The Mobi Flower Game

freeflow · 10-02-2010, 04:14 AM

How much will flowers.mobi be sold for?
The winner of the game is the one who
guesses the closest price.

My guess is:

$ 63.000

akcampbell · 10-02-2010, 06:02 AM

Flowers are a terrible product to sell from an alternative extension. They are not a generic product where the quality can be guaranteed and the customer will need alot of reassurance on quality before ordering because it's important to a particular relationship they have. They will only get that reassurance online by buying from a bricks and mortar website or an established online flower retailer which is bound to have .com domain.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/680120-the-mobi-flower-game.html

Buying flowers on a mobile phone doesn't make any sense, I have an HTC Desire handset, I carry it with me round the clock but I would never buy anything on it because I want to see big photos of what I'm buying, do some price comparison, maybe look at some reviews of the store, and I don't want the hassle of cranking through a long check out process with the delivery details and message as minimum and possibly my details and card details on top if its my first time using the site.

When I buy flowers when I am not at home or work, I go to Google.co.uk on my phone, I get the shop details up for the store I use near where a particular person lives, all I have to do is touch the phone number on the screen and the phone dials, I ask the shop what they have fresh in, maybe agree some colours and the price, read out my card details, recipient details, and message, and I am done. I have used the local flower shop before, I know I can rely on the quality and they are cheaper and better than networks like Inter Flora or big UK stores selling flowers as a sideline like Tesco or M&S.

The only .mobi site I use on my phone is a TV streaming site, I don't pay any subscription or give them my card details. That's the sort of site that is ideal for a .mobi. Other products that work are stock prices, maps, directories, price comparison sites, phone apps, mobile games, what's on guides, restaurant review sites, car park finders, anything where you can bring a page up instantly and it doesn't involve typing in personal details or handing over your credit card details.

With no back story, Flowers.mobi would sell for less than $5,000. With a $200,000 "miracle" sale in 2008, there is bound be some kind of rub with the auction so it wouldn't surprise me if it sold for a very big multiple of what it is actually worth.

doubleU · 10-02-2010, 06:54 AM

$99,000

Keith · 10-02-2010, 07:28 AM

12k

I disagree with akcampbell. New phones such as iphone4 and droid offer big screens with crystal clear display. Buying flowers or anything via mobile is not an issue and will become normal practice as we move forward!

Danto · 10-02-2010, 08:14 AM

$10,000

MrRhee · 10-02-2010, 08:42 AM

.

RUPERT · 10-02-2010, 08:51 AM

$7.5k

sdsinc · 10-02-2010, 09:20 AM

My uneducated guess: 16K

***mwzd*** · 10-02-2010, 10:47 AM

My totally off the cuff guess is that it sells around 200k, though the extension might actually vary that by a factor of 10.

Flowers is a huge cpc keyword and deserves some respect, even in .mobi

Toni · 10-02-2010, 10:52 AM

I say $200,001

And here is my rather serious guess: $2k

bmugford · 10-02-2010, 12:25 PM

Flowers is a monster keyword, even in a bad extension. With the story behind it I think it will sell for around $20K. I will put an official guess at $18,500.

I think without the history it would sell for Mid $X,XXX - Low $XX,XXX.

Brad

***johname*** · 10-02-2010, 03:12 PM

put me down for $28,385

freeflow · 10-02-2010, 03:37 PM

What does it mean for dotmobi if this domain is sold for a high or low price, from a domainer's perspective?

FathomJH · 10-02-2010, 05:44 PM

$36,000

defaultuser · 10-02-2010, 08:35 PM

$15K

Enough to make it not look like Pigeon Crap.. but enough to make RS look like he stepped in it.

labrocca · 10-11-2010, 09:20 PM

My guess is that the auction will be rigged and that it will sell for over $200k to an anonymous buyer. Just my personal guess and I have no intimate knowledge that this is fact.

Rick gets a lot of heat for this domain and I can't imagine why he's selling it knowing full well he'll likely get considerably less than what he paid. Anyone have a clue why he would sell this in the open market for what's sure to be a loss?

In case the auction is legit then I'd say $12,700.

scandiman · 10-11-2010, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by labrocca

Anyone have a clue why he would sell this in the open market for what's sure to be a loss?

See 2nd Q/A: http://idnblog.com/2009/11/11/rick-s...usive-idnblog/
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=680120

See first comment: http://domainshane.com/8-reasons-why...ain-at-a-loss/

labrocca · 10-11-2010, 10:21 PM

Quote:

I am a very patient person and with 1000 other new extensions coming to market, you could see a revival.

So not sure how a year later he's lost his patience.

Quote:

Q: What methods, and metrics do you use when buying domains? At this point is it mostly based on your “gut” instinct and awareness of potential end-users?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=680120

A: No metrics. Few give accurate stats even tho they have them so you MUST know so the ONLY tool I use is my gut.

That sums up his abilities. He goes with his "gut". In gambling we call that "luck".

evirtual1 · 10-12-2010, 04:19 AM

just for fun $15,350

labrocca · 10-12-2010, 01:24 PM

There was some speculation during the original flowers.mobi sale which also was sold at TRAFFIC in 2006. Why a guy who runs the auction has a chance to bid is beyond me? At the time there was rumors it was bid up by Flowers.com. Schwartz had ties to the mobi people as they paid him commission to sell premium mobi's at his TRAFFIC.

http://mtld.mobi/node/1135

mTLD used I believe 3 TRAFFIC's to auction "premium" mobi domains. The biggest seller was in fact the biggest buyer. And that's not suspicious?

Me personally..I think it stinks of corruption, upselling, and market manipulation.

Schwartz helped doom mobi by creating a boom so high that it was sure to bust. Flowers.mobi should have gone to flowers.com for proper usage and development. Now it's too late.

But because of this history I really believe there is a chance this domain will go for more than $200k as an attempt by some to raise mobi values or at the very least for Schwartz to save face. If this domains sells for less than $50k then everyone will be able to point forever to Flowers.mobi as the worst domain failure by our legendary "domain king". Ironic that Don King is going to be there.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=680120

A sale of less than even $100k will be contrary to many statements the Domain King has made about holding domains and their value being exponential. He's one of those strident domain holders that rarely sells and in the cases he has sold it's domains for high $xxx,xxx or in the millions.

So what is he up to?

sdsinc · 10-12-2010, 01:41 PM

You konw, he owns a lot of mediocre names too. So flowers.mobi was not his first bad domain. Also, the name was on Fusu back then, not sure if it still is. But he doesn't seem to believe in that name anymore.

carob · 10-12-2010, 03:23 PM

simple question - what are the highest mobi sales in the last year? Is any above $5k ? Maybe this is flowers for a funeral.

Keith · 10-12-2010, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by carob

simple question - what are the highest mobi sales in the last year? Is any above $5k ? Maybe this is flowers for a funeral.

Just over a year ago casino.mobi sold for $135k. There may have been 5 figure sales behind closed doors as well.

HeyNow · 10-12-2010, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by labrocca

My guess is that the auction will be rigged and that it will sell for over $200k to an anonymous buyer. Just my personal guess and I have no intimate knowledge that this is fact.

Rick gets a lot of heat for this domain and I can't imagine why he's selling it knowing full well he'll likely get considerably less than what he paid. Anyone have a clue why he would sell this in the open market for what's sure to be a loss?

In case the auction is legit then I'd say $12,700.

Despite the hype, attendance at domainer conventions ain't what it used to be. I'd say he needs the money. Huge egos suck up huge amounts of money. So if he figured the sit-on-your-ass and make money gravy train would last forever, then he probably spent money foolishly. What other reason could there be for selling something you paid $200k for in a down market where you'd be lucky to get one-tenth that amount now?

carob · 10-12-2010, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by keithmt

Just over a year ago casino.mobi sold for $135k. There may have been 5 figure sales behind closed doors as well.

Hi thanks for the info. Seems that was the second highest mobi sale ever, and it was direct from the registry, not aftermarket.

Found more info here
http://www.thedomains.com/2009/09/08...ells-for-135k/

Quote:

Moniker just announced that it has brokered the sale of Casino.mobi to Infomeda Ltd for $135,000.

This sale represents the second highest price ever paid for a .mobi name.

As you may recall, Flowers.mobi sold for $200K, Fun.mobi for $100K RealEstate.mobi for $85,000.

Certainly this is the highest priced paid for a .mobi since the extension’s initial release premium auctions held at TRAFFIC shows in 2007.

The resale market for .Mobi’s has been very quite, to say the least, almost non-existent, over the last year, making this sale even more surprising.

10-02-2010, 04:14 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
freeflow NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 236	The Mobi Flower Game How much will flowers.mobi be sold for? The winner of the game is the one who guesses the closest price. My guess is: $ 63.000

10-02-2010, 06:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
akcampbell .Pro Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,360	Flowers are a terrible product to sell from an alternative extension. They are not a generic product where the quality can be guaranteed and the customer will need alot of reassurance on quality before ordering because it's important to a particular relationship they have. They will only get that reassurance online by buying from a bricks and mortar website or an established online flower retailer which is bound to have .com domain. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/680120-the-mobi-flower-game.html Buying flowers on a mobile phone doesn't make any sense, I have an HTC Desire handset, I carry it with me round the clock but I would never buy anything on it because I want to see big photos of what I'm buying, do some price comparison, maybe look at some reviews of the store, and I don't want the hassle of cranking through a long check out process with the delivery details and message as minimum and possibly my details and card details on top if its my first time using the site. When I buy flowers when I am not at home or work, I go to Google.co.uk on my phone, I get the shop details up for the store I use near where a particular person lives, all I have to do is touch the phone number on the screen and the phone dials, I ask the shop what they have fresh in, maybe agree some colours and the price, read out my card details, recipient details, and message, and I am done. I have used the local flower shop before, I know I can rely on the quality and they are cheaper and better than networks like Inter Flora or big UK stores selling flowers as a sideline like Tesco or M&S. The only .mobi site I use on my phone is a TV streaming site, I don't pay any subscription or give them my card details. That's the sort of site that is ideal for a .mobi. Other products that work are stock prices, maps, directories, price comparison sites, phone apps, mobile games, what's on guides, restaurant review sites, car park finders, anything where you can bring a page up instantly and it doesn't involve typing in personal details or handing over your credit card details. With no back story, Flowers.mobi would sell for less than $5,000. With a $200,000 "miracle" sale in 2008, there is bound be some kind of rub with the auction so it wouldn't surprise me if it sold for a very big multiple of what it is actually worth. __________________ Rates.info and Prices.info currently at Sedo auction. No reserve price. Ends 24 May 2012.

10-02-2010, 08:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
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10-02-2010, 09:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
sdsinc Domains my Dominion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Web 1.0 Posts: 9,961	My uneducated guess: 16K __________________ NameNewsletter.com - free lists of available domain names ZoneFiles.net (beta) - ccTLD and gTLD droplists

10-02-2010, 10:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
*mwzd* Extension Agnostic Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,918 Follow @mwzd	My totally off the cuff guess is that it sells around 200k, though the extension might actually vary that by a factor of 10. Flowers is a huge cpc keyword and deserves some respect, even in .mobi __________________ Premium Domains for Sale \| Domain Broker \| Domain Consultant \| Domain Blog WebSite Development \| MiniSites

10-02-2010, 06:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
doubleU NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 324	$99,000

10-02-2010, 07:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
Keith Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: "D" town Posts: 3,617	12k I disagree with akcampbell. New phones such as iphone4 and droid offer big screens with crystal clear display. Buying flowers or anything via mobile is not an issue and will become normal practice as we move forward!

10-02-2010, 08:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
Danto NamePros Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 167	$10,000

10-02-2010, 08:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
RUPERT NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 901	$7.5k

10-02-2010, 10:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
Toni Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Right here! Posts: 3,915	I say $200,001 And here is my rather serious guess: $2k __________________ Free Facebook Fans, Free Twitter Followers, Earn Cash, check out: Click Fans - The Social Exchange Community

10-02-2010, 12:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
bmugford www.DataCube.com Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,838	Flowers is a monster keyword, even in a bad extension. With the story behind it I think it will sell for around $20K. I will put an official guess at $18,500. I think without the history it would sell for Mid $X,XXX - Low $XX,XXX. Brad __________________ DataCube.com - Buy and Sell Premium Domains

10-02-2010, 03:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
*johname* Business Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,519	put me down for $28,385

10-02-2010, 03:37 PM	THREAD STARTER #13 (permalink)
freeflow NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 236	What does it mean for dotmobi if this domain is sold for a high or low price, from a domainer's perspective?

10-02-2010, 05:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
FathomJH NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 413	$36,000

10-02-2010, 08:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
defaultuser Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: internet@ctivist.com Posts: 4,789	$15K Enough to make it not look like Pigeon Crap.. but enough to make RS look like he stepped in it. __________________ A Member of: IdeationTeam.com HowToBeADomainer.com - a Domaining How To AuthorEditor.com

10-12-2010, 04:19 AM	#19 (permalink)
evirtual1 NamePros Expert Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Rod.Tv Posts: 7,369	just for fun $15,350 __________________ Start your business with.... AllDogWalking.Com Business Information School Study Guide Blonde

10-11-2010, 09:20 PM	#16 (permalink)
labrocca NamePros Expert Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 6,268 Follow @supportforums	My guess is that the auction will be rigged and that it will sell for over $200k to an anonymous buyer. Just my personal guess and I have no intimate knowledge that this is fact. Rick gets a lot of heat for this domain and I can't imagine why he's selling it knowing full well he'll likely get considerably less than what he paid. Anyone have a clue why he would sell this in the open market for what's sure to be a loss? In case the auction is legit then I'd say $12,700. __________________ :$: Support Forum <-- My latest endeavor.:loveyou: Debate Forums Free Online Sudoku My vBum Blog

10-12-2010, 01:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
labrocca NamePros Expert Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 6,268 Follow @supportforums	There was some speculation during the original flowers.mobi sale which also was sold at TRAFFIC in 2006. Why a guy who runs the auction has a chance to bid is beyond me? At the time there was rumors it was bid up by Flowers.com. Schwartz had ties to the mobi people as they paid him commission to sell premium mobi's at his TRAFFIC. http://mtld.mobi/node/1135 mTLD used I believe 3 TRAFFIC's to auction "premium" mobi domains. The biggest seller was in fact the biggest buyer. And that's not suspicious? Me personally..I think it stinks of corruption, upselling, and market manipulation. Schwartz helped doom mobi by creating a boom so high that it was sure to bust. Flowers.mobi should have gone to flowers.com for proper usage and development. Now it's too late. But because of this history I really believe there is a chance this domain will go for more than $200k as an attempt by some to raise mobi values or at the very least for Schwartz to save face. If this domains sells for less than $50k then everyone will be able to point forever to Flowers.mobi as the worst domain failure by our legendary "domain king". Ironic that Don King is going to be there. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=680120 A sale of less than even $100k will be contrary to many statements the Domain King has made about holding domains and their value being exponential. He's one of those strident domain holders that rarely sells and in the cases he has sold it's domains for high $xxx,xxx or in the millions. So what is he up to? __________________ :$: Support Forum <-- My latest endeavor.:loveyou: Debate Forums Free Online Sudoku My vBum Blog

10-12-2010, 01:41 PM	#21 (permalink)
sdsinc Domains my Dominion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Web 1.0 Posts: 9,961	You konw, he owns a lot of mediocre names too. So flowers.mobi was not his first bad domain. Also, the name was on Fusu back then, not sure if it still is. But he doesn't seem to believe in that name anymore. __________________ NameNewsletter.com - free lists of available domain names ZoneFiles.net (beta) - ccTLD and gTLD droplists

10-12-2010, 03:23 PM	#22 (permalink)
carob NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 544	simple question - what are the highest mobi sales in the last year? Is any above $5k ? Maybe this is flowers for a funeral.

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