv, LittleRock.tv, Memphis.tv, Syracuse.tv, and Buffalo.tv The GEO.TV owned by individuals or early stage startups are already aligning. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560 The key thing is traffic. How will any GEO .TV owner get traffic. That is the key. Last edited by localexperts; 09-17-2007 at 11:39 AM.

09-17-2007, 11:22 PM	THREAD STARTER #23 (permalink)
jeffoverman Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,348	i feel honored lol just read my post Hi I just read all the posts and responses to my orginal thoughts on things. Since I am a mobi reader and not in the office right now I can't read Franks website fully so I will jump on when I get in I feel honored in being on Franks blog first of all and thanks in passing word on this. I had orginally attended to get peoples thoughts on more then frank schilling and .tv issues. I knew he went on record he is dot com guy and net. The main factor is my view point in why use parking companies, hire the best seo guy in the world aron wall and have more fun on things. Be creative, form his own advertising dollars and he went on record he wants to grow. Well, in my view if he were to do this, which I am sure he is thinking this way, he will be making 60 million to 100 million by his well known names, generate a loyal user base and etc. I know its not easy but he has the pockets, contacts like mr wall to do this and etc. Would really shock the parking industry, I just think he loves the business and he seems creative and very intelligent just by listening to his speech one time. Actually listened to it 3 times afterwards. The dot tv issue factor that's his thoughts and brillant mind set. He is right dot com and buying a good domain name with traffic for new people like myself. I have diff views and love the .tv area and I have the patience for 5 years and the foreign country codes. We shall see on all of this and where frank goes from here. Again all I know is that he knows his stuff and I am sure he is heavily thinking on my views now and generate his own network and take it to the next level. There are risks. Every day has risks. You could be crossing the street and get hit by a car. Maybe next year I will attend a confrence. By then I am predicting frank and aron has teamed up, customized sites, direct payments from his network adds, his 20 million vistors turns into 30 million vistors vs parked companies. If this happens, 1 parking company a will probably be bankrupt and loss of jobs due to his names and traffics, 2. Yahoo be even worse off and damper position. I will be shorting yahoo when this happens. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560 We shall see. Think its a 75 to 90 percent chance on this. He likes challenges. He has enough money to do this, and I would be very shocked if he sells out. Think he would get bored and loves his work. Frank, even though I have never met you I apologize if this is causing a rumor mill around .tv factors and what I am dying for you to do. Go after your ambitions, chase it and after you make the move please send me a rum cake lol. Sorry had to come out. When you form your own network, I will even give you rumcakes.mobi on the house. That's all you and I love my rum cakes. I will keep the cheaprumcakes.com. Maybe one day we will cross paths at a confrence, I will buy you a beer if you can spare 20 minutes with a rookie and surly not in your league. I guess we have to start off some where. That somewhere is where I am at in my life. Cheers everyone and keep up the amazing work frank. Ps...if you do this, let me know so I can short yahoo. Parking company a will be history, lost jobs but with frank doing 50 to 100 million vistors and doubling his ppc if not tripling it he will be hire workers so he and his wife can keep things going as if he was at a ppc parked company sitting back collecting money. J The big boys keep getting bigger and bigger No one is commenting on partnerships. Frank was a piece of thought. That's his views. A lot of amazing comments above. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=374560 Enough on frank. My views and etc will shake up the whole industry I believe and a fall out between parking companies will fall out as well as people form there own direct channels. Customization There are some major players here and holding some prime land. Geo city terms. Think they are on the sidelines. Talks are happening. Analogy. In the 80s, early 90s there were thouands of independent office products companies around. Still some around but maybe half are still around. Office depot, max, staples and others and the mom and pop outfits went belly up due to price points, deep pockets, more and more companies competing. Well folks that's where the domain business is headed. In order to compete and traffic and new technolgies there will be some major consolidation. That's where I am saying the major geo owners form one group, people like me form our own group so we can compete. Maybe I am using the wrong term compete but we are all one group but consolidation will occur and people like me will have a tougher time in this business due to portfolio size. Just thoughts. I am going continue to be a buyer of tv names and extensions. Just one persons thoughts but he didn't seem as neg on tv vs a year ago He mentions price points, they are rich. Just like buying a plasm tv, couple years after there cheaper then a reg tv almost. .tv will be in that position. Versign probably is keeping prices high keep the flood slower growth and ease the amount of buying. Slow and steady growth vs all buying, then a crash comes.

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i feel honored lol just read my post